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In the very beginning I wanted my vape to taste like tobacco, now that's the last thing that I want it to taste like. I never did find any e liquid that tasted like tobacco til fasttech got my order of Liqua wrong and sent me Liqua Traditional Tobacco. It tasted like a Parodi cigar so I gave the extra bottles to a vape shop for their newbies wanting tobacco.
When I first started vaping I searched and searched for a real cigar flavor. I even made my own cigar extract from a cigar and PG.

I never could nail anything that taste like cigar, the extract I made smelled like a cigar but never the taste. After a while I gave up and discovered desert and bakery type flavors and the rest as they say is history...

Now I've gotten to the point I'm not even a fan of 50/50 - too much PG. It has to be 70/30 or max VG.
 

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+1, still got 2 DNA40 boards (large screen) looking for a home... being in Europe doesn't help either, any suggestions highly appreciated thanks
Still got 3 from a dna40 coop long time ago. Never used any of them.
 

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A lot of these sites use quotes calculated from shippers into their site so they probably don't know how high int'l rates are until someone says something. Most vendors are willing to work on shipping rates if you call/e-mail them.
On hte couple of occasions I have asked they have refused to just ship small stuff USPS

I'm pretty sure you guys aren't leaving the EU. It would be financial suicide for the UK to do so.
Too close to call, the last polls were even at 45% each, most people you speak to want to leave, it's crazy that a simple majority is being used for something this important to our future IMO it should be 67% for a change.
 
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On hte couple of occasions I have asked they have refused to just ship small stuff USPS

first class international is risky for a vendor - no insurance available and most credit cards or paypal hold the seller responsible until delivery, not mailing :(
 

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first class international is risky for a vendor - no insurance available and most credit cards or paypal hold the seller responsible until delivery, not mailing :(
I know and offered to accept the risk, one eBay seller selling short lengths of the heat resistant ds tape Evolv use even refused to put a shorter section in a normal envelope if I paid for a much longer but. I was looking for some sawhorse brackets recently, they don't exist over here, but there are US sellers on eBay that will do a pair shipped for $15, so there are cheaper options out there.

It makes getting small items impossible, Protovapor (I didn't ask them for reduced shipping this is just the figures on their site) wanting $37 to ship a single Evolv 510 and if you don't know the right people that effectively makes them unavailable in the UK. Once the value goes over £20GBP we have a £8 handling charge and 20% sales tax so you have to get 13 IIRC just to bring the cost down to £20GBP.

Varitube on the other hand will offer $13.50 shipping, I put an order in yesterday for 4 510s, some insulators and ground rings that came to more than the price an Evolv 510.
 

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I know and offered to accept the risk, one eBay seller selling short lengths of the heat resistant ds tape Evolv use even refused to put a shorter section in a normal envelope if I paid for a much longer but. I was looking for some sawhorse brackets recently, they don't exist over here, but there are US sellers on eBay that will do a pair shipped for $15, so there are cheaper options out there.

It makes getting small items impossible, Protovapor (I didn't ask them for reduced shipping this is just the figures on their site) wanting $37 to ship a single Evolv 510 and if you don't know the right people that effectively makes them unavailable in the UK. Once the value goes over £20GBP we have a £8 handling charge and 20% sales tax so you have to get 13 IIRC just to bring the cost down to £20GBP.

Varitube on the other hand will offer $13.50 shipping, I put an order in yesterday for 4 510s, some insulators and ground rings that came to more than the price an Evolv 510.

I've tried some of those sawhorse brackets over the years and both sets were junk, ended up making a pair of horses all from wood and they have held up for ten years now. The ones I had were made from stamped sheet metal, they were too thin and bent easily. Also the legs are too close together and they tip over easy. My son in law has a set of plastic horses, I was very impressed with them, very sturdy and love that they fold up and take little space to store. This is the style I tried.
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I've tried some of those sawhorse brackets over the years and both sets were junk, ended up making a pair of horses all from wood and they have held up for ten years now. The ones I had were made from stamped sheet metal, they were too thin and bent easily. Also the legs are too close together and they tip over easy. My son in law has a set of plastic horses, I was very impressed with them, very sturdy and love that they fold up and take little space to store. This is the style I tried.
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I though so, at least with the cheap eBay ones, I just want to make a cheap temp chop/mitre saw stand and am going to make a 8" to 12" wide frame from 3"x2" that can sit on my existing tressels. For supporting long timber and repeat cuts, nothing fancy it just needs to do a reasonable job, be able to put out of the way when not in use and quick to set up or it won't get used.
 
