"Exclusive" RDAs, Reviewers, and the hype

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dc99

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I dont know that I would call that discrimination. That would be if they didnt let you in because of the color of you skin or sexual orientation and so on. Its just a private group. Im actually a member on several groups. Most of them you just have to ask. Its no different than costco or sams club
 

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I think it's all been covered here.
Getting a bit negative which is unusual here. I've enjoyed the positivity on ecf.
I don't know anything about nar mods and if they are exclusive as a sales technique or just trying to minimize disappointment due to small production.
As many have said. Just walk away if it's not for you. I do.
As for reviewers it's like many thing's in life. One person's heaven is another's hell.
We're circling people. Meeting adjourned. Lol.
 

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Here's a way to put it in vaping terms somewhat.
I make coils that nobody I've seen so far makes. I've had people ask me to sell them some coils and I've declined. I have given alot of my coils to people that I wanted to give them to. It boils down to how the supplier determines they want to distribute their products. If I wanted to sell my coils It's my decision who to sell them to and for how much. It's also my decision to put whatever requirements there needs to be to purchase those coils from me. They are my coils and I will do with them as I please. This is still the land of the free and the home of the brave.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!
 

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This really isn’t an issue. If it was the only rda’s available and I had to jump through a bunch of hoops to get one I’d have a problem with it. There is plenty of other options, some of which that are better, available for purchase with a click of the button. If the makers of these rda’s want to sell their wares through a secret group then more power to them. If you don’t like it you don’t have to deal with them. Being they ain’t the only game in town makes it simple, don’t like the way they do business, don’t deal with them. Crisis averted
 
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When it comes to Todd I don't watch the idiot. He only knows very little of what he's actually talking about. As far as anyone else or anything else I'm against banning just about anything. I don't care what is on Youtube or social media. I don't care what's on television. There's an off button if I choose to use it. I have vape gear ranging from cheap clones to high end mech mods. I purchased what I wanted to buy. I'm smart enough to make my own decisions and I take responsibility for those decisions good or bad. The bottom line is there are ALOT of good reviewers out there for just about any product. Pick the reviewers you like and don't bother with the idiots you don't. Also don't be afraid to look at a few new reviewers. Some of them are pretty good.
If someone wants to spend their money on extremely expensive products more power to them. It's their money. As long as it helps you to quit smoking I really don't care what you prefer to vape on.

P.S. It doesn't matter if you don't like country clubs Anna you are one classy lady.
i will agree with you there, i know todd he's a bit of a tosser, nice enough guy but he's still abit of a
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if you know what smarmy means that word was made just for him :D
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he's on here too,, found him the other week under a random name

hi mark :D

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@Don29palms post up a photo of the coils you make im intrigued now mate :)
 
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Personally, I would never spend more than 50 bucks on an RDA today. I have in the past, but there are so many affordable options that I now see no need to.

Having said that, I see no harm in Todd reviewing anything he wishes to review. I'll may never buy one, certainly not retail, but I may want to watch a review...and if I don't like the item or the sales model or price, I would never attack the reviewer.
 

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@Mark Todd Just replying here as an opportunity to make a suggestion. It would be helpful if you showed atomizers completely disassembled, including o-rings and insulators and blocks. Have it completely disassembled then start the camera rolling and reassemble it. It's really a shame that most reviewers don't do it.

As far as what you do or don't review, I really don't care. If something is exclusive and secretive then I just move on. If it is any good then it will probably get cloned and sell for 1/10th of the price shipped directly from China. I suspect the cloners may be the reason that some of these custom makers are so secretive.
 

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    @Mark Todd Just replying here as an opportunity to make a suggestion. It would be helpful if you showed atomizers completely disassembled, including o-rings and insulators and blocks. Have it completely disassembled then start the camera rolling and reassemble it. It's really a shame that most reviewers don't do it.

    Fair comment and hands in the air, unless it is something that has a new design I will not do it. It is without a doubt laziness on my part but so many designs are the same old thing.

    That's not an excuse and you are quite right with your comment, it is something that should be done.
     

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    @Mark Todd Just replying here as an opportunity to make a suggestion. It would be helpful if you showed atomizers completely disassembled, including o-rings and insulators and blocks. Have it completely disassembled then start the camera rolling and reassemble it. It's really a shame that most reviewers don't do it.

    As far as what you do or don't review, I really don't care. If something is exclusive and secretive then I just move on. If it is any good then it will probably get cloned and sell for 1/10th of the price shipped directly from China. I suspect the cloners may be the reason that some of these custom makers are so secretive.
    you would be better asking @Don29palms who to ask for help he says Todd knows little about vaping he might point u to a better source for info :D
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    I don't care about exclusive products, as I'm not jumping through hoops to give anyone my money - for anything.

