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evilfrog

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What am i looking for? well i do like my mods, but i know there is better ones out there, the provari that i looked at and read the reviews is what i am looking for well build solid and someone said it don't drop the voltage its constant so that's always good. plus a good tank ibtanks are nice and also aspire airflow looks good. but i am also looking for style like the Caravela. i know everyone has their preference, mine is style good looking, durability long lasting and also the status that it brings PLUS good taste and good vape. ( I'M NOT A CLOUD CHASER, but good vape and taste must ) i know there is tons out there and i know it wont be my last buy, its like buying a car , you get what you pay for right? so thats why money is not a problem, because i want to buy something good even if it means to spent a bit more:)

Once again thank you so much for the veteran coming out and landing a hand and good info :)

There's lots of styles out there for regulated mods. Brass Nutz, Picolibri, Wapari, Gepetto, Lukkos, Sunbox, Mamu Mods, Billet Box, etc.. I'd recommend you keep researching until you find something in the style you want.
The same goes for tanks. You can go for an atty tank like the Amp Tank, Vela Latina, Drip Body, Grail, etc... or a carto tank by a high end modder like Siam or Kir Fanis. Performance wise, rebuildables are best, but you can still get a good vape without them.

With money not being a problem you could also consider contacting modders to get something custom made.

High end gear tends to exploit niche markets and do one or two things extraordinarily well and ignore everything else, so it's not easy to recommend something to someone who's tastes still have time to change and expand... Provari is more of a Jeep then Ferrari - it will always get you there, but it's ugly(imo) and it's limited. Svoemestro's devices are better looking but still limited and very long...
Titanium Wizard Evolved might be worth looking at. It's tiny and pretty good looking.
 

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Know what you mean.
I have one of these on my wishlist $6 (waiting for prior order to arrive first):
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I can has linky pweez :D

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How much does one Sophia cost? Last I heard they were quite expensive compared to a $2 carto.

Sometimes, Bad, it's all about flavor and vapor. Sometimes, you can build a coil and use materials that cannot be mass produced efficiently, and blow the socks off of the choices. Sometimes, a coil and wick, without filler material is vastly superior to a tube with filler material. Sometimes, Bad, after vaping such setups, you can then taste that filler material, and it takes away from flavor you're looking for. Just sayin', my friend, sometimes....
 

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You didn't answer my question, Bill. How much? :p

About $95 shipped to U.S. Maybe $80 shipped from the U.S. Perhaps a bit less with shopping.

I would hope that you wouldn't try to compare an RBA like the Sophia to a consumable like the Ikenvape carto. Two different things. But you know this. Are you thinking about one?
 
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LOL....Yes, the tankomizers are finally getting air flow control, and that's half the battle. I know what you mean about small things, these old eyes, and arthritic fingers. Nevertheless, I did build my own coil machine that does the trick:

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But these are very easy to do:



And the cotton makes all the difference. Some magnification and you have easy peazy coils. Even the veterans are using this now, because in many ways it's superior to a hand wrapped coil. Anyway, sorry OP, no hijack intended! Best!


Oh my... Bill, you have a workshop. You're a pro.

A wingnut? :p

Thanks, dear!

Super_X_drifter does great videos on micro-coiling and REO's (that's not Bill in the video ;-) )! That video has one of those nifty tools ordered and delivering to me today!
 

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I have an iTaste VTR with a few heads, but I need some help with the entire Variable Voltage/Wattage end of things. Like can someone break it down in Super lamiens terms?
Variable voltage allows us to change the amount of voltage sent to a coil of a given resistance measured in ohms. The resistance among all the different coils varies quite a bit so with a variable voltage device, you would have to manually adjust your voltage if you change to a coil of a different resistance to keep it in your "sweet spot" which is your preferred setting with that particular coil. Let's say for instance that you are using a 1.8 ohm coil set at 3.6 volts. That's roughly 7 watts. That would make 7 watts your "sweet spot" in this case. Eventually your coil will need to be replaced and the only one you have laying around is 2.4 ohms. To achieve your 7 watt "sweet spot" you would have to use an Ohm's Law calculator to figure out you need to adjust your voltage up to 4.1 volts. Basically, watts is the amount of heat your coil is generating. In a variable wattage/power device, you set the device to your desired "sweet spot", 7 watts in this example, and it will do the math for you to keep the voltage where it needs to be to provide the same amount of heat.
 

