What will you use this computer for?
What other hardware have you already decided on?
What is your budget range?
What will you use this computer for?
What other hardware have you already decided on?
What is your budget range?
No wonder UPS takes so long sometimes.
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I've got a piece of mail from Russia that's been sitting in ISC, New York, since March 10. They just keep pushing the "expected delivery dat" back further and further.
It did, It got to GSO last Thursday, I just showed when it left GSO. Most of the time they send it from GSO to Danville, which makes sense. This time they went around their elbow to get to their knee, and drove right past my house in the process..count your blessings! greensboro has been known to hold on to mail for days!
For those of you's who don't read other threads on the board, I will post this here to.
The Pharaoh came today! I built it totally different than I would have built any other rta.
I think the clamp style was made for this kind of coil.
Now I'm not going to go off & say it works better than my Supremes, But it is in Single coil mode, Well this single coil has 5 times as much wire, But still a single coil
First Impressions are pretty darn good
Your Pharoah looks a lot different than my Pharoah...don't tell me they came out with a design change right after I bought mine!
I tried single-coil mode, using some kind of complicated Clapton, but couldn't get TC to work with it. I'm actually running dual fused Claptons in mine now and TC works well after setting pre-heat as low as possible. I was having trouble with insufficient wicking (both ReadyXWick and Japanese cotton strips), but when I switched to Scottish rolled cotton wicks, it turned into a frackin cloud BEAST; sometimes I feel like I'm drinkin e-juice straight from the bottle!
I'm also loving dual fused Claptons in my 'Mizer Supreme Light and am loving it. Gotta refill the tank everyday, but it's not a nuisance since I do it while waiting for the coffee to brew.
Do you have the Dripper? Cause mine is the Pharaoh Tank
There are 2 now RDA & RTA
I tried a few fancy coil builds & IMO, a waste of time! I settled in to my same space single Ti coil
I know Mike hates RT But dam! this tank rocks the single coil!
You can get one for less than 30 bucks @ CVapor
BTW PP cleared my payment in 24 hours
In the states vapnw sells them for around the same price
Do you have the Dripper? Cause mine is the Pharaoh Tank
There are 2 now RDA & RTA
I tried a few fancy coil builds & IMO, a waste of time! I settled in to my same space single Ti coil
I know Mike hates RT But dam! this tank rocks the single coil!
You can get one for less than 30 bucks @ CVapor
BTW PP cleared my payment in 24 hours
In the states vapnw sells them for around the same price
Ahhhh, no wonder! The Pharaoh Dripper is a bit of a pain to actually drip into because you have to remove the drip tip and tilt it to the side; good thing the open reservoir holds a LOT of juice! I think if I got a Pharaoh Tank, I'd be refilling it more than once per day.
Ahhhh, no wonder! The Pharaoh Dripper is a bit of a pain to actually drip into because you have to remove the drip tip and tilt it to the side; good thing the open reservoir holds a LOT of juice! I think if I got a Pharaoh Tank, I'd be refilling it more than once per day.
I have seen YT reviews saying it's hard to drip in. The deck is really nice thou
All most the same as the Pharaoh RTA deck, Witch has 4 other deck options.
The tank use's more juice than I have ever seen a single coil go through.
IMO it's an amazing single coil tank! I got the #2 deck (Dual Coil) just to try it.
In dual coil mode it works as good as the Supreme's, but in single coil mode is were it really shines
I have seen YT reviews saying it's hard to drip in. The deck is really nice thou
All most the same as the Pharaoh RTA deck, Witch has 4 other deck options.
The tank use's more juice than I have ever seen a single coil go through.
IMO it's an amazing single coil tank! I got the #2 deck (Dual Coil) just to try it.
In dual coil mode it works as good as the Supreme's, but in single coil mode is were it really shines
One of the times I tried a single (non-spaced, no TC) coil, I about passed out from all the vapor it produced...I had to just sit motionless in the haze for a couple of minutes.
I'd like to stay under or around 100ish. I don't care about aesthetics, color, LEDs, or anything like that just functionality.
