Evolv-ing Thread

[SlickWilly]

the only time it would bother me if those antics would be repeated in international games, i.e. olympics. i attended plenty of domestic soccer games with my dad and by now y'all should know how crazy those fans can get and not once was a flag raised ................

ask your wife, willy! no flags in the classroom in germany!

What's Germany have to do with it? She like's the new lit flag pole we put up as much as I do, the flag flies 24/7. She came here legally, became a citizen and is proud to be an American. Maybe the left should move there.

When I look at that flag I think of all those that served, many who gave it all for us to be free, I'm damn proud of the flag, I put that flag up for them, not for me. I have one folded, framed and hanging above me as I sit here, it flew at Camp Phoenix in Kabul, Afghanistan on the 4th of July, 2008. I also have the flag my father use to fly every day before he passed. If your trying to get me to take a different view on the flag and what it means, ain't gonna happen.

 

[MadOzodi]

I know I'm out of the loop on many a thing...

But who the *bleep* are Joe & Mika and why the *bleep* should I care?

The only tv-related announcers/hosts I care about are Steve Matchett, Will Buxton, and David Hobbs (to a noticeably lesser degree). The fact that ESPN is not retaining them now that they've picked up Formula 1 really irks me something fierce.

I could care less about Leigh Diffey; he should never have replaced Bob Varsha...

 

[tiburonfirst]

If your trying to get me to take a different view on the flag and what it means, ain't gonna happen.

never, willy! and i hope you can fly the flag for many more years at your house!
but i still don't understand what the flag has to do with football

 

[SlickWilly]

 

[SlickWilly]

never, willy! and i hope you can fly the flag for many more years at your house!
but i still don't understand what the flag has to do with football

It's a tradition, a way of showing patriotism, being thankful for and showing the love for the country we live in, paying respect and honor for all those who are and have served so we can be free. At least that's what it's always been in my life and everyone that I know. Things we were taught by our parents and in school.

 

[Rossum]

no flags in the classroom in germany!

Germany was still an occupied country back then, and the occupying powers discouraged displays of German nationalism.

 

[awsum140]

The flag has as much to do with football as it does with baseball. It has become a tradition for both sports. If it's not a tradition, or common practice, in soccer here maybe it should be and adopting that tradition might actually increase the popularity of major league soccer. Why has it become so "fashionable" to bash traditions, especially patriotic ones? Personally, I see it as a moment to reflect on how lucky we are to live in the United States and to remember all those who have sacrificed, in so many ways, for us to even be able to discuss this freely and openly. If you don't want to participate in that tradition, it's your choice, I guess.

 

[tiburonfirst]

Germany was still an occupied country back then, and the occupying powers discouraged displays of German nationalism.

excuuuuuuuuuuuse me!

''On this day in History, Allies end occupation of West Germany on May 05, 1955.''

i'm old enough as it is! please, don't add!

 

[SlickWilly]

Germany was still an occupied country back then, and the occupying powers discouraged displays of German nationalism.

Hmmm..... discouraged displays of nationalism, that's a familiar agenda....

 

[tiburonfirst]

Hmmm..... discouraged displays of nationalism, that's a familiar agenda....

since i trust rossum's grasp of history (but not my age ) it's noteworthy that this 'discouragement' came from the United States, Great Britain, the Soviet Union, and France

 

[SlickWilly]

since i trust rossum's grasp of history (but not my age ) it's noteworthy that this 'discouragement' came from the United States, Great Britain, the Soviet Union, and France

Well in context, many German's were supporting the Nazi's so yeah, I can understand why they would. Once we found the death camps they forced the people in the surrounding towns to bury the dead, they knew what was going on and still they carried on with their comfortable lives. But that was then and Germany, do they have high school football teams?

 

[Katya]

It's a tradition, a way of showing patriotism, being thankful for and showing the love for the country we live in, paying respect and honor for all those who are and have served so we can be free.

And so that many others, in far away places, can be free also.

My country and at least three generations of my family have been saved and liberated first in 1945 by US led Allied Forces, and then again in 1987 (tear that wall). So I have a different perspective. I sometimes wonder if natural born American citizens really understand the miracle and uniqueness of their own country--sometimes it seems to me as though they may be taking too much for granted.

Anyway, I will always cherish and honor the American flag and all it stands for. And I'll never forget the day when I watched my American-born daughter recite her Pledge of Allegiance for the first time on the first day of Kindergarten.

Oh, and thank you for your service.

 

[tiburonfirst]

do they have high school football teams?

nope! and not in college either

 

[tiburonfirst]

Anyway, I will always cherish and honor the American flag and all it stands for.

no arguments there, tweety what i can't wrap my head around is why football or baseball or whatever is considered to be the right venue ....................

 

[Katya]

no arguments there, tweety what i can't wrap my head around is why football or baseball or whatever is considered to be the right venue ....................

You want logic. This is all about emotions, tradition, happiness.

I love the flags, the national anthem, the color guard, the fireworks. It brings people together, makes them happy and proud and exuberant. I always cry when they sing the anthem. I just do and feels good. This is my favorite part of the game, actually, except for tonight's game!

Go Dodgers!

 

[tiburonfirst]

Go Dodgers!

 

[Rossum]

excuuuuuuuuuuuse me!
''On this day in History, Allies end occupation of West Germany on May 05, 1955.''

Apparently nobody told the French because they didn't leave the army base they occupied in my home town until 1992.

i'm old enough as it is! please, don't add!

Given my frame of reference, I suspect I could probably subtract.

 

[Eskie]

Apparently nobody told the French because they didn't leave the army base they occupied in my home town until 1992.

Yeah, the French. They always like to do things their way.

 

[Katya]

So..... I take it it's still an inopportune time to ask about dna 75 mods?

Be back later.

Gotta watch that mini coup d'etat mutiny insubordination happening possibly in this country as we speak... Oy.......... This is not good.

 

[SlickWilly]

And so that many others, in far away places, can be free also.

My country and at least three generations of my family have been saved and liberated first in 1945 by US led Allied Forces, and then again in 1987 (tear that wall). So I have a different perspective. I sometimes wonder if natural born American citizens really understand the miracle and uniqueness of their own country--sometimes it seems to me as though they may be taking too much for granted.

Anyway, I will always cherish and honor the American flag and all it stands for. And I'll never forget the day when I watched my American-born daughter recite her Pledge of Allegiance for the first time on the first day of Kindergarten.

Oh, and thank you for your service.

Amen!

Just to set the record straight, I never served, one huge regret I look back on. The flag was given to me by someone who was there, the story is personal and not one I'll share, I keep that one for myself.