Experienced Vapers: What would setup would YOU suggest to a new vaper?
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Welcome Kiwi, Holden, and Redshift!
I loved my MVP2.0s as a solid mod. I've since upgraded (a number of times
), and if I had to start all over again, I'd love to start with an MVP30W or an iStick 30 or 50. I resurrected my Nautilus tanks after a few months off. I rotate through some Kanger Protank2s as well (but only because I learned to rebuild my EVOD heads)
I personally think the Subtank series might be a little much for a new vaper. It tends to be a very airy draw (yes, you can close it up quite a bit, but it just doesn't "feel" right with that tank), and though I like that now, I'm not so sure I would have liked it when I first started (not including my dabble with cigalikes five years ago) 14 months ago.
Red, LOVE me some Castle Long Nice call on that setup for your buddy!
I haven't tried the eleaf tanks, but I see GREAT comments on them. Moderately simple, moderately inexpensive - that's what's worked for me.
I loved my MVP2.0s as a solid mod. I've since upgraded (a number of times
), and if I had to start all over again, I'd love to start with an MVP30W or an iStick 30 or 50. I resurrected my Nautilus tanks after a few months off. I rotate through some Kanger Protank2s as well (but only because I learned to rebuild my EVOD heads)I personally think the Subtank series might be a little much for a new vaper. It tends to be a very airy draw (yes, you can close it up quite a bit, but it just doesn't "feel" right with that tank), and though I like that now, I'm not so sure I would have liked it when I first started (not including my dabble with cigalikes five years ago) 14 months ago.
Red, LOVE me some Castle Long
Nice call on that setup for your buddy!I haven't tried the eleaf tanks, but I see GREAT comments on them. Moderately simple, moderately inexpensive - that's what's worked for me.
I think your ideas are fine. Maybe a VV3 ( more functions) instead of the Spinner. Between the little box mods killing other PV sales and the FDA, there are alot of inexpensive starter kits for anyone.
I'm a cartomiser guy, but they don't seem to work with newcomers well. I guess whatever the newest and best clearomiser is at the time. I'm sure it won't leak or gurgle or dry hit. It's a shame tho that most are quite an investment compared to a cartomiser.
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Problem with being an "experienced vaper" is that one may be clueless as to what is good for beginners.
Sucks trying not to sound like a douche while explaining why it would be no good "just buying what I'm using".
Sucks trying not to sound like a douche while explaining why it would be no good "just buying what I'm using".
You can always advise based on a person's lung condition. I'll never be able to sub ohm most likely because of my COPD. A regulated mod and several clearos are fine for me. Most people quitting a long term smoking habit would probably need a beginning phase of mouth to lung vaping/equipment. And most beginners don't want to rebuild coils right off the bat. Some do, but probably most don't, and talking about it scares us away.
Do you think that if 20 newcomers were asked nowadays for a good starter kit that it'd be that much different than a more experienced vaper would recommend ?
I recommended the istick 50 and the aspire atlantis to my Co workers. All 3 of them this was there first setup and they love it. I spent tons of money upgrading step by step. Wish I had someone tell me to just buy the good stuff first and not waste money.
I've seen a lot of people recommend subtanks to new people just starting out. I'm so glad no one advised me that way!
I think a boring ol' 3.7volt ego is a good start. Allows the newcomer to focus on the topper and juice.
Puff, while I am not trying to get you to do something you don't want to I thought I would let you know, I have COPD, have for years now, and I have asthma. When I started vaping there were times I couldn't take the vapor into my lungs at all, now I can lung hit and even do subohm if I choose to.
There has been some research lately that suggests vaping can actually help asthmatics and maybe even revers some of the damage we have doneIJERPH | Free Full-Text | Effect of Smoking Abstinence and Reduction in Asthmatic Smokers Switching to Electronic Cigarettes: Evidence for Harm Reversal
I have been vaping for less than, but the better part of a year. I've answered several questions about vaporizing in general, but if someone was to ask me specific hardware questions, I would recommend an eGo Clearomizer rig. That's what I started on, what I use now (with a slightly different tank, but its still a clearo), and what I would be able to talk best about. I haven't used any other hardware, so I won't talk about it.
