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110 is more than enough for me.
Papering the kitchen many moons ago...
Tired, had been at it all day. Last strip had an outlet.
Hey, I'm good - I can be careful enough...wooden handle cutter and all...
Things were going well until by reflex for the last vertical cut I put my finger on the back of the blade for pressure.
Zap-Pow ! I don't know if it knocked me or if I jumped back :lol:
 

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I'm sorry but there's no excuse for getting shocked when working on house wiring. Those funny looking black things in your whatchacallit box can turn off power if you push them sideways. Keeps the juice from cook'n yer goose. I'm never impressed by those who brag about working with live wires but to each their own I guess. It's just so easy to turn off the curcuit breaker!
 

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Not so much yesterday. My Daughter closed on her first house Thursday and I changed out the devices yesterday. Many layers of paint and in some rooms layer(s) of old wall paper with paint below and after. Took way too long and had to use my linesman pliers to remove almost all of the old flat blade screws because of the paint. Good thing was I found only a few DIY modifications that I had to deal with to make safe. Non electricians should not screw with home wiring without getting a permit and inspections. I'm sure they think they are doing it right and heck it worked but I've seen some things throughout the years that ended up badly. Here is a WTH from yesterday. So glad I went through her house, there were 3 other WTH's before I took pics of this one.

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BTW, that ground wire went to the receptacle that was added and did nothing since the original system was non grounded romex. There were several other grounding receptacles that someone installed but not anymore. Sheesh, they still make non grounded receptacles and besides being againt code why install grounding receptacles that aren't grounded? Might as well just rip that ground off the plug in, same result except giving a false impression that it's grounded to someone else. False grounding (also wrapping the neutral around the ground terminal) can actually be more dangerous so don't do that and most inspectors don't spend the $ for the tester that reveals it. Found 1 of those yesterday the home inspector missed. Also replaced the Buchanan crimps I found that were popular in the early 60's by properly twisting the wires then good wire nuts. Been on my fair share of service calls where they were failing. All this was after I officially fixed (as an electrical contractor) the things a week ago that the home inspector found. Found about 4 things that were for sure future problems and possibly fires and about a dozen other things I tidied up besides the Buchanans. All were obviously homeowner or "good friend" done.

Rant over.

Wow, there's like 6 code violations on that one receptacle!

Skinned insulation on neutral wire.
Ground wire wrapped wrong direction.
Two wires on a screw terminal.
Improper insulation clearance to screw terminal.
Wire not fully captured by screw terminal.
Insufficient wire protrusion exiting screw terminal.
And by today's code the receptacle is mounted upside down. (Not required except for new construction).

Did I miss anything Alex?

I run into a lot of electrical code violations but I think that's the worst I've ever seen for a single receptacle.... lol
 

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I'm sorry but there's no excuse for getting shocked when working on house wiring. Those funny looking black things in your whatchacallit box can turn off power if you push them sideways. Keeps the juice from cook'n yer goose. I'm never impressed by those who brag about working with live wires but to each their own I guess. It's just so easy to turn off the curcuit breaker!
It helps if you have well-labelled breakers.

And you know what really OCD people do? They mark the back of each switch or outlet cover-plate with the number of the breaker that you have to flip to kill power at that box. This can be done incrementally, as you figure it out...
 

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And you know what really OCD people do? They mark the back of each switch or outlet cover-plate with the number of the breaker that you have to flip to kill power at that box. This can be done incrementally, as you figure it out...





ohmygosh - I think that is genius !!!
 

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Nothing in the NEC says which direction a receptacle must be mounted. The old timer thinking (according to an old timer when I was a young apprentice) was with the ground up so that if something metal fell and somehow managed to wedge itself between the rec and plug it wouldn't short out the non grounded (hot) and intentionally grounded (neutral) current carrying conductors. Been with the ground down in practice around here since I was a pup. BTW, I have a pic of a really impressive hand made drawing on a receptacle plate but can't post it here. :rules:
 

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Well I ordered a 100 ml bottle of Boba's Bounty, ordered 24 mg nic as I will add 100 ml of no nic PG to it so I can use it in my daily gear. The fact that I felt that I needed to make it thinner was a big factor with my hesitation.
 

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