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Well I take some of it back.

Have laid them on their side and they gurgle and spout warm juice straight into my mouth. Leave em vertical and the Pg juice leaks completely overnight.

ego-c looking better long term wise again.

Anyone know how the hell to keep these things with juice still in overnight without getting the gargling or the juice draining out - please let me know otherwise another failed vape experiment and back to the ego-c and PG only juices.
 

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Oh and went to refill the Vg one and the wicking material was a geletanous mess and just fell right out off the atty.

I'm not putting up with that for almost a fiver for a tank full of juice.

Back to ego c for clear and pg juice and dripping and likely dual coil cartos for others.

These perform well at first but then -OH THE DISSAPOINTMENT. Especially so as I'm not the kind of guy to rebuilk ad buy new wick etc.

These have been like a girl that gives you amazing sex for a night and then turns out to be a whackjob.

No longer impressed and back to ego-c and just avoiding dark vg juices.

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Weird.....

I'd say *maybe* you got a faulty batch? Mine will occasionally be gargly after lying all night, but I just take the head off, blow it out and dab it with a paper towel and it works totally fine after. (Also take a q-tip to the middle chamber so that I don't inhale any of the juice into my mouth.) None of mine are leaking out.

(Also never had the wicks fall out.)

I'm sorry to hear you're having issues. : /
 

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Well I take some of it back.

Have laid them on their side and they gurgle and spout warm juice straight into my mouth. Leave em vertical and the Pg juice leaks completely overnight.

ego-c looking better long term wise again.

Anyone know how the hell to keep these things with juice still in overnight without getting the gargling or the juice draining out - please let me know otherwise another failed vape experiment and back to the ego-c and PG only juices.

I would suggest turning them upside down.. K.I.S.S.
Since it's a bottom coil, this is what I would do if I left one in a vehicle.. Same as my MT3S...

As I just got some evods yesterday, I've been running around like WOW... I like the draw, much stiffer than my MT3S..

Thinking the shorter, slightly wider tube on the evod heads is the difference!.. Just put one into one of my MT3's and that stiffened it up just right..
 

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Well I take some of it back.

Have laid them on their side and they gurgle and spout warm juice straight into my mouth. Leave em vertical and the Pg juice leaks completely overnight.

ego-c looking better long term wise again.

Anyone know how the hell to keep these things with juice still in overnight without getting the gargling or the juice draining out - please let me know otherwise another failed vape experiment and back to the ego-c and PG only juices.

I have four EVODs and two MT3's and have never had a leaking problem with any of them. One thing to be careful of--especially if you switch tanks often--is to make sure the head is screwed down tight and not cross-threaded. I have mistakenly tried to unscrew an EVOD and instead of removing it from the battery, I pulled the open tank off of the head and...
 

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Well cigs for all their health hassles do what you expect, pull it out, light it and it works every time.

I'm not going back to these high maintenance, good for a while and then now devices.

I have used 2 things that work - ego-t and ego XL cartos (now replaced by xl dual coil cartos) and they both worked great.

Sod ego-c and their weak attys and sod BCC clearo tanks and their maintenance issues, re-wiking, rebuilding etc.

I'm gonna cane my ego-c attys until they're dead and then buy cheaper and still available ego-t attys and Xl cartos.

The ego-t lasted me over 6 months each with no hassle just by boiling and drying for a day. The xl carsos worked a cxharm and could be refilled and re-used many times.

I'm keeping it simple instead of hi-tech.

I want to fill a tank or carto, vape it and refill it when done. So far ego-c does this with clear PG and the xl cartos were amazing.

Bugfger this new high maintenance stuff, I'm not a hobbyist, I want to pick up, vape and go.

Beware leakage, wicks falling out with EVODS and that's all I have to say. Tried the ovale cyclo / ego w too and weak, weak, weak.

ego-t and Xl refillable by syringe cartos - Old school and low maintenance and value for money.

I came, I tried the flashy new gear and I'm going back to the basics.
 

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I have been enjoying my new MT3S from Kanger since I mugged the mailman yesterday afternoon. I love the vape. Flavor is better than the evod? I can't see any reason that would be true, but there ya go! The draw is a bit "stiffer" or harder and I really like that. In fact, that is the only real issue I have with my Pro Tank: I don't like the airy draw. Waiting on an air flow regulator to arrive today, if the mailman is still willing to stop at my house. May have to hide behind a bush until he leaves!:laugh:

Clouds of vapor, great taste and that wee little bit of additional juice capacity is noticeable. I am using the coil that came installed in the MT3S. 2.5 ohm I think. Maybe I should use the 2.5 in my evods as well. Time will tell.

I really have enjoyed everything from Kanger. I only wish I could get my TW RB1 rebuildable to work. I love the look! More hardware coming with the regulator: VV pass-through as well and some juice (of course) from Madvapes.

I too find that my MT3 gives me a bigger and better vape. The Evod must be the new band wagon right now. I'm sure most jumping up and down about the Evod haven't tried the MT3 yet.