Here is the build so far with more details below:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System DEBIAN
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $362.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 19:35 EDT-0400
Note: The case is not 100% but after looking through a ton of them its one of the top contenders as well as the Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower #phes614pcbk
I have pretty simple needs. I don't run anything too intense or intense at all really. Pretty much just IRC, DC++, Newsgroups, a torrent client, VLC, simple music player, and web browsing. I use a lot of storage space but that's about it; nothing demanding at all. I don't play games much and when I do they easily run on even old computers and I really have no need for a GPU right now.
I already have all the HDDs listed and the optical drive is being cannibalized from another system. SSD will just be for my OS and the few programs I run. I went with this CPU because from what I understand it will be just fine for my needs right now.
What I am hoping to accomplish here is to build a PC that will be fine for me for the foreseeable future but that can be easily upgraded later if needed/desired. Swap out the G4560 CPU for an i5 or i7 or something like that down the road, add a GPU, and maybe some more RAM if its needed without having to buy a new everything else.
I will probably never play the latest and greatest games or super demanding software and if/when upgrading down the road it still wouldn't be anything too crazy. I don't really need to have 10k, 8000FPS, run at the absolute highest settings, use demanding software, or care much about overclocking(It doesn't need to have the ability but no big deal if it does I'll either use it or I wont and doesn't matter much to me wither way.) I'm just looking for room to grow a little bit down the road and maybe play something like Dark Souls 1. That's another reason I went with the G4560. It uses the same LGA1151 socket as the more premium i3, i5, and i7s.
Which brings us to motherboards and where I am having trouble figuring out what to get. Its mostly the connectors that are tripping me up and figuring out what I need and don't need as far as connectors go and what connects to the mobo and what connects to the PSU.
I know I need at least 6 Sata ports (1xSSD, 1XOptical, 4XHDD) on the motherboard. Something with a LGA1151 socket, a HDMI port, LAN, speaker ports, and of course USB ports, ideally ~6 or so, as well as at least 1xUSB3.0 and 1xUSB2.0 headers but more is fine. Ideally 4 DDR4 RAM slots. Probably looking at ATX since they seem to have more room for things which seems like it would have more features but also having more room to work on and be easier to manage.
Fans are kind of tripping me up; I know I'd like at least 2 sys fan/chassis fan headers since the cases I am looking at have at least that, average being about two, but from what I understand I may need to add more in the future if I upgrade because it will generate more heat and need more airflow and I don't think its advisable to use a couple of fan splitters to turn one Sys Fan into 3 but I might be wrong because I didn't realize that a singe front panel USB header on the motherboard can actually power two USBs on the case until recently. It also looks like some case fans use molex connectors(don't know if those are a PSU thing, a Mobo thing, or both) and others use the system fan pins and it looks like some fans use 4 pin and some 3 pin. Also unsure if fans need to be connected to the PSU or if they just draw power from the motherboard. I don't think you can just connect fans straight to the PSU but I could easily be wrong.
There also seems to be a few different types of PCIe/PCI slots and they come in different amounts and sizes. How many of each kind do I need to give me room to grow? I'm just not sure what all is and isn't needed for someone like me since most builds I see are super gaming SLI/Crossfire builds, video/photo editing, or number crunching computers and they have a lot more requirements than I do. I was thinking 1-2 of the 16s, 2-3 of the small PCIe, and maybe 1-2 of the PCI so I have options available if I need them but I'm really not sure on this part. There are so many different ports and headers(COM, TPM, Chassis Intrusion, etc, etc) that I don't know if I need or not and its made it very confusing as well as all the minor differences in things like audio (Realtec Alc887 vs ALC892 vs others) LAN (Intel I219-V vs all the other kinds) Video, etc.
As far as LEDs go where do they connect to like in the case of a LED fan and is there a way to run the fan without the LEDs running? A couple of cases I've looked at I really liked but had a bunch of LEDs which I don't care anything about.
