expert advice from tank systems towards RBA and ohms

[Raccoon_Canada]

Hello again everyone

i have posted this in newbie area because i am still learning and it seems a lot of experts hung out here
you have seen me asking about tanks before and what mods i should get, and so far i have followed every advice and i love it and thank you. this is gonna be a bit of read but i will try to put everything on 1 page and i hope to get good advices as always and this time around i need a long explanations

ok so lets bring everyone up to speed, i have asked about the tanks before what should i get i have picked aspire nautilus and 2 kanger aero tanks. love them both very good tanks at what they do. so i have played with them and enjoy them...i also have tons of aspire mini vivi tanks and big tanks they are also good at what the do, but nautilus and aero are very good ones. but.......... i have noticed something and i think it's time to get to RBA rebuilding ones, as much as i dont want to go to that road i think i have to, and here is why and what i notice..... nautilus vapes very nice , nice thick creamy vape very good taste, same with kanger but...... in a morning i want to have a nice strong harsh vape especialy with my coffee, so i have this old pro tank no name brand and i think the coil in it is i think 1.8 or 1.6 ohm in that tank when i put my good juice its nice and harsh mmmmm very good hits a harsh ones. so i thought putting same juice in my aspire one or kanger i get better harsher hits right? wrong the taste that i love especialy the harsh hits become mellow tasty full of flavour but mild smooth creamy, and i was ohhh no no no its my only 18mg nicotine and the harshnes is gone so i put it back in to my old tank with a coil 1.6 and the harshness is back.... now i love creamy smooth and full of flavour vapes i do... especialy with fruits flavours, but... in the mornings i love to get hit hard and fast with the harsh and full of flavour hits then have my coffee and again with a nice harsh taste. but i only like to have harsh taste in a mornings and only maybe for 2 hours sometimes i like it in evenings too while relaxing but not all the time. when i am done with harshnes hits i go back to kanger or aspire and put a nice strawberry taste that is nice and smooth mild and tasty. but sometimes i need that harsh hits. first i thought it was a nic level, we all know if nic level is higher it's more peppery , i thought maybe that was it but after putting it in my new tanks they become mild and smooth so no, it wasnt nic level it wasnt a juice it must of been the ohms.

now if thats the case if lover the ohms the coil is hotter and taste becomes harsher then i have to get lower ohms and to get to lower ones maybe 1.2 ohms i need to be rebuilding coils right?

so you got my story, you know what i like, i have tested 2 brand new tanks high end ones that perform beautifully, and both tanks run at 2.0 ohms and the old tank runs at 1.6 i think or 1.8 so got to be the ohms right? anyone follow me so far?

so for me to get that nice flavorful but harsh taste and feeling i need to get lower ohms and the lower the ohms more flavour i guess right?

so if i am correct so far then i am not as stupid as i thought i was

i am not good in watts votage or omhs they confuse me the hell out of me ahahaaaha so thats why i said before i dont want to rebuild it but with my tastes and the way i can be picky i think my destiny is to be rebuilding right?

so i was looking at kayfun light or plus if i go with that road i want a good tank as always a quality is my thing.

so if i am rite so far and i do need to be rebuilding to have the versality of harsh and smooth when i wanted, becouse the new tanks dont do the harsh way they are very good and snooth and flavorful but i need sometimes the nasty and harsh feeling

so if i need to be rebuilding here is where i need a very lamer terms very child like explonations i know so far the lower the ohm the coil becomes more hotter quickly the higher the ohms the coils burns slowly and steady right?

so nice and creamy full of vapor full of flavor and mild taste it sits at 2 ohms thats what aspire and kanger gives me........ for a harsh nasty hits that you cant breath its lower ohms right?

ok....what product is the quality made kayfun? or some other type of RBA company? now what should i get wick? i hear cotton is best, also the wire there is a 25 guage or 32 guage i really have no idea what that means so i am lost with the items to get if i truly need to go with rebuilding. there is a lot of things included with rebuilding diffrenbt size why they cant just make all the sizes the same i also will need a meter i know that so far

so bottom line if you read this and i am so far rite with my theory let me know everything i need and why i also saw the kayfun has a tank so i do like that so besicly its the coil rebuilding to get where i want to be in the mornings? i think i know 7 wraps it gives 2 ohms right or so? i saw zen video how he does coils looked good but i dont want to get a provari RBA kayfun looks nicer hmmm what else i guess that it for my theory i lost myself already bt i hope you know what i mean. so if anyone find their selfs in same predictiment and they leanred a lot please teach me and i will try to follow

