Evolv-ing Thread

[awsum140]

looks like Norway is progressive...they'll all be driving these come 2025
Electric race car sets an acceleration world record

It did that in 2/10 of a mile, and the batteries were probably needing a charge by then. Battery cars could work in a smaller country like Norway, unless you want to drive from the north end to the south end in a reasonable time frame or want to drive less than 100 miles at a time. Battery capacity has a long, long, way to go before it is truly workable in the real world, not to mention affordable. It's either that, battery motor efficiency, or a small, efficient, onboard, generation system to provide the power. Even the Tesla, vaunted as it is, can't go 100 miles if you use something basic like headlights, air conditioning or heating.

 

[SlickWilly]

It did that in 2/10 of a mile, and the batteries were probably needing a charge by then. Battery cars could work in a smaller country like Norway, unless you want to drive from the north end to the south end in a reasonable time frame or want to drive less than 100 miles at a time. Battery capacity has a long, long, way to go before it is truly workable in the real world, not to mention affordable. It's either that, battery motor efficiency, or a small, efficient, onboard, generation system to provide the power. Even the Tesla, vaunted as it is, can't go 100 miles if you use something basic like headlights, air conditioning or heating.

They'll build nuclear power plants to provide the power to recharge the battery's. Nuclear is green until you have to deal with the waste, face a natural or man made disaster. I think the Amish are on to something, we have a community here. They go by the house in their horse buggies all the time, don't even notice them until one of the horse's leaves a present in the road then the smell lingers for a couple days.

 

[berger]

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It did that in 2/10 of a mile, and the batteries were probably needing a charge by then. Battery cars could work in a smaller country like Norway, unless you want to drive from the north end to the south end in a reasonable time frame or want to drive less than 100 miles at a time. Battery capacity has a long, long, way to go before it is truly workable in the real world, not to mention affordable. It's either that, battery motor efficiency, or a small, efficient, onboard, generation system to provide the power. Even the Tesla, vaunted as it is, can't go 100 miles if you use something basic like headlights, air conditioning or heating.

looks like the tech maybe a little closer then many think..
The Tesla Model 3 May Depend on This Battery Breakthrough

I was mostly pointing out electric cars can be super bad azz and the hybred tech is already there from McCearen and Ferrari and BMW (to name a few) in the exotic supercars already OTR...I agree there are hurdles but advancements are coming and the potentials could be very cool

 

[awsum140]

Ya know, being a cynic and skeptic by nature, I've always wondered about hybrids. Do the "carbon footprint" figures include such things as manufacturing the batteries, manufacturing all the components (controls, motor and such) proper disposal of the batteries (lots of nasty heavy metals that are power intensive to dispose of properly) and the additional manufacturing steps needed to produce them? What about the HP/weight ratio hit from carrying two power and motive sources? Not a lot of efficiency in that, at least to me. I asked at a lot of dealerships, looked online, and no one really says one way or the other. Driving one sure can cut fuel costs, but I do wonder about the overall "power" cost and resulting environmental impact being any better than conventional carbon fueled vehicles.

Being able to build a super car that does a quarter mile in x seconds or tops out at xxx mph is certainly nice, but getting it into the real world is a whole other problem. I can't imagine Joe Consumer driving a BMW, McClaren or Ferrari on his daily commute or taking the family on vacation in his $100,000+ electric ride. Granted advances are being made, but the optimism may be a little ahead of reality. Personally, I'd love a car that didn't need to stop at a gas station, but unless and until an equally suitable source of portable power comes along, it's what we're stuck with. When I was working, my daily commute was 75 miles, each way. I wouldn't want to risk relying on the current, "advanced", levels of electric cars for that nor could I afford one in the first place.

Hydrogen power looked good, until it dawned on the inventors that extracting the hydrogen used more energy than the hydrogen produces. If a way to produce hydrogen that is efficient could be found, that has promise. On the other hand, being powered, effectively, by water is kind of attractive, not to mention cheap to obtain.

 

[KTMRider]

Formula 1 has been using KERS (Kinetic energy recovery system) for the last 2 years and there's a new race series, Formula E with electric only cars. Most of the technologies from these race series tend to trickle down to consumer products.

The biggest problem I see with electric only is the recharge time. They need to figure out how to bring it down to less than an hour or so. They're playing with fast charging a phone battery so they're getting closer. 2025 might be a bit ambitious though.

 

[dwcraig1]

The capacitors are coming, don't worry.

 

[dwcraig1]

On a different not, this morning I was vaping a Blucig carto @ 4 watts on a DNA200. I should have taken a photo. What was kind of interesting about it is that particular type/flavor was what my first vape was. It's the tobacco one, I never did find any eliquid that taste like it. It sure did vape poorly, I can't believe I lasted 3 days without a cig. Went on to a big mod, Ego 650.
Edit: It took me longer to get it set up than it did to be finished with it.