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Those that get leaking out the bottom, here is what I was doing wrong when this happened. I would unscrew the bottom from the tank. The silicon seal on the posts would grip the drip tube in the tank and loosen up the coil in the base. So make sure the grab the coil and check that it is still screwed down tightly in the base before putting it back together or it will leak out of the bottom.


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Other than capacity, I don't know the difference between MT3 and evod, so hopefully someone can clear that up for me. I thought I was buying an evod yesterday and apparently got the MT3. After hearing so much on here about how great evod and bottom feeds are I decided to try it out.

This MT3 is great on vapor thickness. I would have guessed that would translate to flavor, but I am wrong. Over an hour I switched between my CE5 with my own coil/wick build and the same flavor. The CE5 blew the MT3 away. This may be because I have already spent the time learning to make sure my CE5 doesn't leak, gurgle or give dry hits and haven't played around with the MT3 yet. This morning I did the same test with a different flavor, same result. Both flavors were fruits.

As far as issues of gurgling, leaking and other of this nature, I haven't seen it with the MT3. It is definitely more user friendly than the generic CE5's I have been using.

So I am now left with a few questions. Could it be flavors other than fruit are what people are claiming are stronger in evod/MT3? Is my experience with the MT3 going to translate other bottom feeds? Is the stock wick on the MT3 just not good at delivering flavor or is it my taste buds work better on warmer vape than the MT3 is delivering?
 

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Sorry you had such a bad experience with your Evods Hotwire. All of my DIY juice is 50/50. I couldn't be happier with the dependability of my evods. I rotate between 4 of them and have not had a moments trouble with them. Doesn't matter if they are laying down or standing up. Not a single leak. Seems like I do remember a tiny bit of gurgling when they were new. My first 2 have been going strong for over a month. The other 2 about 2 1/2 weeks. I check to make sure all parts are tightened down each time I refill. I also keep a pipe cleaner handy and run it through the center tube after filling and before screwing the bottom back on. I am sure I would get a bit of juice in my mouth if I skipped this last step.

Hope this helps you and others that might be experiencing the same problems you are having.
 

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Other than capacity, I don't know the difference between MT3 and evod, so hopefully someone can clear that up for me. I thought I was buying an evod yesterday and apparently got the MT3. After hearing so much on here about how great evod and bottom feeds are I decided to try it out.

There are two versions of the MT3. There is the original MT3 and the MT3S, which is a later version. The difference is solely with the head/coil assembly. The MT3 has a head and coil that cannot be taken apart. You either rebuild the atomizer or replace the head/coil with a new one. The MT3S has a detachable atomizer that is identical that in the EVOD. As far as capacity goes, that's the primary difference between the EVOD and the MT3S. The difference between the EVOD and the original MT3 is that the atomizers are not interchangeable.

You can get an "upgrade" converter that changes the MT3 to the MT3S from Mt. Baker and other dealers.

This MT3 is great on vapor thickness. I would have guessed that would translate to flavor, but I am wrong. Over an hour I switched between my CE5 with my own coil/wick build and the same flavor. The CE5 blew the MT3 away. This may be because I have already spent the time learning to make sure my CE5 doesn't leak, gurgle or give dry hits and haven't played around with the MT3 yet. This morning I did the same test with a different flavor, same result. Both flavors were fruits.

There is a difference in the warmness of the vapor between a top coil and a bottom coil system. Top is usually warmer, bottom is usually cooler. There may also be some differences in the resistance of the atomizers in the two systems. Unless you're absolutely sure that both atomizers are the same resistance, it's hard to make an accurate comparison. And even with stated resistance levels, most atomizers have some variance.


So I am now left with a few questions. Could it be flavors other than fruit are what people are claiming are stronger in evod/MT3? Is my experience with the MT3 going to translate other bottom feeds? Is the stock wick on the MT3 just not good at delivering flavor or is it my taste buds work better on warmer vape than the MT3 is delivering?

Could be a combination of both. One thing I've done with the MT3 atomizer is remove the shaft and silicone washer and thread a small piece of silica (or cotton braid wick) into the slots atop the coil/wick wrap. Replace washer and shaft, and see if the improved wicking doesn't improve performance. Before converting my MT3's to MT3S's, it made a difference.
 

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From OMG Perfection
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in under 24hrs.

Shows a total lack of patients and disregard for learning what may be wrong and how to best use equipment.

Yep, sounds like you got a poorly assembled coil. It can happen. So Down the entire Evod design and run back to the Cave.
Fire bad, fire bad, burn Ogg. LOL

Kanger uses straight silica material as Flavor wicks. Not my first choice, but functional. To easy to accidentally pull the flavor wicking out and start flooding.

Easily fixed for cheap and longer lasting results with twisted 1mm silica or cotton.
Using thin juices - Store Filled Bottom coil Tanks upside down.

Cost to replace head is far less than Buying a new tank - cost to rebuild is far less than replacing.
I purchased 2 Evods
Got 10 heads @ $ .49
Enough material to rebuild for a life time. $10

I also have EGO-t and with anything thicker than Dekang PG(iss water) They are worthless. Would rather suffer a slight cost increase than Vape in misery.
 

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Couldn't have said it better crxess.....

If you're not mechanically inclined and want something without a fiddle factor, I don't think there's much out there that doesn't require some type of adjustments from time to time.

