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mikepetro

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Well still no show for mine :(
Honestly I can see how you would have this opinion :) I to have 6 OG mizer's & I know they will be really hard to beat! I really don't like the vape band AFC or the lack of top fill, But the flavour and vapour production for me is just about perfect :) I'm especially fond of my first OG Mizer :wub: it came right from SC & for some reason it's just vaping perfection for me. I do have my favourite juice in there, mite have some thing to do with it. If I could only keep one atty, with out hesitation I know witch one it would be :)
To me, the only thing about it that is clearly superior is the AFC.

AFC - clearly better
Top fill - a total wash. This no easier/harder than the bottom fill on the original. In both cases you are unscrewing, and setting aside, a wet piece.
Juice control - undecided, though it is necessary for top filling.
Flavor - marginally better, though not enough to make it a slam dunk.
Vapor quality - low vapor, could be my fault.
Larger tank - mixed feelings, more capacity is nice but larger diameter looks funny on 22mm mods.


I have two ERM+ mods side by side, both tweaked as good as I know how. The original is a better vape. The Supreme may improve with time as I learn to adjust the juice/AFC/temp/coils, but for now I like the original the best.

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Go for it, let me know when YOUR Co-op starts....

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LOL!

Don't worry, I wouldn't be running a coop for them. Merely making the STLs available on Thingiverse to the Good People in your threads should they be looking to print one (with your kind permission of course).

I'm only playing around with Tinkercad a little & don't even have a 3D printer to test the results of the modifications I made.
 
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To me, the only thing about it that is clearly superior is the AFC.

AFC - clearly better
Top fill - a total wash. This no easier/harder than the bottom fill on the original. In both cases you are unscrewing, and setting aside, a wet piece.
Juice control - undecided, though it is necessary for top filling.
Flavor - marginally better, though not enough to make it a slam dunk.
Vapor quality - low vapor, could be my fault.
Larger tank - mixed feelings, more capacity is nice but larger diameter looks funny on 22mm mods.


I have two ERM+ mods side by side, both tweaked as good as I know how. The original is a better vape. The Supreme may improve with time as I learn to adjust the juice/AFC/temp/coils, but for now I like the original the best.

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I have grown to like top fill :) For me the OG mizer is a PIA to fill :( I have to remove it from the mod, This is a lot of un necessary wear on the 510 threads. There isn't really too much room to get the juice in. With a big hole top fill system you can pour right out of the bottle. Along with the top fill feature come the juice shut off, this has to be done right or the flooding and leaking become more of a PIA than the bottom filling.
IMO if they would have updated the OG mizer with a nice AFC like the Supreme has & a proper juice control for top filling, it would have been a home run :) 25 mm is a little too bulky :(
 
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I dunno, Steamer. Taking the original 'mizer apart to fill it does have a few advantages. You can check the coils and wicks regularly and make any tweaks needed. Then you can clean out all the condensate from the chimney and air tube as well. I fill mine using a 5ml syringe, actually conveniently holds about 6ml, with a 16 gauge blunt needle, quick and easy. I just have to make sure I remember to take it apart upside down, DUUHHHOOOOO. As far as the AFC, I haven't used that since day one with the 'mizer.
 

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I dunno, Steamer. Taking the original 'mizer apart to fill it does have a few advantages. You can check the coils and wicks regularly and make any tweaks needed. Then you can clean out all the condensate from the chimney and air tube as well. I fill mine using a 5ml syringe, actually conveniently holds about 6ml, with a 16 gauge blunt needle, quick and easy. I just have to make sure I remember to take it apart upside down, DUUHHHOOOOO. As far as the AFC, I haven't used that since day one with the 'mizer.

Everyone's needs & likes are different. I have been using the AFC bands cause 4 air holes is to much for me. I will admit it is nice to have a quick look at the wicks & coils when your filling. I use glass bottles with dripper tubes for my juice, one little tube full at a time can be annoying. With Top fill tanks I just pour it in :) I don't have an opinion on the new Supreme cause Canada post is taking forever to deliver mine :( As far as the OG mizer the vape band and the bottom fill are definite Cons for me :( Even with those cons It's still my favourite tank, for it's flavour and vapour production as opposed to a more perfect tank like the Cthulhu V2, my #2 it does everything perfectly. Just comes up a tiny bit short on flavour :(
A question for everyone following this thread? What is your favourite single coil tank?
I have been wrap up in Dual coil setups lately and haven't been paying attention to single coil tanks.
Right now I run a K-F V3&4 & a crown in single coil mode, what else is out there?
 
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I've got a FlashEVape V3 that love. I did drill the single air hole out to 3.5mm but that doesn't sound like something you'd need to do. Single coil, 5ml tanks capacity, choice of stainless or plastic tank (comes with the kit) and can be filled simply by pouring liquid into the tank. Downside is setting up the liquid feed, but once that's done it's a really nice tank. I haven't had to fool with the feed system in months, by the way.
 

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LOL!

Don't worry, I wouldn't be running a coop for them. Merely making the STLs available on Thingiverse to the Good People in your threads should they be looking to print one (with your kind permission of course).
Not my permission to give. It's Evolves design, and they gave permission by putting it in the public domain.

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IMO the mizers are tops in every aspect, the only one I have found to dethrone them is the Boreas with a 8ml capacity and AFC/JFC
 

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KTM, I've seen an ad, almost daily during the evening from Ford touting a "180 degree forward view camera system" on maybe an Edge or Focus, not really sure. Certainly not rock crawling capable and shown with a Mom and daughter on a downtown street. I know technology is a great thing, but this looks pretty dumb to me.
Have a look here..

Dashcams are becoming very useful [emoji16]
 
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Dash cams for documenting an accident are a good idea given the amount of scamming and fraud, but a 180 degree view system, with a display down on the dashboard, to provide additional "safety" just doesn't make sense to me. You have to take your eyes off the road to look at the display and then it won't show you anything more than what you can see simply by glancing slightly left and right assuming you have normal vision and if you don't have normal vision maybe you shouldn't be driving. IF it does record it could be useful in preventing scams and fraud, but if it doesn't it's just another screen door for a submarine that will cost thousands to fix when it breaks.
 
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I'd be willing to pay to have one printed locally if you adjusted it to fit my battery size.
LOL!

Don't worry, I wouldn't be running a coop for them. Merely making the STLs available on Thingiverse to the Good People in your threads should they be looking to print one (with your kind permission of course).

I'm only playing around with Tinkercad a little & don't even have a 3D printer to test the results of the modifications I made.
 
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I'd be willing to pay to have one printed locally if you adjusted it to fit my battery size.
I thought you had your own 3D Printer. Is there a problem with layout?

I've been looking around at 18650 battery sleds and they are usually about 21mm w x 78-80mm tall. The inside of that printed ERM layout is 20.8mm so stock sleds are going to need modification to fit inside. Currently working on a different sled design.
 
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