Thank you for your time and will see what advices be laydown for me

 

[Dakota Jim]

I have a question for you that was not mentioned in your post

What kind of device are you using for a battery? an ego style? variable voltage or wattage? a mech?

basically all that is happening with your 1.6 ohm coil compared to your 2 ohm coils is that the wattage is changing if you are using a fixed voltage battery (ie: a regular ego) and the fact that your knock off protank has a different airflow which will also affect harshness and throat hit.

ok - with that being said if you are going to get into RBA's you are going to need to get an APV (advanced personal vaporizer) that will display ohms and will also be VV and more than likely VW also - which will allow you to dial up the voltage or wattage on any of your tanks to affect throat hit (harshness)

I really do like the way the kayfun lite+ works - it is easy to build, easy to clean but can be a pain to fill (little screw is easy to drop or you can deal with minor flooding (and little mess) if you top fill it)

just my 2 cents

 

[Raccoon_Canada]

I have a question for you that was not mentioned in your post

What kind of device are you using for a battery? an ego style? variable voltage or wattage? a mech?

basically all that is happening with your 1.6 ohm coil compared to your 2 ohm coils is that the wattage is changing if you are using a fixed voltage battery (ie: a regular ego) and the fact that your knock off protank has a different airflow which will also affect harshness and throat hit.

ok - with that being said if you are going to get into RBA's you are going to need to get an APV (advanced personal vaporizer) that will display ohms and will also be VV and more than likely VW also - which will allow you to dial up the voltage or wattage on any of your tanks to affect throat hit (harshness)

I really do like the way the kayfun lite+ works - it is easy to build, easy to clean but can be a pain to fill (little screw is easy to drop or you can deal with minor flooding (and little mess) if you top fill it)

just my 2 cents

i have zmaxV5 i have smoktech SID and also itaste mvp 2.0 and just ordered itaste vtr and have provari on a way,
i vape at 3.7 volts or 7 watts i use 1.8 or 2 ohms hmmm i have aero tanks and aspire nuatilus . and only 1 tank pro tank syle with a 1.6 ohms gives me a harsh taste witch i love

 

[jayyco]

Ok, well first off, the lower the ohms the hotter the coils will burn and because of that you get more vapor. When you get more vapor, yes there is more flavor but if you go to lower in ohms there is a chance your juice can burn easier, and when I mean burn you will get the flavor with a slight burnt taste. And yes cotton will give you hands down the best flavor, and make sure you get organic cotton. It taste perfect right out the bag and there is no need for boiling because there are no pesticides or any other chemicals in it beside the hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) to bleach the cotton which essentially, when heated, breaks down to H2O (water) and O (oxygen) so it is pretty safe. The gauge size of the wire is how thick it is, the higher in size, the thinner it is. For example, a 25 gauge wire is much thicker than a 32 gauge wire. The thicker the wire the lower the resistance, which comes to your other question. Wrapping your wires to get a desired ohm depends on two things, the size gauge of the wire, and what your wrapping it around. Now if you had the 26 gauge wire to get a 1.2 ohm you would need to wrap it around a 1/16 drill bit about 16 times. And with a 32 gauge wire you would wrap it around a 1/16 drill bit only 5 times. The Kayfun is an excellent rba for flavor production, one of the best actually. I would also look into the Russian rba too, but I would recommend a Kayfun. Good luck, hope this helped!

