Evolv-ing Thread

[BillW50]

Windows 7 message alerts users to the end of security updates
If you didn't know you had until January 2020, you do now.
Anyone else getting "excited" about this? A free upgrade to Windows 10 is still doable, check around for that, Youtube, ect.

Funny, many years ago someone said he doesn't update his OS. I said what? You have to or a virus will find a way in. He said he doesn't get viruses. I didn't either, but I always updated. So I decided to see if there was any truth to this claim. So I had a dozen machines here that I use a lot and half I updated all of the time and half I decided I won't. Just to see what happens.

Guess what? The machines that didn't get updates ran just like they always did. Reliable and speedy and no viruses. The ones that got updates religiously got slower and slower at best. And at worst, drivers and applications started to break.

So today I'll update a fresh OS install. But if the machines has had lots of things installed on it since the OS was installed, I don't mess with it. Because now if you apply updates, you are messing with variables that were never tested together. And now you become the new beta tester.

Speaking about never updating, I still use a few Windows XP machines around here. Most of them are SP2 and not SP3. As SP2 was the best version of XP as far as I am concern. And believe it or not, I still run one Windows XP SP2 machine everyday Monday through Friday on the Internet.

 

[awsum140]

I miss XP-2. Problem with Windoohs10 is that they force the updates to "improve the experience". They've "improved" this craptop so well I feel like it's an 8086 instead of a 5th gen i5. There is a way to beat them though, just tell the update feature that you're on a metered connection. They won't update then.

I have hit a stumbling block in my quest to downgrade to Windoohs 10. The installation CD/DVD is quite old and needs the right drivers for the M.2 drive. After looking around I finally figured out what those drivers are, in Windows terms, the driver from Samsung is a .exe and the install didn't like that at all. So I copied the actual driver to a USB dongle. Next problem is the install is so dumb it doesn't see the USB dongle with the mouse pugged in.

Maybe I'll just install to the disk I keep the clone of the C drive on , then migrate to the M.2. It'll be faster that way, I think. That won't happen until tomorrow, out of time for today.

Did I mention I hate Windows AND computers?

 

[dwcraig1]

Well as far as I know you don't have to worry about updating Windows 10, it seems to do it for you whether you want it or not. I found no way of stopping it so I went back to Windows 7.
Edit: this was over a year ago.

 

[awsum140]

Go into control panel and change the update method to metered connection. That'll stop it, for the most part. You can also go into msconfig and disable updates for key components, like video drivers for example.

 

[dwcraig1]

Way back I added RAID drivers to an installation disc of XP, not sure of the program, maybe you can do the SSD drivers that way.
Add Drivers to Windows Installation ISO - Thomas Maurer
Edit: can the .inf files be extracted from the Samsung .exe?

 

[BillW50]

Way back I added RAID drivers to an installation disc of XP, not sure of the program, maybe you can do the SSD drivers that way.
Add Drivers to Windows Installation ISO - Thomas Maurer
Edit: can the .inf files be extracted from the Samsung .exe?

Oh yes! I remember having to do this for one machine. Windows install disk couldn't see the drive without a driver. Although funny, the BIOS could see it.

And at least with an XP install, I believe there was another option. The first few seconds when the Setup screen appears, you could press F6 or something. And if you did, it would tell you to insert the floppy that has the driver. Then it would add the driver and everything went fine. You could not use a flash drive, CD, or anything else, but just a floppy drive.

 

[dwcraig1]

Oh yes! I remember having to do this for one machine. Windows install disk couldn't see the drive without a driver. Although funny, the BIOS could see it.

And at least with an XP install, I believe there was another option. The first few seconds when the Setup screen appears, you could press F6 or something. And if you did, it would tell you to insert the floppy that has the driver. Then it would add the driver and everything went fine. You could not use a flash drive, CD, or anything else, but just a floppy drive.

Yep, that is how I did it before then next machine had no floppy.

 

[dwcraig1]

I'm thinking that maybe it was SATA controller drivers instead of Raid drivers, I'm getting too old to remember.

