Just for the heck of it I removed the stock silica wick and flavor wicks from a new EVOD and installed some USP cotton in their place. Unbelievable vapor but very little flavor! Can someone explain how increasing the level of vapor results in less flavor? It is wicking great - no dry hits at all. Played with voltage but it did not help with flavor. Any ideas?
Evod with cotton - where's the flavor?
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Numerous people here will disagree with me but I've done the cotton thing. All kinds of cotton using all the recommended methods. The results are that I'm still using silica wicks. In fact I'm done playing around with rewinding coils and all the rest. I just buy the very inexpensively priced genuine (vs generic) replacement coil/wick assemblies for my delivery devices and spend my spare time on other pursuits. I continue to enjoy vaping but I'm over the hobby phase.
Maybe the type of cotton?? I'm not sure, but I use organic cotton from CVS and get terrific flavor and clouds.
I wouldn't sweat it. There are lots of folks who use cotton as flavor wicks and swear by it, and there are others who find that it just doesn't work out for them.
Cotton as the main wick works out real great for me, BUT, not as flavor wicks. Maybe it's the type of cotton I'm using, maybe it's the way I'm laying the cotton, maybe it's the amount of cotton. It just didn't suit me. So don't worry, you're not the only one.
However, I would probably try them as flavor wicks after another couple of month. Simply because I may have changed my way of setting up my coils or the way I'm drawing, and it may then work great.
Cotton as the main wick works out real great for me, BUT, not as flavor wicks. Maybe it's the type of cotton I'm using, maybe it's the way I'm laying the cotton, maybe it's the amount of cotton. It just didn't suit me. So don't worry, you're not the only one.
However, I would probably try them as flavor wicks after another couple of month. Simply because I may have changed my way of setting up my coils or the way I'm drawing, and it may then work great.
Gone back to simpler times eh? Don't blame you. You can invest so much time in this thing that when the results (are often) less than spectacular, compared to factory products, you just have to start reassessing the process, and whether you even want to invest the time.
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To the OP... Cotton can be tricky when you start out using it. First and foremost, cotton swells quite a bit when wet, so what fit in the coil nicely to start, now may be too tight - choking off juice delivery and in some cases effecting the actual consistency of juice vaporization.
- Rather than yank off chunks - you can "unroll" the cotton ball to find a, far easier to work with, flat "sheet" of cotton.
- Don't compress cotton too much when you make your wick... use less cotton to start, and only lightly compressed.
- A very light drag when you pull it through is all you need.
- Sometimes... too little is better than, what you think is, "just right"
- The capillary and retentive properties of cotton are not the same as silica. Because of the amount of liquid retained and supplied, you will find that what ever voltage or wattage setting you were using on an APV for a pre-made coil/silica wick... will be too much, or too little (narrowed that right down for ya'... didn't I?
) for cotton... depending on how you made the wick and other variables. You need to experiment... and I always start a bit lower at first.
If you want flavor then try a dripper. I did and have only picked up my Mini Protanks to empty them as well as my evod, my aspire, my smoktach aro pyrex and a couple of vivi nova minis. Really They are setting unused in a cabinet and are about to soon go up for sale as I REALLY don't even want to use them. Flavor is where it's at for me and dripping was the only thing that delivered, and it delivered in spades.
Another factor re: cotton you might want to consider is that it often has a "breaking in" period to get full flavor.
I find I need to go through .5ml or so before I get full saturation, and therefore "full" taste, YMMV, obvz.
Hope this helps
I find I need to go through .5ml or so before I get full saturation, and therefore "full" taste, YMMV, obvz.
Hope this helps
Its always too much cotton or the wrong type you want long rigid strands not factory smoothed until mega soft and then they just muffle the flavor. I dislike cotton but using high watts it is a needed wick if I want to use ss mesh in hybrid form. Organic cotton has longer strands and is stiffer which allows more air thru it. USP cotton is no good it doesn't have strands that are long at all they are very short only mm's long . the best cotton is on dollar store qtips IMO.
Get A Reo & RM2 RBA. Problem fixed. Greta flavor & vapor production.
Just my 2 cents.
louis
Just my 2 cents.
louis
I have been experimenting with various rebuilds in my Davide. I found using only cotton, no matter what kind or preparation method, left me with a slightly muted flavor vs. Silica. My best compromise is boiled organic cotton inside a 12 wrap micro coil, with some silica wicking on top of the coil to prevent flooding. That gave me back some flavor over cotton for both wicks.
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Gone back to simpler times eh? Don't blame you. You can invest so much time in this thing that when the results (are often) less than spectacular, compared to factory products, you just have to start reassessing the process, and whether you even want to invest the time.
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To the OP... Cotton can be tricky when you start out using it. First and foremost, cotton swells quite a bit when wet, so what fit in the coil nicely to start, now may be too tight - choking off juice delivery and in some cases effecting the actual consistency of juice vaporization.
- Rather than yank off chunks - you can "unroll" the cotton ball to find a, far easier to work with, flat "sheet" of cotton.
- Don't compress cotton too much when you make your wick... use less cotton to start, and only lightly compressed.
- A very light drag when you pull it through is all you need.
- Sometimes... too little is better than, what you think is, "just right"
- The capillary and retentive properties of cotton are not the same as silica. Because of the amount of liquid retained and supplied, you will find that what ever voltage or wattage setting you were using on an APV for a pre-made coil/silica wick... will be too much, or too little (narrowed that right down for ya'... didn't I?
) for cotton... depending on how you made the wick and other variables. You need to experiment... and I always start a bit lower at first.
this is absolutely fantastic advice. with the right amount of cotton and pre-soaking your wick with a little juice, one can make a cotton wick hit like a freight train with enormous flavor on the first toot if one were so inclined. i am personally so inclined and loving it. sterile cotton balls from cvs unrolled are a thing of beauty in the eye of this beer holder.
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