I have also seen that some cases come with an SD card reader. I know the case fans connect to the sys fan header, the usb to the usb headers, the front audio to the front audio but how does the SD card reader connect? Do I need a special part on my motherboard to accommodate something like that? I've also noticed that, in the case of the GA-B250M-DS3H and others, that it has 1 usb 3.0 header and 2 USB 2.0 headers which is like 2 usb 3.0 and 4 usb 2.0 for the case since each can support two but I haven't seen any case with more than 4 total USB ports on the front. So is there something else that connects to the USB headers that I don't know about?
So basically something that can accommodate my needs right now as well as something I can grow into in the future by way of adding more SATA ports via a card, maybe adding a GPU, additional fans, swapping out the CPU, things like that.
I would look at the Z270 chipset motherboards.
examples:
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-PRIME-Z...=1491870469&sr=1-1&keywords=LGA1151+z270&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Mothe...&qid=1491870469&sr=1-14&keywords=LGA1151+z270
Dont get hung up on fans, any modern MB will support whatever you need. If you dont like LEDs, just get fans without them.
PCI(e) slots are for expansions like RAID controllers, GPUs, TV Tuners, etc, doesnt sound like they are a driving factor for you.
SD card readers are an easy upgrade, and there are plenty available. Dont concern yourself with it when shopping for a MB. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K0RPTN0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
examples:
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-PRIME-Z...=1491870469&sr=1-1&keywords=LGA1151+z270&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Mothe...&qid=1491870469&sr=1-14&keywords=LGA1151+z270
Dont get hung up on fans, any modern MB will support whatever you need. If you dont like LEDs, just get fans without them.
PCI(e) slots are for expansions like RAID controllers, GPUs, TV Tuners, etc, doesnt sound like they are a driving factor for you.
SD card readers are an easy upgrade, and there are plenty available. Dont concern yourself with it when shopping for a MB. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K0RPTN0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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What do you think about these:
MSI Z270 PC MATE LGA 1151 Intel Z270 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Motherboards - Intel-Newegg.com
GIGABYTE GA-Z270-HD3P (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151 Intel Z270 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Motherboards - Intel-Newegg.com
I was also looking at this earlier but its not a Z270: GIGABYTE GA-B250-HD3 (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151 Intel B250 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Motherboards - Intel - Newegg.com
Also what is the difference in a Z270 and a Z170? Just a newer model? I've noticed most of the chipsets either have a B, Z, or H and then either start with a 1 or a 2.
Yeah, I thought about doing some kind of RAID setup with the 4 WD reds but I'm still not sure what I want to do there. I'll probably leave it as is for now.
I will probably end up using one of the PCI(e) slots for more Sata ports to support more HDDs down the road(you'd be surprised how fast I can go through 16tb even without mirroring or parity) and might get a GPU at some point if I decide I want to play something a bit more demanding but that is about it.
MSI Z270 PC MATE LGA 1151 Intel Z270 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Motherboards - Intel-Newegg.com
GIGABYTE GA-Z270-HD3P (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151 Intel Z270 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Motherboards - Intel-Newegg.com
I was also looking at this earlier but its not a Z270: GIGABYTE GA-B250-HD3 (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151 Intel B250 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Motherboards - Intel - Newegg.com
Also what is the difference in a Z270 and a Z170? Just a newer model? I've noticed most of the chipsets either have a B, Z, or H and then either start with a 1 or a 2.
Yeah, I thought about doing some kind of RAID setup with the 4 WD reds but I'm still not sure what I want to do there. I'll probably leave it as is for now.
I will probably end up using one of the PCI(e) slots for more Sata ports to support more HDDs down the road(you'd be surprised how fast I can go through 16tb even without mirroring or parity) and might get a GPU at some point if I decide I want to play something a bit more demanding but that is about it.
For me I would go with one of the first 2 you listed, they both have more USB 3.x port headers. I like the MSI myself.
The Z270 has a few more PCI-E lanes and also supports OPTANE (faster than SSD).
Z270 vs Z170: What is the Difference?
Sounds like you do a lot of movie storage. If you outgrow 16TB then you might consider a NAS appliance.
So When does an offer like this come along?
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