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Super_X_drifter does great videos on micro-coiling and REO's (that's not Bill in the video ;-) )! That video has one of those nifty tools ordered and delivering to me today!

Not it's not me, LOL. Don't have any YouTube videos out there, nor do I plan to! Yes, Super X does a great job, and I follow his thread on micro coils. But, anyways, congrats on the new coiler. Hope it works out for you. Please share pictures!!
 

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I have an iTaste VTR with a few heads, but I need some help with the entire Variable Voltage/Wattage end of things. Like can someone break it down in Super lamiens terms?

Here you go:

Disclaimer: This is the most simplistic explanation and is addressed to new vapers mostly or vapers who are happy within the recommended "just right" power zone (4.5-8 watts). If you are using dual coil atomizers or are interested in high wattage vaping, it's a different conversation altogether. :) You will also have to understand the concept of amp limits and how it applies to high power vaping. In short, dual coil atties consist of two coils configured in parallel, which means that a 2.1Ω atty is really two 4.2Ω coils--so calculate your wattage based on the 4.2Ω number--not 2.1Ω--roughly. To make it simpler--dual coil atties require more wattage than singles, but not quite twice as much. They produce more vapor due to increased surface. When in doubt--start low and adjust up as needed.

Ohm's Law as it pertains to vaping is really not that complicated--and it's very useful when you want to know what you're doing.

Voltage and wattage are often misunderstood by new vapers. Wattage is the power (heat, sweet spot) that your PV (battery and atomizer) generates. Wattage = Voltage (of your battery) squared divided by Resistance (Ω) of your atomizer [P=V[SUP]2[/SUP]/R]. If you're not good at math, don't worry, use this easy calculator:

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

Of course, if you own a VW (variable wattage) device, you don't really need this calculator because your device will do the math for you.

The wattage you want, especially at the beginning of your vaping career, should be somewhere between 4.5 and 8.5 Watts. Anything lower than 4.5 watts may not vaporize your juice properly and will not produce enough warmth and vapor. Anything above 8.5 watts increases the risk of burning the filler in your cartomizers (if you're using them) and even some juices, especially the delicate ones.

There are, of course, other variables, like eliquid and JDD (juice delivery devices) that you're using on your batteries. Seven watts on a filler type cartomizer may feel different than the same 7 watts on a fillerless clearomizer or a dripping atomizer. The same is true for different eliquids; tobaccos, chocolate and coffees generally require more wattage (heat), while fruit and other delicate flavors do better with less heat. Everyone's sweet spot is different--those are just very general guidelines.

Experiment and you'll find your own bliss in no time!

The chart below is a good guide to safe vaping, even though some think it's a bit conservative.

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About $95 shipped to U.S. Maybe $80 shipped from the U.S. Perhaps a bit less with shopping.

I would hope that you wouldn't try to compare an RBA like the Sophia to a consumable like the Ikenvape carto. Two different things. But you know this. Are you thinking about one?

They can certainly be compared;

at ballpark $100 for a Sophia RBA and assuming $2 a week for cartos, that boils down to 50 weeks or a year;
So the Sophia pays for itself in a year if you're spending $2 a week on cartos.
 

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How much does one Sophia cost? Last I heard they were quite expensive compared to a $2 carto.

How does a VV eGo battery compare to, dare I say it, ProVari?.... :D

I just couldn't help myself! :p

Seriously now--I can easily detect the difference in vaping quality between an eGo class vv battery and my APVs. However, I can't tell much of a difference between, say, a Provari, an MVP and my Sigelei Zmax--they all vape great and I like them all.

I also can taste polyfill in cartomizers, always--with or without a tank. It's not a bad thing, I like cartos, but I prefer fillerless heads... I tried a Kayfun and a genny--they are fantastic, IMO. But the expense and the amount of work they involve are just not for me. I don't want to wind my own coils. Others love it and can't imagine going back to stock coils. And I totally get it.

