Evolv-ing Thread

[TrollDragon]

It is "LostVape" they aren't the type of Company to release a budget mod.

No, they just use budget internals...

All the little button supports broke and a lot of the internal frame had cracked on my Drone. The janky 510 also leaked like a sieve with the press fit 90 degreee tube.

Thankfully there is JB-Weld and foam rubber.

 

[kiba]

So I have been wondering something & maybe you guys can help, I got in this argument with my brother, which for a while we've been arguing about his vaping, he never smoked or used any kind of tobacco product but picked up vaping. his vapimg has increased like crazy, like I've never seen before & he just does it everywhere, him & my brother in law (my sister's husband isn't as bad as him but when they're together they're constantly vaping) were literally doing it at the table during Xmas dinner, bc they were getting up so much my mom had told them just to do it at the table and blow it elsewhere. Thankfully he still uses drop-in coils & store bought juice so that keeps him from going, well more overboard than he already is, but (and yeah I was getting to a point lol) he has figured out how to add more nicotine to his juice via nude nic, wizard labs etc. When I saw him much he's dumping in there (no scale at all, just dumping it in via a juice dropper) coupled with how much he's been vaping, I got a little concerned and told him he should cut down bc, basically this is going nowhere good... Obviously he doesn't want to so I just suggested he cut down at least on the nic, I mean this is probably likethe equivalent of drinking 32 cups of coffee a day or something... Anyway the argument was that he can't etc etc. it's too hard.

So what are you guy's experience on lowering nic? Personally I switch nic levels all the time without noticing, I just recently went from 6 back down to 3, even the times when I had to quit completely for like a week to a few months, I hardly noticed anything bad, just cravings pretty much. My gf does the same thing. Idk if it's as bad as he's making it out to be I mean he doesn't need some kind of methadone detox to ween him off I said just cut it in half... w/e, but yeah has anybody experienced major issues like that, ever with trying to lower your nic.

No, they just use budget internals...

All the little button supports broke and a lot of the internal frame had cracked on my Drone. The janky 510 also leaked like a sieve with the press fit 90 degreee tube.

Thankfully there is JB-Weld and foam rubber.

Yeah lost vape makes one 2 of my favorite looking mods (mirage & therion/paranormal) but frankly they're squonkers are crap, I also have a therion bf'er that leaks.

 

[kiba]

Also, one more question... Is there any reason that locking ohms is bad on a dna besides the obvious, like does it prevent the chip from doing anything besides reading cold ohms?

 

[tiburonfirst]

has anybody experienced major issues like that, ever with trying to lower your nic.

i believe mike was stuck at 48 and possibly still is. not sure he ever tried to lower his nic content

 

[Steamer861]

No, they just use budget internals...

Par for the coarse China Made! Looks good but whats Hiding inside?
China Crap construction & materials
I never bought any of their mods so far, Even thou they have the DNA chip, there over priced for China Construction

I really like the look of that Mec It use's a 21700 it has a 9 mil bottle So Far I'm seeing $115 USD Not that Bad ? & it would look killer with a Gold Pulse 22 on top

I'm going to have to try real hard Not to buy one
At some point, cause it's a mec it will need to be stripped down for a good cleaning.
I could repair any thing substandard at that time

 

[awsum140]

If he's just dumping in nicotine via an eye dropper, if it was me, I'd try to get him to buy some SMALL syringes or a scale. He has no idea what the nicotine level actually is. It would have to get really high to be dangerous, probably over 75mg but don't take that as Gospel. I've never met anyone who took up vaping and wasn't a tobacco user. That, by itself, would seem to point to an easily addicted personality type. Somehow, that nicotine level has to get controlled so he at least knows where it's at.

We started at 18mg and over time, now that I DIY, have lowered down to 3mg. I usually lower it once a year and never mention anything to the Mrs. and she's never noticed anything. She does ask how much is in the mix and I tell her, honestly, but she never notices when it happens. I really can't say I've noticed much either but dropping at 1mg at a time may be the key to why I don't notice. Our liquid consumption has gone up but I attribute that to, shall we say, more efficient hardware.

 

[mikepetro]

Why not a direct replacement?
Kangertech TopTank Nano Tank
They even have the higher resistance coils 1.2 1.5
Replacement Vertical Kanger Subtank OCC Coil - V2

I was trying to find something about 22mm to match the Hanamodz better, and wean her into upgrading. Wasnt very successful this trip, but I havent given up yet, at least I got her on a DNA lipo mod now, and she likes it.

 

[mikepetro]

i believe mike was stuck at 48 and possibly still is. not sure he ever tried to lower his nic content

36mg.

Never tried to reduce, no intentions of it in the foreseeable future.

 

[mikepetro]

I agree with Awesum, at least try to get him to accurately quantify what he is doing for safety sake.

As for getting him to cut back, you are probably wasting your breath, most people I know have to come to those conclusions themselves, intradictions are seldom effective.

 

[Steamer861]

I was trying to find something about 22mm to match the Hanamodz better, and wean her into upgrading. Wasnt very successful this trip, but I havent given up yet, at least I got her on a DNA lipo mod now, and she likes it.

Seems now a days all Sub ohm tanks have low ohm builds.
You will be hard pressed to find any new Subohm Tanks at 1 ohm or above!

If your GF vapes 20 watts? these newer tanks just mite not cut it?

Why not just leave well enough Alone?

 

[mikepetro]

Seems now a days all Sub ohm tanks have low ohm builds.
You will be hard pressed to find any new Subohm Tanks at 1 ohm or above!

If your GF vapes 20 watts? these newer tanks just mite not cut it?

Why not just leave well enough Alone?

She uses a 0.25 ohm coil in her Nanotank, but in watts mode at 18-20w.