    But- I'm still grinning about being "called on nicely." : Stop with the cult of these things. THIS NEEDS TO STOP!!!

    Maybe after the proclamation of long love, one would get a different response with something along the lines of: "Another great review, but for myself, because I value your opinion and reviews, I'd rather you focus on more attainable products." Instead of shouting demands without explanation. Maybe.


     

    qorax

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    I don't know Don. Is he a Youtuber? My suggestion is for all Youtubers. Showing the atomizer completely disassembled is important to appreciate the design and construction.
    As disassembled as it can be done, by the user, easily, right? Well, most reviewers, including @Mark Todd, do that already, don't they?
     

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    Curious, did you pay Todd for his review of the exclusive product? These reviewers can choose to review whatever they want and you can choose not to watch, for me it is as easy as that. i dont know about y'all but i do not like being told what to do and I would never presume to tell someone else how or what they should do. Thats my .02 for whats it worth and guess what yall can ignore that as well.
     

    smoked25years

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    As disassembled as it can be done, by the user, easily, right? Well, most reviewers, including @Mark Todd, do that already, don't they?

    Nope. Most treat the deck as if it was glued together. Remove the 510 pin, remove the positive block and insulator, etc.

    I enjoyed your review of the 2019 Lite but I would have enjoyed it more if you did a close up like this.

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    Just using it as an example. The video is not in English and I don't understand what he's saying. I think it's a clone, not authentic. And he took way too long. Reassembly shouldn't take more than a minute or two of video, hopefully. Just have it disassembled already and then start the camera rolling and reassemble it.
     

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    Nope. Most treat the deck as if it was glued together. Remove the 510 pin, remove the positive block and insulator, etc.

    I enjoyed your review of the 2019 Lite but I would have enjoyed it more if you did a close up like this.

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    Just using it as an example. The video is not in English and I don't understand what he's saying. I think it's a clone, not authentic. And he took way too long. Reassembly shouldn't take more than a minute or two of video, hopefully. Just have it disassembled already and then start the camera rolling and reassemble it.

    I understand your point and for new and very different construction it makes sense. But like the screenshot you show, that takes time and not everyone can commit an hour to a review for a product they likely wouldn't even get ( as the review shown was a 1:08 hour video). There will always be a compromise between the level of completeness that a review and reviewer can cover and the amount of time a viewer may be willing to invest their time in. I gave up on Phil who is a very good reviewer a long time ago for just that reason. I can't sit through a video as long as a box office film.
     

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    I understand your point and for new and very different construction it makes sense. But like the screenshot you show, that takes time and not everyone can commit an hour to a review for a product they likely wouldn't even get ( as the review shown was a 1:08 hour video). There will always be a compromise between the level of completeness that a review and reviewer can cover and the amount of time a viewer may be willing to invest their time in. I gave up on Phil who is a very good reviewer a long time ago for just that reason. I can't sit through a video as long as a box office film.

    It is a suggestion. People have different interests. For me, 90% or more of the length of most reviews is useless to me. I want to see what isn't shown in ad copy. Showing all of the parts of an atomizer is very important to appreciating the design and construction.

    Phil wastes a LOT of time. I've seen him talking about his shirt or what he watched on TV the previous night. I even saw one video in which he left the camera rolling while he searched his computer for the thumbs up and thumbs down photos so that he could overlay them on the video. It is ridiculous that he didn't edit that out.
     
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    mac-nutty

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    I understand your point and for new and very different construction it makes sense. But like the screenshot you show, that takes time and not everyone can commit an hour to a review for a product they likely wouldn't even get ( as the review shown was a 1:08 hour video). There will always be a compromise between the level of completeness that a review and reviewer can cover and the amount of time a viewer may be willing to invest their time in. I gave up on Phil who is a very good reviewer a long time ago for just that reason. I can't sit through a video as long as a box office film.
    a lot of reviewers don't go into details in the videos it's annoying but there are more reviews on what your looking for on YT ,blogs etc at least they all point out what they like and don't like about a product

    me favourite Youtubers

    ralfie from knucklehead vapes love his stuff mostly mech vids plus for that

    geekyvapes top bloke

    zophie vapes she's a honey and as mad as me self,, extra extra points for that lol ;)

    the guy from lochgelly vape88? Vape68? He's on here somewhere

    jai haze although we wouldn't get on if we meet ;) lol

    Todd yeah good guy but still a fanie lol

    Scottish Vic always liked his videos top guy

    there are more il edit later ;)
     
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