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I've been in the MS/Windows box since the beginning, well after Commodore went the way of the Do-Do. DOS from 2.11, Windows from "Windows" to Win10. I have fooled with Linux, years ago, and may well go back to it. Win10 leaves me flat, it's Windows for Dummies type stuff and too many controls have been removed. It's on this craptop and I rue the day I upgraded from Win7/64/Pro on it. My desktop is still Win7/64/Pro and will stay that way until support for it is gone, then maybe Linux of some flavor.

Somehow I think all the re-arranging and changes to Windows are just a marketing gimmick by MS to keep the certification pool growing and certification dollars flowing. XP was rock solid and other than an upgrade to a true 64 bit OS would be fine today with additional tweaks rather than total re-writes of the core. The one I'll always remember as a true clunker was Millennium Edition, a dud from day one.
Yeah, I got MCSE certified way back when you only had to take about 7 different exams to get it. I saw what they were doing, and never fell into the certification trap after that. Funny thing is, that was their highest certification at the time, and it made zero difference in getting a job. People hired me for my experience, and often had no clue what MCSE even meant.
 

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I've been in the MS/Windows box since the beginning, well after Commodore went the way of the Do-Do. DOS from 2.11, Windows from "Windows" to Win10. I have fooled with Linux, years ago, and may well go back to it. Win10 leaves me flat, it's Windows for Dummies type stuff and too many controls have been removed. It's on this craptop and I rue the day I upgraded from Win7/64/Pro on it. My desktop is still Win7/64/Pro and will stay that way until support for it is gone, then maybe Linux of some flavor.

Somehow I think all the re-arranging and changes to Windows are just a marketing gimmick by MS to keep the certification pool growing and certification dollars flowing. XP was rock solid and other than an upgrade to a true 64 bit OS would be fine today with additional tweaks rather than total re-writes of the core. The one I'll always remember as a true clunker was Millennium Edition, a dud from day one.

That's exactly what I have, 7/64/pro, first 64 os I've used. I was sick of the bottle neck slowing things down because I was limited on ram, now I have more ram then I'll ever use. I also went with Mike's suggestion of using a ssd drive for the C drive, that along with the ram really makes the computer fast, from pushing the On button to all programs loaded during bootup is FAST!

Win10 with it's apps is made to run fast even one a cheap little notebook, the little $125 RCA notebook I have runs as fast as my desktop described above and I have loaded full programs like Office on it so I have to give it to MS on that point. Personally I think that's where 10 should stay and there should be another compatible version for desktops and laptops that gives us back more control but that's never going to happen. Remember MS also builds these OS with features the government orders so it will make it much easier for them to keep tabs on us, like taking away the ability to shut down certain processes, logging and hiding the files (MS has a long history of that) explain to me why they would do that for any other reason....
 

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Yeah, I got MCSE certified way back when you only had to take about 7 different exams to get it. I saw what they were doing, and never fell into the certification trap after that. Funny thing is, that was their highest certification at the time, and it made zero difference in getting a job. People hired me for my experience, and often had no clue what MCSE even meant.
I got mine not long after it was introduced. I don't think it was 7 exams (4?). I had to hire a guy and my boss insisted he have a MCSE. I found the perfect candidate and joked about the cert but he was paranoid and insisted he go home to get his card (he forgot to bring it). I told him not to worry about it but he took a pic and emailed it to me.

I've never paid for a cert but I worked at a managed services company and they sent me out for a ton of certs. I was living in CA at the time and they would send me to Seattle, SF, San Jose, etc for training. I would guess about $10k worth back in '99-'01. It was important to the company to tell their customers that we were certified with xxx.
 

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I agree, all the big guys are decent. Who is statistically the best changes from month to month, but not significantly.

TBH, the most effective protection is good "user" discipline. Avoid the things that put you at risk.

AVs are only as good as the known signatures, new ones surface every day (called Zero Day threats) that can elude all of AVs until the threat becomes known andd they can add the sig to their package.
I've been out of the game for a long time, but if 10 is like XP then get a user to install a malicious driver into ring 1 and there isn't anything that can find it or save you.
 
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