Explain the advantage of variable voltage ecigs please

[BobbyDidge]

Can someone please explain the advantage of variable voltage cause with what I see in this chart (posted at bottom) it seems that vaping a 3.5v device at 1.5 ohms is the same as vaping a 4.75v at 2.8 ohms. So why get a vv device if it's gonna have the same watts anyway? Thanks!

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[johnnymaestro]

You're more than welcome to pose that question in new members but I'm going to go ahead and move this thread to Variable Voltage mods discussion because I think you'll get more help from that area. Thanks!

 

[sailorman]

VV device eliminates the need to use LR attys. LR attys burn out faster than SR or HR attys.

With a VV, you can adjust to the wattages that lie between what you would achieve by changing resistance. In effect, you can get the same vape as you might get with a 3.69ohm atty, if it existed.

Higher resistance with higher voltage, allows finer increments. A 0.1V change from 4.75V on a 2.8ohm changes the wattage less than the same 0.1V change on a 3.5V device with a 1.5ohm resistance.

Most batteries on a fixed voltage device will begin providing less voltage as they become drained. As your battery drains, you can increase the voltage to compensate.

If you have a carto full of your favorite juice, you may like it warmer in the morning and cooler at night. With a VV, you don't have to load two different cartos with the same juice.

There are wattages that provide the optimum vape with any given juice and under any given circumstances, that you cannot achieve by mixing and matching batteries and different resistance cartomizers.

I have a juice that's perfect at 8 watts. I have a fixed volt device. When it's providing 4.2V, right off the charger, I need a 2.2ohm carto. When the voltage falls to 3.7, I need a 1.7ohm carto. That's a tall order. With a VV, I can level off my 3ohm carto to 4.9V and nail it.

Those are a few off the top of my head. Hope they make sense.

 

[DCB305]

There are a few advantages to variable voltage.

1) Gives you flexibility as to what resistance attachment (cartomizer/Clearomizer/attomiser) you want to use and still get the desired throat hit, vapor production, and flavor that suits you.
2) Different juices vape better or improve in flavor at different voltages (really watts)
3) You can fine tune everything to your liking more or less.
4) convenience - with a constant voltage device in order to produce more watts you have to change up your attachment to do so and your will be limited in your range.

Most devices have a amp limit though which will come into effect so for an example and based off of what you provided at 3.5volts and using a 1.5 ohm whatever I produce around 8 watts with a provari that has a 3.5amp limit I can get up to around 4.8 volts which is about 15 watts and go anywhere in between (at 4.8 volts I am getting close to the 3.5 amp limit though). I hope this helps.

 

[Hottody]

Hello Bobby! Yes a 3.5 volt device with LR cartos will help you experience what it's like to vape at higher voltages! The main advantage is the ability to adjust voltage to generate the amount of vapor and flavor desired with your variable volt device! For many, a 3.5 volt device is sufficient, especially when used with low resistance cartos! I must say however, that I love my variable volt device for the reasons described above. Great question Bobby and enjoy ECF!

 

[bssage]

the simple answer is you can turn up or down the temp. And absolutely the other answers are correct. It also allows you to take advantage of sales and closeouts of different resistance atty's/carto's. IMHO the biggest plus is adjusting for flavor though.

 

[phoneguy1212]

I agree with you that vaping at lower volts and lower ohms are great and one wouldn't think that having a VV would be necessary. This is my thoughts and only my thoughts. I use VV when a cart or atty starts too slow down from age or the ohms are a little on the high side to start with. Cranking up the volts just a little will bring back to life the old hardware. Some juices need higher wattage to bring out their taste. Just because you only order LR doesn't always mean that's what you get and won't know till you put a meter to it. For me LR means 1.5-2.5 ohms. But that 2.5 will take more volts without burning the juice and bring out more flavor. There is so many variables that one can't say. Some people love to see a lot of vapor on exhale and could be why they choose to crank up the heat. Me, when I want more vapor I just change my percentage of VG and PG. I made a vv for less than $20. You can even get a kit from Mad Vapes. Teach yourself some DIY for hardware and juices and play around with it. Great if you are off the analogs and have a new hobby so get good at it by experimenting with everything. Just don't go broke doing it.
Hope I could help. Jerry

 

[BobbyDidge]

Wow, thanks everyone for all the informative replies!
So if you put the watts higher you get more vapor production too and throat hit? How come most sites I see sell 1.5-2.0 ohm I never really come across a 3+ohm from the main sites. I would be interested in building my own like mentioned above but I'm scared of not knowing the threshold for ohms and volts lol I'm a curious guy and would prob crank it till its too late and I need plastic surgery lol. That's why I was looking at provari just not sure. I loveee my ego, had it for about two months and haven't smoked an analog since. Just curious if it's worth buying the provari. I finally after almost two months hit the point where I broke even from everything vaping to what I would have spent on analogs and it's nice knowing that from here on out I would be saving money lol that is unless I get the provari! Lol decisions decisions!!!