I had a bit of a problem, I used the profile for preheat with Kanthal, even though I set it to 4 watts the 110 watt preheat fried the coil, it worked in TC for a moment. I turned off preheat and put another one on. What a poor vape but actually the flavor I like.

 

[VapingBad]

Formula 1 has been using KERS (Kinetic energy recovery system) for the last 2 years and there's a new race series, Formula E with electric only cars. Most of the technologies from these race series tend to trickle down to consumer products.

The biggest problem I see with electric only is the recharge time. They need to figure out how to bring it down to less than an hour or so. They're playing with fast charging a phone battery so they're getting closer. 2025 might be a bit ambitious though.

They go a lot further than KERS, which have had that for much longer. KERS just recovers energy under breaking, they also recover energy from the turbo fan, both by motor/generators attached to the engine in these places. They have found that they can use the motor/generator attached to the turbo to get it up to speed far faster saving even more flue and whit a host of other tech like the tiny ignition chambers in the cylinder head thermal efficiency is nearly 50%.
F1 cars are more efficient than electric cars

 

[KTMRider]

It's McLaren, not McCearen.

The KERS system uses capacitors and gives the race cars about 100hp extra (to 900hp).

My first e-cig was those cheap gas station types. I bought a 3 cart kit and then got the Blucigs kit. I still have about 10 new carts before I went on to Johnson Creek's verison of the ego 650.

 

[Phone Guy]

I started with an ego battery, those ego (ce4) style tanks that were probably all fakes of something (though I had no idea at the time), moved to a Protank 2 and an evic (original 11w evic tube) which actually kept me going for a while, but the rest, as they say, is history.

Edit, and I actually liked dekang cigar (Cuban cigar? Cohiba? I can't remember the name)... Haven't had it a while, I still might like it.

 

[dwcraig1]

I used dual coil carto's in a tank on a V/Zmax for the longest time, then came the GG clones....heaven I thought.

Todays photo, that vapes like crap too by today's standards (mine)

 

[awsum140]

That tobacco flavor from Blu is really a great flavor, to me anyway, and I have yet to find anything as good. Some close, but not quite if you know what I mean.

Thanks, DW, now I know I can use my old CE3s on my DNA stuff if all else fails. I've got at least 100 of them and rebuilt them constantly. Handy for vapemagedon.

 

[dwcraig1]

I started with an ego battery, those ego (ce4) style tanks that were probably all fakes of something (though I had no idea at the time), moved to a Protank 2 and an evic (original 11w evic tube) which actually kept me going for a while, but the rest, as they say, is history.

Edit, and I actually liked dekang cigar (Cuban cigar? Cohiba? I can't remember the name)... Haven't had it a while, I still might like it.

Hey if you happen to see that Liqua Traditional Tobacco on FT you might give it a try, that's the one I said tastes like an Italian cigar....well some kind of cigar perhaps.

 

[dwcraig1]

I ordered an Hcigar VT133 yesterday from NWvapes for $80, I'm out of control
Code "20offjuly4th" and free shipping. I really should just build one, a 200 or 75 looks easy compared to a 40. (the soldering part)

 

[KTMRider]

Johnson Creek has really good tobacco flavors. Tennessee Cured and No22 were my favorites.

I'm really trying to fight off the urge to buy a VT75. Having these urges close to national holidays with sales doesn't help.

 

[awsum140]

I tried Marlbo from eLiq and it's pretty decent. I've tried Johnson Creeks stuff and didn't like it which lead me to DIY.

 

[Phone Guy]

How often are you folks rewicking?

I tend to rewick or recoil and rewick every couple tanks, 10ml to 15ml. If the coil is ni200 I usually recoil - I've never had much success cleaning those, and even when it does work I can remake the coil faster than I can clean it... SS316 I can dry burn with minimal deformation, so minor adjustment to the coil and new wicking.

I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the juice, as I've got a few home made DIY juices that gunk the Coils so bad every tank needs a new wick and coil, or on the second tank you can taste the gunk burning on the Coils (yuk)

I'm sure guys like KTM who I think mentioned cuts his liquid (or was it willy?) 50/50 with VG, can make a coil and wick last much longer.

I feel like new Coils/wicks every 10ml or so is too often? So I wanted to know what the group does too... Thanks in advance for reading.

 

[dwcraig1]

My SMY75 has pretty much taken the lead here, not really sure why.

 

[dwcraig1]

I think nobody is going to believe me, around 100 ml, gone over 150 before. For sure the juice.
(post 1937)

 

[MadOzodi]

I use READYxWick...

So, at least a month before clean burning and close to two before rewicking.


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