I'm using a knock off version and they work just fine, no leaks, no dry/burnt hits......I did do some research ahead of time and know how to re-wick and when things trailed off I went to work.
 

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I started rebuilding all my EVOD heads several weeks ago. Easy as can be if you have a meter or mod to check resistance. I use 2mm silica wick with 32awg kanthal wire, I dumped the flavor wicks since I use 80% or greater VG, and build to 1.9 to 2.2ohm. EVODs are easy on so many levels. Are they the end all, be all? No but they are a great little delivery system.
 

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There are two versions of the MT3. There is the original MT3 and the MT3S, which is a later version. The difference is solely with the head/coil assembly. The MT3 has a head and coil that cannot be taken apart. You either rebuild the atomizer or replace the head/coil with a new one. The MT3S has a detachable atomizer that is identical that in the EVOD. As far as capacity goes, that's the primary difference between the EVOD and the MT3S. The difference between the EVOD and the original MT3 is that the atomizers are not interchangeable.

You can get an "upgrade" converter that changes the MT3 to the MT3S from Mt. Baker and other dealers.



There is a difference in the warmness of the vapor between a top coil and a bottom coil system. Top is usually warmer, bottom is usually cooler. There may also be some differences in the resistance of the atomizers in the two systems. Unless you're absolutely sure that both atomizers are the same resistance, it's hard to make an accurate comparison. And even with stated resistance levels, most atomizers have some variance.




Could be a combination of both. One thing I've done with the MT3 atomizer is remove the shaft and silicone washer and thread a small piece of silica (or cotton braid wick) into the slots atop the coil/wick wrap. Replace washer and shaft, and see if the improved wicking doesn't improve performance. Before converting my MT3's to MT3S's, it made a difference.

Okay, so I have the MT3S. I will not buy something I can't rebuild so I made sure it could be done.

The MT3S is 2.6 ohm and the CE5 is 2.4. Yesterday it was a standard old ego and just a short while ago tried variable voltage but it's the click 5 times for 3 different settings. Highest setting on CE5 has very slight drop off on flavor but boosts the MT3S. The middle setting on the CE5 is the strongest flavor out of all settings.

That last portion - I will try all that the next time I order stuff online. I bought this one at Vape-a-palooza in Atlanta. I tried a lot of equipment using a condom there but unfortunately I could try different delivery devices with my own juice. That would have told me a lot.

One thing I also saw there (with an mpv) is the difference in voltage at tenths of a volt is there but doesn't become all that distinct until about .3v adjustments for my taste buds.
 

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I started rebuilding all my EVOD heads several weeks ago. Easy as can be if you have a meter or mod to check resistance. I use 2mm silica wick with 32awg kanthal wire, I dumped the flavor wicks since I use 80% or greater VG, and build to 1.9 to 2.2ohm. EVODs are easy on so many levels. Are they the end all, be all? No but they are a great little delivery system.

Okay, so I have the MT3S. I will not buy something I can't rebuild so I made sure it could be done.

I still don't get the logic of rebuilding something that costs about $2 to replace. I don't mean to be flippant or dismissive. I just can't fathom spending the time when the price of tossing and replacing is so cheap. crxess found evod heads two for a dollar.

Y'all help me understand. Is it just because you can? :)
 

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Just got two in the mail.

Man oh man.

I have this really dark Ovale Virginia tobacco 50vg/50pg juice that is like syrup and couldn't get more than a few draws off my ego-c attys before it got all wispy and burn tasting and the attys needed cleaning.

Just water cleaned the EVOD tank (not the atty, it was dry, no primer,) filled this thing up with the rest of that juice and Rodger me five ways from Sunday - what a vape!

The vape is mellow compared to an ago-t / ego-c but man there is more of it and the flavor rocks. The flavor is, what can I say - just 'more there.'

Since filling and vaping about 20 draws have not had one bad hit yet, it's a damned pro this thing.

QUESTION - leave the ego with EVOD standing upright so no juice gets in the central tube of the tank or can these be left on their side (I'm thinking not, at least with my DEKANG 100% pg juices....?) What about when take of the EVOD with juice still in - leave upright or on side?

So far color me bloody well impressed. Gonna fill the second up with Dekang Camel and see how that goes...!





You are referring to the EVOD BCC, right?

I LOVE it. I recommend it to ALL new vapers.

An eGo Twist battery , combined with an EVOD BCC, is a perfect e-cig for new comers, and advanced vapers a like.
 

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Those that get leaking out the bottom, here is what I was doing wrong when this happened. I would unscrew the bottom from the tank. The silicon seal on the posts would grip the drip tube in the tank and loosen up the coil in the base. So make sure the grab the coil and check that it is still screwed down tightly in the base before putting it back together or it will leak out of the bottom.


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I have 3 evods and have liked using them on my Itaste. They work great and I can lay my Itaste down and they have never leaked. I have one that's laid on its side all night and works fine. I did notice a spell of the head loosening when I would open them and refill them, which caused me to not be able to screw the bottom back on good and leaking through the head. Now I just make sure the head is on snug after refilling them and no problems ever since!
 
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