 

[zapped]

In a nutshell, you know that awesome hit you get from a 3.7 volt device when the batteries fully charged? You get it every time with the right VV device.

 

[BobbyDidge]

Is it possible to get an even BETTER hit? Lol

 

[bnrkwest]

Wow, thanks everyone for all the informative replies!
So if you put the watts higher you get more vapor production too and throat hit? How come most sites I see sell 1.5-2.0 ohm I never really come across a 3+ohm from the main sites. I would be interested in building my own like mentioned above but I'm scared of not knowing the threshold for ohms and volts lol I'm a curious guy and would prob crank it till its too late and I need plastic surgery lol. That's why I was looking at provari just not sure. I loveee my ego, had it for about two months and haven't smoked an analog since. Just curious if it's worth buying the provari. I finally after almost two months hit the point where I broke even from everything vaping to what I would have spent on analogs and it's nice knowing that from here on out I would be saving money lol that is unless I get the provari! Lol decisions decisions!!!

I just got the Provari Mini, I was using a 3.7 APV with LR cartos and when I use the provari Mini with 3.0 Boge and vary the volts it is like having remote control over your vaping LOL The cost of Provari or any quality APV VV is worth it in my opinion. Check out the Darwin too, it looks like a very nice APV. I just saw a ecig kit (slim style) for $359.00 today, yikes, get a VV much more quality and preformance for the $'s hands down! bnrk

 

[caged]

Another advantage is supposedly higher resistance attys and cartos have more metal making contact with the juice, giving you more flavor, throat hit, and vapor. I don't have my Infinity Pro yet so I don't have personal experience.

 

[jamentertainment]

why???...cause its cool !!

 

[FsckCigs]

Even if one settles into a certain resistance of carto/atty on a fixed-voltage device, vv is helpful because the vape will not be the same from one carto/atty to the next due to variation which results from manufacturing inconsistencies. The ratings of cartos/attys are averages or target resistances which in some cases are represented by a quite wide range of actual values. I've had some truly kick-... units and some rather anemic ones amongst exact same products with the exact same rating, a multimeter reading quickly illuminates the reason for this. With VV the vape can be made consistent despite their differences.

Also, as has been mentioned, as cartos/ attys age, VV allows one to compensate for decreasing performance.

 

[NickZac]

So would you guys say that a VV mod like the Provari is a better choice for getting the most our of your cartos than other mods in the same price class that use a VW drop-in such as the Kick?

 

[ObsceneJesster]

So would you guys say that a VV mod like the Provari is a better choice for getting the most our of your cartos than other mods in the same price class that use a VW drop-in such as the Kick?

I wouldn't say it's better than others in it's price range. I would say it has it's advantages just like other high end VV Mods such as the Darwin. Yea, you can drop the Kick into a cheaper mod and pretty much get the same vape. What you're not going to get is the build quality. Trust me. Once you put the Provari in your hand, you just know it's a high quality device. When I ordered mine, I was expecting a high end mod but I was still surprised by just how solid it was built. Honestly, I wasn't expecting it to be this nice.

 

[LookMa`NoSmoK]

Is it the gold one?

 

[ObsceneJesster]

Is it the gold one?

The gold one is tacky. Hell, anything gold in color is tacky.

 

[FsckCigs]

So would you guys say that a VV mod like the Provari is a better choice for getting the most our of your cartos than other mods in the same price class that use a VW drop-in such as the Kick?

The kick is a nice and cost-effective way to upgrade and add safety features to a mod you already have, or to a fixed-voltage mod you're purchasing, but aside from the fact that they can be hard to get, you have to open the mod every time you want to make an adjustment (though since it's rather cleverly wattage-based, you shouldn't have to adjust it so much) and it won't give you any readout of information like some VV APVs will...so in many ways it's a matter of what you want feature-wise, and how much you want to spend.

 

[bssage]

Is it possible to get an even BETTER hit? Lol

IMHO the Carto--atty--rebuildable: is going to be as significant if not more than the mod. VV is more likely to make it repeatable than other devices

So would you guys say that a VV mod like the Provari is a better choice for getting the most our of your cartos than other mods in the same price class that use a VW drop-in such as the Kick?

I am not sure you have to go with the high end mods to see the value. I own several vv's: high end, low end and a couple made by my buddy . My opinion is that the high end typically offer service or other bells and whistles. And more often than not has a nicer form factor. You can show it off. Service for me is really a no sale. I dont want to have to repair it ever. If there are a thousand reviews about how great the service is. That tells me there are a thousand people needing repair: Especially on a new product. Yes I have had a couple repaired through just regular use on a daily basis. But that is on me not them.

Just saying it does not take a ton of cash to go VV.