Tried ceramic coils but the lag was too annoying to her.

Took her to a B&M and she landed on an eLeaf Juli (because it was cute and stealthy), and a TFV12 Baby Prince. She actually like them both and is vaping them both at about 20w.

The Prince looks better on her Hannamodz DNA200, the Juli does look cute on her Nano Mod.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

Started at 36mg or 48mg (honestly don't remember) and at some point I started slowly weaning myself down. 18mg was as low as I (and anyone around me) could stand so that's where I'm at. Still MTL tootle puffing. I agree with Mike completely, waste of breath and friendship trying to talk someone into reducing but worthwhile to point out the need to at least quantify the amount of nicotine and or the consequences. I screwed up one time in the past when I was at 24mg and vaped some probably 90mg and it "turned me green". That is to say it made me sick at the stomach and nauseous. Not sure at what point one would run into trouble slowly ramping it up because the body might not give such clear indications one is running on the red line till worse things happen than getting sick to the stomach.

 

[Steamer861]

I started at 18mg, I cut it all the way down to 2 were I'm now. But the more I went down the more I increased my coil size, Power level & juice consumpion
Knowing what I know now, I should have stayed at 18 mg, & maybe I would still be satisfied with low wattage MTL? Live & Learn!

 

[Rossum]

Knowing what I know now, I should have stayed at 18 mg, & maybe I would still be satisfied with low wattage MTL? Live & Learn!

I am.

I started at 18, with occasional hits of 24. A few weeks in, I tried 12. Not satisfying. Mixed 12 and 18 half-and-half to get 15, which was OK, so I stuck with that for several years. Now I've spent the last year and a half weaning myself down to -- 13 currently -- 0.5 mg at a time.

The idea is: Reduce nic slowly enough to avoid increasing my juice consumption, and since I always use the same builds on mechanical squonkers, I can't just dial up the power to compensate either.

I accept that some people need high power and DTL vaping to put the stinkies down. I wasn't one of them. A Pro Tank was sufficient for me. And since low-power tootle-puffing got me off cigs, I think it would be the opposite of harm reduction to amp up the power, juice consumption, and depth of vapor inhalation just to be able to say that I've reduce my nic level.

 

[SlickWilly]

Why didn't he start with no nic juice? Can't understand why someone would want to willingly addict themselves to something like nic, one of the hardest addictions to give up. Water under the bridge now, sounds like he's strong headed, is going to do what he wants and isn't one to listen to advice or reason so there isn't much you can do, can't save someone who doesn't want saving. I'd but him some cheap DIY tools so he can adjust the mic levels accurately, maybe he'll use them but I have a feeling he won't, hence the reason I say buy cheap.

I vaped at 24 for a long time, reduced it to 18 but haven't had any luck going lower, each time I try I get cravings way to fast. I do chain vape, probably doesn't help in regards to cutting back on the nic, to me it doesn't matter, so long as I don't smoke, vaping is guilt free.

 

[BillW50]

Hi my name is Bill. And I am a nicoholic. I too started with 18mg. But nowadays I vape anything. Anything between 0mg to 24mg most of the time. But it is true, usually the less nic the more I vape of it. I never had any plans to slowly cut down on my nic. Why that is like cutting down on my caffeine.

 

[awsum140]

Bottom line is you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him take a bath. He will have to want to know what he's doing for anything to happen. My experience with "helping" folks quit tobacco showed me that unless they really want to, even 48mg isn't going to help them. The fact that he started vaping, then went to nicotine, then started upping the nicotine is mind boggling to me.

We've been cutting the level in an attempt to lower blood pressure since nicotine is a stimulant. I check my BP every morning when I get up and the funny thing is, at 3mg anyway, it doesn't seem to matter if I vape before I check my BP. The numbers stay around the same, either way. I suspect if I vaped 24mg it would show a marked increase though.

As an aside, the studies I've read show that nicotine and caffeine are about equally addictive. Problem is, some people find one or the other, or both, more addictive than others.

 

[BillW50]

Why didn't he start with no nic juice? Can't understand why someone would want to willingly addict themselves to something like nic, one of the hardest addictions to give up.

Actually I read a study (I can get the link if you want) that found nicotine itself isn't addictive. But they did find that nicotine combined with thousands of chemicals in cigarette smoke is highly addictive. So it is nicotine plus something else.

There was also a reporter (video is on youtube) who never smoked. But being curious about vaping, started to vape with nic. He planned on quitting after 6 months to do his story. And after vaping for 6 months he put it down and didn't miss it at all.

It is only us who had been addicted to cigarettes that are screwed. We need our nic.

 

[Steamer861]

I started at 18, with occasional hits of 24. A few weeks in, I tried 12. Not satisfying. Mixed 12 and 18 half-and-half to get 15, which was OK, so I stuck with that for several years. Now I've spent the last year and a half weaning myself down to -- 13 currently -- 0.5 mg at a time.

The funny thing is now, whats done is done! If I try to up my nic, I get dizzy & noshes
Bottom line I'm not smoking & thats good!
I would come away with a different strategy if I had it do over

 

[ShamrockPat]

at least I got her on a DNA lipo mod now

My better half is a mod destroyer. I rescued a little DNA75 from her, covered in juice and scars. She prefers a little Pico flailing around in her purse. Sturdy little beast, and still looks new at almost 2 years old. She's at about 13-20 watts on a single coil 22mm Serpent Mini, @~2-3mg/ml.

Never tried to reduce, no intentions of it

I started at 12mg/ml 2 ½ years ago, dropping by 2mg/ml each time as I needed. Now at 4mg/ml usually but I do have a couple high (10mg/ml) nic salt devices. I took 3 hits on an Aspire Breeze at 25mg/ml, got an immediate headache and had to sit down.