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Well here it is, our government has gone over the cliff. When our own representatives are willing to break house rules, have no respect for a code of conduct or respect for the position they hold then the system is broken. This should not be allowed to stand and those that were a part of this need to be held responsible and face consequences including possible removal from office, anything less and order is lost. If this just gets brushed aside and nothing is done, it will only get worse and the end results will not be pretty for any of us. Our government has run amuck, breaks rules, procedures, laws, lies and violates the Constitution, and does so openly with no regard of what we think. It all leaves me with a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach and fear what kind of world my grandkids will have to live in.
 

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The most recent statistics from the FBI show the murder rate has been consistently declining, despite Chicago, and is at a 50 year low while gun ownership has increased over 140%. Throw in the fact that almost ten times as many people died from "blunt force" murder than all long guns, and the current situation is what Rham Emanuel always said, "never let a good crisis go to waste".
 

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The most recent statistics from the FBI show the murder rate has been consistently declining, despite Chicago, and is at a 50 year low while gun ownership has increased over 140%. Throw in the fact that almost ten times as many people died from "blunt force" murder than all long guns, and the current situation is what Rham Emanuel always said, "never let a good crisis go to waste".

I don't see this is a gun issues, this "sit in" in the house is beyond that. We can have that debate, but there is a time and place for it, but not a sit in like this, not on the house floor. We have never seen something like that here, in other countries that run amuck yes but not here. What's next? Throw punches? We must have rules and respect for the office otherwise there is no structure and the gloves come off. Once we get to that point everything goes to hell.

There is so much hate in our country, more then I've seen in my lifetime. Now we see it in our government. There is no more compromise, no more live and let live. It's all me, me, me, I'm right, your wrong so shut up and you have no right to disagree. And lying, it's acceptable to lie if it's leads to an objective you fell is right.

What does this say to our youth? It's acceptable behavior and this is how you act? Where's the red line, where does it end?
 

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I think the hatred has always been there. It's just more visible with the social media culture. The Democrats are getting more juvenile with their temper tantrums. They talk about common sense gun laws but they propose anything but common sense.

I watch it on c-span, the republican's put up a bill that mirrored Feinstein's but it included a measure that would allow anyone who was on the "list" who shouldn't have and was blocked from buying a firearm, a way to plead against it and restore his rights, but the democrat's wouldn't vote for it. Why?

House rules were broken when they started that disruption, the sargent of arms should have been called in to stop it by enforcing order and removing any of them who refused. They should never have let that go on more then a few minuets, now it's too late, that was a mistake not to stop it right away.
 
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The list is like the problem at hand with vaping. Those that want to control everyone in every way possible. It is guilty until proven innocent, throws away the principle of due process, and goes against every grain of my body.

Exactly, another example of the government thinking they know what's best for us and will do what ever they want regardless of proof or public opinion. The government try's to sway public opinion using selective and false reports. Those also jump to seize any opportunity whenever there is a crises, they have done it to the point where now many people believe the government stages false flags to create a crisis giving them an opportunity to push another agenda. And the "news" falls right in line promoting their agenda's, even c-span and pbs who are suppose to be impartial. the house camera's are not allowed to be used for unofficial business and have been turned off during this sit in but c-span has been live streaming footage from democrat's cell phones.

About every dept and branch of the government has been used for overreach of powers to enforce agenda's, is done in such volume that it's like playing whack a mole to rein it back in, just like the FDA with these regs. The government spy's on us and has been for so long that when we find out about another method of spying we just yawn because we are so condition to it. They don't care if we know, we won't do anything about it so it just gets worse and worse.

We have border control road blocks miles inside the boarder where you are stopped, questioned and told to show id, "show me your papers" ya vol! Free speech zones! During katrina the police went house to house seizing guns, during the boston bombing the city was locked down, the police went house to house searching for the bomber's. The government violates our rights openly and it's all televised. Conditioning, how do you boil a frog..... It won't be long and we won't be any different the russia, we're almost there now.
 

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Anyone know of a affordable stab wood box or mod? Maybe Chinese made I could retrofit an Evolv chip in to?

Most I've seen are $300+

Trucker was the first to come to mind. Might be worth giving him a shout, if he doesn't work with it he may have leads.
 

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