Back in the day, I would always recommend a Kanger Evod kit as simple and reliable...and you know, I think I still would.
Seems to me that a smoker, especially a long term smoker, might be a bit intimidated by a box shaped mode and lots of coil winding. Even after 2 1/2 years, I've never been able to get accustomed to the box shape. I do love me some Kayfuns tho.
Everyone is going to be different. The key is to get started, learn and progress at your own pace. But by all means, get started on something...anything. The sooner the better.
Seems to me that a smoker, especially a long term smoker, might be a bit intimidated by a box shaped mode and lots of coil winding. Even after 2 1/2 years, I've never been able to get accustomed to the box shape. I do love me some Kayfuns tho.
Everyone is going to be different. The key is to get started, learn and progress at your own pace. But by all means, get started on something...anything. The sooner the better.
I'm a fairly new vapor (2mths). I started with G6 then moved to evod within 2 wks. I wish I listened to the advice on here and saved money skipping the cigs a likes but not knowing any vapors to help me I was scared with all the tanks juice etc. I would suggest an evod starter kit(I like them better than ego) but would highly recommend a top coil clearo(best $3 I spent) If I had started with the evod tank I wouldn't have quit, the draw was much too airy. My I stick 50 is in the mail w my nautilus mini. We shall see if all the hype is worth it. If not the iclear and t2 w evods are satisfying enough to keep me off analogs.
Although I'm a newb, I'm having good sucess with this simple setup. iStick 30w with Kanger Mini. Simple, easy, no fuss, just vape. Can rebuild the deck in your spare time. I'm planning on getting multiple Mini tanks for various flavors... as the finances allows.
If they started on cigalikes, they're probably most interested in extended battery life at first so I'd suggest a 15-30w regulated box mod with a single user-replaceable battery. Most are running about $1 per watt nowadays so it seems cheaper than buying three toss-away spinners and the electronics in boxes usually make it past 500 recharges. Pt3 is only a few bucks and uses the same coils as an AT, but I'd encourage them to try non-Kanger tanks, clearos, even carto-tanks and RTAs.
If they're smoker/never-vapers looking at harm reduction, I'll steer them to a plug-and-play carto/tanko cigalike designed for mouth-inhales that delivers a higher-level of nicotine without a lot of vapor, and that is easy to explain to the grandkids and the boss. A $20-30 setup leaves room for them to play with nic levels and flavors to find what works to break the analog bond and to try out some cheap BC vs TC clearos as they explore their vaping style. If they stay with vaping more than a few weeks (and many don't) then it's on to battery life. And if they do bail on vaping, there's no hard feelings afterward for my recommending they spend the price of a carton of smokes, as opposed to recommending they spend $300 out of the starting gate on something they find they won't use, either because they regress to cigarettes or advance to not breathing in any foreign substance at all.
If they're smoker/never-vapers looking at harm reduction, I'll steer them to a plug-and-play carto/tanko cigalike designed for mouth-inhales that delivers a higher-level of nicotine without a lot of vapor, and that is easy to explain to the grandkids and the boss. A $20-30 setup leaves room for them to play with nic levels and flavors to find what works to break the analog bond and to try out some cheap BC vs TC clearos as they explore their vaping style. If they stay with vaping more than a few weeks (and many don't) then it's on to battery life. And if they do bail on vaping, there's no hard feelings afterward for my recommending they spend the price of a carton of smokes, as opposed to recommending they spend $300 out of the starting gate on something they find they won't use, either because they regress to cigarettes or advance to not breathing in any foreign substance at all.
I always advise friends to get the MVP2 with a nautilus aspire. It's just a solid, reliable device. The MVP 3.0's 30W seems too advanced and I'm always afraid they'll end up with burnt coils.
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