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Neither code worked for me.
Try all caps. You must have a user name for the discount to apply (cannot check out as a guest.) This was my first purchase with them and I just created my username. It will not lower itemized price but take it off total. May only work on items in clearance section as all mine were there except the uwell D1 coils. Wierd system.

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In case any are interested. I tried to pull salient quotes from source below. Sorry to those that are not - please disregard.

Talk about disappointments. The US government's much-anticipated analysis of Russian-sponsored hacking operations provides almost none of the promised evidence linking them to breaches that the Obama administration claims were orchestrated in an attempt to interfere with the 2016 presidential election.

Sadly, the JAR, as the Joint Analysis Report is called, does little to end the debate. Instead of providing smoking guns that the Russian government was behind specific hacks, it largely restates previous private-sector claims without providing any support for their validity. Even worse, it provides an effective bait and switch by promising newly declassified intelligence into Russian hackers' "tradecraft and techniques" and instead delivering generic methods carried out by just about all state-sponsored hacking groups.

The mix up of such basic classifications does little to inspire confidence that the report was carefully or methodically prepared. And that only sows more reasons for President elect Donald Trump and his supporters to cast doubt on the intelligence community's analysis on a matter that, if true, poses a major national security threat.

one of the signatures detects the presence of "PAS TOOL WEB KIT," a tool that's widely used by literally hundreds, and possibly thousands, of hackers in Russia and Ukraine, most of whom are otherwise unaffiliated and have no connection to the Russian government.

Carr wrote. "It is both foolish and baseless to claim, as CrowdStrike does, that X-Agent is used solely by the Russian government when the source code is there for anyone to find and use at will."

The lack of specifics and vagueness about exactly how the DHS and FBI have determined Russian involvement in the hacks leaves the report sounding more like innuendo than a carefully crafted indictment.

Still, it's hard to escape the conclusion that Thursday's Joint Analysis Report provides almost no new evidence to support the Obama Administration's claims Russia attempted to interfere with the US electoral process. Absent something more, the increasingly bitter debate may rage on indefinitely.

White House fails to make case that Russian hackers tampered with election
 
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And you expected more from the current administration? Let alone the propaganda machine it runs?

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No. Actually I actually thought the timing was again to try and put this on the front pages before the Jan 6th Counting of the Electoral Votes in Congress hoping Trump would continue to Tweet stupid stuff about how he doesn't believe it hoping that Congress would declare him unfit, reject the EC Vote, and install Colin Powell in his place as unlikely as that may seem.

It does not help that Trump will not take a Security Briefing on the evidence until next week. He is acting exactly as they expect but hasn't done too much damage yet. Long weekend though.

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No. Actually I actually thought the timing was again to try and put this on the front pages before the Jan 6th Counting of the Electoral Votes in Congress hoping Trump would continue to Tweet he doesn't believe it hoping that Congress would declare him unfit, reject the EC Vote, and install Colin Powell in his place.
Now that is a stretch, but hey why not? They are all under the gun when he takes office as it won't be business as usual. I hope their corrupt world comes crashing in on them.

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Now that is a stretch, but hey why not? They are all under the gun when he takes office as it won't be business as usual. I hope their corrupt world comes crashing in on them.

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It seems to me they will grasp any straw that might keep him out of the White House. CNN is trying to make a case at how clueless Trump in that he doesn't believe the evidence, he is refusing security briefings, etc. while 99 Senators are saying they do believe it and are saying that they will take action if Trump does not.
 
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No. Actually I actually thought the timing was again to try and put this on the front pages before the Jan 6th Counting of the Electoral Votes in Congress hoping Trump would continue to Tweet he doesn't believe it hoping that Congress would declare him unfit, reject the EC Vote, and install Colin Powell in his place as unlikely as that may seem.

It does not help that Trump will not take a Security Briefing on the evidence until next week. He is acting exactly as they expect but hasn't done too much damage yet.

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Can't see that happening, any who might think about jumping on board with that would have to realize if it fails they would have to face the music. They would have to stand to gain an awful lot because they risk loosing as much, if not more. What could they gain? How many would be willing to roll the dice?
 
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Can't see that happening, any who might think about jumping on board with that would have to realize if it fails they would have to face the music. They would have to stand to gain an awful lot because they risk loosing as much, if not more. What could they gain? How many would be willing to roll the dice?
If Trump were to get drunk at 3am and start tweeting crazy stuff, they could sell it pretty easily as them performing their sworn duty in the best interests of the USA & try to make it stick. So long as they chose someone who received Electoral Votes and did not install Hillary, it might fly.