 

[BillW50]

I'm thinking that maybe it was SATA controller drivers instead of Raid drivers, I'm getting too old to remember.

Ah yes... I couldn't remember what it was but now you've mentioned SATA jogged my memory and yes that was it. I believe a Windows XP SP3 Install disk already had them, but XP SP2 or older didn't.

 

[awsum140]

I agreed with the SATA driver, dw, not the getting older part

I went through that same thing with XP and SATA drives. It was a little bit of a PITA but not all that bad. I already wacked the partition of the "clone" drive and re-partioned with GPT so I'll install there in the AM, then change the boot drive in the BIOS on the first reboot of the installation.

 

[sabre66]

All my systems at home run on NIX based systems with one exception, my CCTV runs on Win10(in a VM)because I could not find an equal or better NIX equivalent. I can do 95% of what a win user can do. For the other 5% there always a VM or my wifes laptop

 

[BillW50]

I tried that way sabre66 and I didn't like it. VM has two major flaws. One it taxes the machine to run more than one OS at once. And two, something in the VM won't work correctly. So I solved that problem and the dual boot problems too. I just run multiple computers like I am doing right now. One is running XP and the other is running Windows 8. They both share the same keyboard and monitor too. Far better than running a VM for me.

 

[sabre66]

I tried that way sabre66 and I didn't like it. VM has two major flaws. One it taxes the machine to run more than one OS at once. And two, something in the VM won't work correctly. So I solved that problem and the dual boot problems too. I just run multiple computers like I am doing right now. One is running XP and the other is running Windows 8. They both share the same keyboard and monitor too. Far better than running a VM for me.

I run a dedicated ESXi server single XEON haswell chip with 32GB of ECC ram. 8GB to my NAS 4 Disks raid 9TB. 2 of those TB are for the iSCSI for my Win 10 based CCTV server which also uses 8GB of ram. The other 16 GB of ram are used for various other VM'S. On this machine I have zero problems. THis machine also houses 4 other SSD hard drives in total with an option to add another 4. I also run a VM on my main desktop when I need to mount a usb quick for testing


My routing is done with Pfsense on a PC Engines APU2 based board. I also have 4 Ubiquity LR access points for my wifi but my guests dont know I have wifi.... f them there here to visit not play on their devices. Hmmmm maybe thats why no comes over.

Above is just scratching the surface to what is going on in my house.

Sorry for this miscellaneous rambling of a post I just love *NIX based systems............My wife says I need help...........

 

[BillW50]

I run a dedicated ESXi server single XEON haswell chip with 32GB of ECC ram. 8GB to my NAS 4 Disks raid 9TB. 2 of those TB are for the iSCSI for my Win 10 based CCTV server which also uses 8GB of ram. The other 16 GB of ram are used for various other VM'S. On this machine I have zero problems. THis machine also houses 4 other SSD hard drives in total with an option to add another 4. I also run a VM on my main desktop when I need to mount a usb quick for testing


My routing is done with Pfsense on a PC Engines APU2 based board. I also have 4 Ubiquity LR access points for my wifi but my guests dont know I have wifi.... f them there here to visit not play on their devices. Hmmmm maybe thats why no comes over.

Above is just scratching the surface to what is going on in my house.

Hahaha... I wish I had your problems.

 

[dwcraig1]

So I don't know how I got this far using my SXK BB, the up and down button were reversed.
EScribe says they were normal but I today swapped them.
The only time I would be using them as up and down would be to tell it that it's a new coil or and old one. Never seemed to have a problem until today. I had previously set the wattage in EScribe so other than new coil message I never used them.

 

[tiburonfirst]

 

[dwcraig1]

 

[mikepetro]

 

[dwcraig1]

Someone posting about this in the FT forums, what is this?
Sxk bb mini 30w bantam

 

[BillW50]

Its a mini BB. Uses the same Boro tanks and bridges.

• 55x55x24.5mm
• 5W-30W
• Fires down to 0.4 ohm