That said, if someone offered Kayfun-quality atomizers with premade, replaceable coils, like the Protank, I'd be be the first one in line. :D
 

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They can certainly be compared;

at ballpark $100 for a Sophia RBA and assuming $2 a week for cartos, that boils down to 50 weeks or a year;
So the Sophia pays for itself in a year if you're spending $2 a week on cartos.

You misunderstand me. First of all, I changed cartos 5 times per week when I used them, so my personal breakeven would be less than two months. But, that's not my point. My point is that a rebuildable with a coil/wick cost of a nickel will not compare with a consumable carto cost of $10 per week in my case (assuming $2/carto). One is a consumable, one is a piece of hardware. Comparing hardware against a consumable material is not a fair comparison. My point was you cannot just compare a $2 carto cost to a $80 hardware cost. Yes, a breakeven calculation is a fairly straightforward procedure, but we're still comparing apples and oranges.

However, the larger point is not that we shouldn't compare hardware to consumables, but that we not even close to being able to compare the vape quality of the two devices. A carto is the best it will ever be. RBA's can provide substantially different vapor and flavor. This is what I was talking about. Not that we can't discuss the differences.

For those of us that can taste the filler material in cartos, there really is no comparison. One tastes terrible, one tastes fantastic. Money is not the issue.
 
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I use a provari with a 306lr dripping atomizer. All the benifits of dripping and don't have to fool with building coils. This is the closest thing to a real cig hit I have found with out using a rba/rda!

I agree. But I have no patience for dripping... I just want to fill 'er up and go. :p
 

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How does a VV eGo battery compare to, dare I say it, ProVari?.... :D

I just couldn't help myself! :p

Seriously now--I can easily detect the difference in vaping quality between an eGo class vv battery and my APVs. However, I can't tell much of a difference between, say, a Provari, an MVP and my Sigelei Zmax--they all vape great and I like them all.

I also can taste polyfill in cartomizers, always--with or without a tank. It's not a bad thing, I like cartos, but I prefer fillerless heads... I tried a Kayfun and a genny--they are fantastic, IMO. But the expense and the amount of work they involve are just not for me. I don't want to wind my own coils. Others love it and can't imagine going back to stock coils. And I totally get it.

That said, if someone offered Kayfun-quality atomizers with premade, replaceable coils, like the Protank, I'd be be the first one in line. :D

With certainty, I believe we will one day get there Kat! Can't wait. We are already heading down that road with some of the newer clearos.
 

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How does a VV eGo battery compare to, dare I say it, ProVari?.... :D

I just couldn't help myself! :p

Seriously now--I can easily detect the difference in vaping quality between an eGo class vv battery and my APVs. However, I can't tell much of a difference between, say, a Provari, an MVP and my Sigelei Zmax--they all vape great and I like them all.

I also can taste polyfill in cartomizers, always--with or without a tank. It's not a bad thing, I like cartos, but I prefer fillerless heads... I tried a Kayfun and a genny--they are fantastic, IMO. But the expense and the amount of work they involve are just not for me. I don't want to wind my own coils. Others love it and can't imagine going back to stock coils. And I totally get it.

That said, if someone offered Kayfun-quality atomizers with premade, replaceable coils, like the Protank, I'd be be the first one in line. :D

Any idea what stuff is used for the polyfill in cartos?

We all know we get silica in clearos, genny's come with mesh, some people use cotton; but what's in cartos?? Is there an option to use cotton or silica in cartos?

And I think the... bauman or something looks like a clearo, but it uses a mesh filler type design;
 

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Any idea what stuff is used for the polyfill in cartos?

We all know we get silica in clearos, genny's come with mesh, some people use cotton; but what's in cartos?? Is there an option to use cotton or silica in cartos?

And I think the... bauman or something looks like a clearo, but it uses a mesh filler type design;

Do I ever. I spent 3 years taking cartos apart and studying them. :facepalm:

The wicks are silica and they don't burn. The little blanket or "diaper" that is often wrapped around the coil is cotton--and it burns like crazy when not completely wet. The filler is just some kind of polyester batting that scorches and melts and tastes like car on fire.

Wanna see a picture? :)
 
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