Adding fuel to the fire they are trying to ignite: Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, U.S. officials say
 
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If Trump were to get drunk at 3am and start tweeting crazy stuff, they could sell it pretty easily as them performing their sworn duty in the best interests of the USA & try to make it stick. So long as they chose someone who received Electoral Votes and did not install Hillary, it might fly.

Adding fuel to the fire they are trying to ignite: Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, U.S. officials say
Trump doesn't drink.
 

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Trump doesn't drink.
I've heard that, but New Years & all. I don't know what he does at 3am when he starts the tweets, but if he says something monumentally stupid, they will, Republican & Democrat alike, pounce on him & try to remove him.

Democrats would much rather have Powell than Trump. Their Electoral Slate crossed party lines to cast Electoral votes for him. That would sit well with Never Trump Republicans and probably most of main stream America given the alternative. CNN is pushing hard that this is not partisan, but a serious attack on the USA that crosses party lines.

They will ratchet this up the closer we get to the counting, adding fuel wherever possible. All they would need to do is declassify a Trump collusion with Russia (that would ultimately prove untenable), preferably of the Trump Campaign in direct communication with the Kremlin or one of the sons released on January 5th or so and they could probably pull it off.

I wouldn't put it past them. They could also try to delay the Inauguration leaving our current illustrious leader in place to deal with the crisis until this affair was fully investigated by Congress if they find a scrap of paper tying Trump to Russia or Ivanka has a nesting doll.

I'll believe Trump will be president when I see him sworn in.
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Has anyone tried any of the copper fit stuff for aches and pain? I see they are advertising the back braces for $20, wonder if they would help my back pain. My back has gotten markedly worse the last year, on top of the pain meds and muscle relaxers I've lived on for years my doctor has added a steroid pack every 2-3 months. The steroids help a lot but I hate taking them, near the end of the week of taking them I get very short tempered and little things set me off. It only lasts a few days but that's not me and I hate being like that. My buddy gave me a tens unit he used before his surgery, that helps too but wearing the unit with the wires is a hassle if your up and about or trying to do any work. Guess I don't have much to loose other then $20 to try the copper fit, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone has tried them and how they worked for you.
 

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I jinxed my last FT order :( It shows it was deliver on the 29th, just not here.
We have a new mail man again & in the last few weeks I got a package & 3 letters from other address on my street! I had to re deliver.
How hard can it be to look at an address on a letter/package & compare it to the number on the house!
He's a young guy, God help us when his generation takes over!
 
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I've heard that, but New Years & all. I don't know what he does at 3am when he starts the tweets, but if he says something monumentally stupid, they will, Republican & Democrat alike, pounce on him & try to remove him.

Democrats would rather much rather have Powell than Trump. Their Electoral Slate crossed party lines to cast Electoral votes for him. That would sit well with Never Trump Republicans and probably most of main stream America given the alternative. CNN is pushing hard that this is not partisan, but a serious attack on the USA that crosses party lines.

They will ratchet this up the closer we get to the counting, adding fuel wherever possible. All they would need to do is declassify a Trump collusion with Russia (that would ultimately prove untenable), preferably of the Trump Campaign in direct communication with the Kremlin or one of the sons released on January 5th or so and they could probably pull it off.

I wouldn't put it past them. They could also try to delay the Inauguration leaving our current illustrious leader in place to deal with the crisis until this affair was fully investigated by Congress if they come up with a scrap of paper tying Trump to Russia.

I'll believe Trump will be president when I see him sworn in.
Nothing will come of any of the crap the left (or Never Trump rejects) is trying to pull to stop Trump. Everything will go as planned and they'll all still be butthurt. Just enjoy the show. Laughter is the best medicine :)

Has anyone tried any of the copper fit stuff for aches and pain? I see they are advertising the back braces for $20, wonder if they would help my back pain. My back has gotten markedly worse the last year, on top of the pain meds and muscle relaxers I've lived on for years my doctor has added a steroid pack every 2-3 months. The steroids help a lot but I hate taking them, near the end of the week of taking them I get very short tempered and little things set me off. It only lasts a few days but that's not me and I hate being like that. My buddy gave me a tens unit he used before his surgery, that helps too but wearing the unit with the wires is a hassle if your up and about or trying to do any work. Guess I don't have much to loose other then $20 to try the copper fit, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone has tried them and how they worked for you.
I've never used it personally but have friends that swear by copper bracelets and those types of products.
 

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