 

[Raccoon_Canada]

i am looking of more of a thing what i really need to get going i am 80% of ordering kayfun but i dont wana be stuck with wrong supplyes . and if i can replicate a harsh feeling easy in a kayfun then i am ready to order just not sure what to order my mornings have to be harsh and nasty later in a day i use my kangers and aspires for a creamy mild taste

 

[jayyco]

i am looking of more of a thing what i really need to get going i am 80% of ordering kayfun but i dont wana be stuck with wrong supplyes . and if i can replicate a harsh feeling easy in a kayfun then i am ready to order just not sure what to order my mornings have to be harsh and nasty later in a day i use my kangers and aspires for a creamy mild taste

It will forsure be harsh, especially at a 1.2 ohm coil. These are the supplies you need:
With the kayfun-
•I would order new wire so you know the size, preferably, 28 gauge wire
•organic cotton from your local drug store
•drill bits (usually just in garage)
•torch, or lighter (to burn your wire to get the springy-ness out of it so it will be easier to work with)
•screwdriver
•atomizer ohm reader or multimeter

This would be your list of materials.

 

[Dconnor]

+1 above for supplies. If it were me, I would try a simple RDA to get my feet wet building for less $$.
You can adjust harshness (or what some call throat hit) on a rebuildable by how you build it. IE resistance, wick, coil height etc. I think these will get you where you want to go.
If you are only going to use it in the morning, you will be using a lot of juice to fill a Kayfun for a limited amount of time. Not sure how much juice you vape but for me a tankful would last a week or two with that use.
I would recommend an IGO-L or W to start. You drip a few drops and will get 8 or 10 puffs and drip again. They run around $20 and are really easy to learn to build on.
If you find you like them, you can get a Kayfun style for on the go.

 

[*deleon517*]

also keep in mind that the zmax and sid will be capped at 1.2ohm's. since you have a few devices and a few tanks that give you different results why dont you pair the harsher tank with one device and use that. I rotate between 5-7 devices each day. Each device and topper has a different purpose. I dont own a kfl or kf+ since I prefer to drip but I always recommend toppers that have air flow control. If one of those options has that its nice because the smaller the air flow the harsher the draw can become, the larger the air flow the smoother the vape can be. Lastly Since your not sure on building why not start out trying to rebuild what you have before dumping money on a new topper.

 

[Raccoon_Canada]

so my theory was rite? the hit throat comes from lower omhs? ok i am sold ok so screwdrivers cotton wire lighter and meter, i want to go with kayfun becouse for few reasons people say it one of the best it has a tank, and it look nice so i am almost there 95% need to make my mind to be 100% i am just worried a bit i be stuck but i guess i go feet first, dont want to go with lower end models if i am gonna do this i want it do it right i love my aspire nuatilus and kanger but i feel i am missing that harsh throat hit and with RBA i can have that right? so i guess its a RBA time thx guys i wonder what else will i find out while on a journey into RBA a bit scared but o well most likely have to learn a lot of wrapping coils and just hands on expiriance i guess

 

[Raccoon_Canada]

also keep in mind that the zmax and sid will be capped at 1.2ohm's. since you have a few devices and a few tanks that give you different results why dont you pair the harsher tank with one device and use that. I rotate between 5-7 devices each day. Each device and topper has a different purpose. I dont own a kfl or kf+ since I prefer to drip but I always recommend toppers that have air flow control. If one of those options has that its nice because the smaller the air flow the harsher the draw can become, the larger the air flow the smoother the vape can be. Lastly Since your not sure on building why not start out trying to rebuild what you have before dumping money on a new topper.

i have tested my juices in all tanks and on all the mods , i figure out it was the ohms need lower ohms well i like the way the kayfun looks i am a gadget guy... i was looking at kayfun before but i am afraid of it but have to just hope the banch and do it, if i be rebuilding i want to rebuild it in style):

Thank you everyone for the help and figureing my theory was right so if i get to replicate the low ohms i can do same with reverse i guess with higher ones? this is gonna sure be fun ahhaah not... but will try my best always best forum and people with best advices and support thank you all

P.S the mods i have , if i go for lower ohms i know i have to have a diffrent mod and i saw DNA 30 or 20 is good for low ohms and also wont mind having one

 

[Raccoon_Canada]

It will forsure be harsh, especially at a 1.2 ohm coil. These are the supplies you need:
With the kayfun-
•I would order new wire so you know the size, preferably, 28 gauge wire
•organic cotton from your local drug store
•drill bits (usually just in garage)
•torch, or lighter (to burn your wire to get the springy-ness out of it so it will be easier to work with)
•screwdriver
•atomizer ohm reader or multimeter

This would be your list of materials.

thank you so much i thought it be bigger list, this isnt so bad yet