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Friend of mine who was there took this picture of the aftermath.

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Anyone find this a little creepy?

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Occams razor does not apply here. There is no simple answer. Where a large enough crowd gathers you can bet one out of 50 are just not the brightest people.
No need to stop cloud chasing events but safety should be observed with any electrical devises. Idk many people that bathe with a hair drier near the tub either, but one in 50 may do something just as stupid.
 

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Not a good analogy. Racetracks are specifically constructed to provide a venue for an inherently dangerous behavior. They are separated physically from regular roads and the movement of people around the racetracks is strongly regulated. Racetracks usually have policies that include safety requirements for vehicles at various performance levels.

None of this applies to the current typical vaping scene cloud competition. And that's kind of the point

Cloud chasing IS race vaping. Racing is banned on public streets and some jurisdictions limit what modifications you can do to a car and have it legal to drive on the street. vaping has no such regulations and if it doesn't want them, it needs to police itself. Which may or may not be even possible.

Fair enough, that's a good point. Although that kind of ties into what I was saying, instead of just outright stopping it, make it safer. Race tracks didn't spring up overnight, it's a long evolution they have gone through to get where they are today. This was at an event that hosted a cloud competition, this guy wasn't inside a K-Mart. Just like hosted racing events require things to be done safely, people that put on vape meets should make sure these competitions are done safety.

But instead of seeing calls for that, I just see attacks on other vapers. Do you think that will change anything? Will someone stop being a cloud chaser because someone was salty towards them on the internet?
 

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I don't blame the competition, or even sub-ohming for the competition. To be honest we all know a lot of people do sub-ohm and do it safely. This was one person walking around in a crowd that when into thermal runaway. What we don't know and can only speculate about is why. More then likely something unsafe has transpired to cause the device / battery to fail.

My ultimate concern is during an event like this is how many of these potential problems are walking around in a crowd and how many of those users that walk around with these devices that may do something unsafe, or use unsafe batteries / setups with the attitude "it won't happen to me" will just throw the mod and run away like a coward?

How would we all feel if we had been walking by that area just as the device failed and we didn't get hurt, but maybe or significant other? Girlfriend. boyfriend. wife, husband or worse yet... child? How would we feel then? This is why as a community stick together and preach safety first and always error on the side of caution.

If something unsafe is asked on the forums, then is should be deemed unsafe and thread be locked. If we find a device, authentic or clone, that is unsafe... we need a way to bring forth this knowledge and make people aware of it.
 

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I was not suggesting cloud chasers should be shunned. If I go to the big automobile show, I expect to see cool autos- the new models, some of the classics and sometimes a prototype or two. And there are displays of all kinds of automobile related items for sale. What I've never seen there is a drag race in the parking lot or in a side room. Seems to me a vaping convention is more for the average user, beginner or very advanced while cloud chasers should have their own venue, just like drag races.
 

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So I went back a few pages to catch up on the thread.
27 pages OK
My question is was the mod that bit the dust in the competition?
Or was it a bystander?
OH hey could this have been set up to stir up some sort of controversy?
Like the car accident on the side of the road everyone slows to look.

Oh wait New sig
Vape SAFE Vape Happy Vape ON :vapor: Bang (Guess it isn't a good joke)

Just when you thought it was safe to go to a vape fest.
 

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I would like to know what you do with someone like this?:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:



I have never had to report a video before on Youtube. This was my first. I hope others will also report this video for engaging in dangerous activities. I am appalled to say the least.

This dude has more videos that were just released. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbRm6dkLpZ0 Really bro?
 
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I have never had to report a video before on Youtube. This was my first. I hope others will also report this video for engaging in dangerous activities. I am appalled to say the least. This dude has more videos that were just released. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbRm6dkLpZ0 Really bro?
I reported the first, and MAY report this as well -- this time he's using stacked batteries: 0.12 dual quad flat ribbon wire stacked batteries.

I've always heard this is a "no-no". However, it looks like he is using a 26xxx size mod, and I am not familiar with the batteries available for this size mod.
 
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Occams razor does not apply here. There is no simple answer. Where a large enough crowd gathers you can bet one out of 50 are just not the brightest people.
No need to stop cloud chasing events but safety should be observed with any electrical devises. Idk many people that bathe with a hair drier near the tub either, but one in 50 may do something just as stupid.

In a crowd of 50 random people I would bet that at a very minimum that 42 are not the brightest people. Chances are it's higher than that.
 

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Occams razor does not apply here. There is no simple answer. Where a large enough crowd gathers you can bet one out of 50 are just not the brightest people.
No need to stop cloud chasing events but safety should be observed with any electrical devises. Idk many people that bathe with a hair drier near the tub either, but one in 50 may do something just as stupid.

Hair dryers now are required to come equipped with GFCI protection which will actually protect people who do use the dryer in the tub.

Fair enough, that's a good point. Although that kind of ties into what I was saying, instead of just outright stopping it, make it safer. Race tracks didn't spring up overnight, it's a long evolution they have gone through to get where they are today. This was at an event that hosted a cloud competition, this guy wasn't inside a K-Mart. Just like hosted racing events require things to be done safely, people that put on vape meets should make sure these competitions are done safety.

But instead of seeing calls for that, I just see attacks on other vapers. Do you think that will change anything? Will someone stop being a cloud chaser because someone was salty towards them on the internet?

I used to be a staunch advocate of not blaming cloud chasing for the ills of vaping, but over time my attitude is changing on that. People aren't taking the right lessons from cloud chasing anymore. It used to be a gateway to education and enthusiasm. Now it's an outlet for ".... you." With the advent of safer high-power devices, I see no reason for unregulated devices to even be encouraged to be made. Yeah something with no safety features is smaller and perhaps cooler looking, but that doesn't justify unsafe devices.

That said, I kind of think cloud chasing is not long for vaping. It's kind of pointless and eventually competitions will become impossible to judge as it will be common for devices to be able to safely generate way more vapor than anyone could inhale. It will come down to lung capacity, and that has no relevance to the industry.

In a crowd of 50 random people I would bet that at a very minimum that 42 are not the brightest people. Chances are it's higher than that.

As the saying goes, think of how dumb the average person is and realize half of all people are dumber than that!
 
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This saying is false because it doesn't take into account a bell curve distribution.

I know you want to sound smart, but it is literally correct. In a colloquial statement, "average" can in fact mean the median, mean, mode, or another non-mathematical value. This is literally indicated to be colloquial by the use of the word "saying." So the creator of the saying actually guaranteed its literal correctness by context.
 
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I enlarged the image to get a closer look.

Anyone find this a little creepy?

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Not sure what you mean by creepy. Creep ran away rather than face the music, that's plenty creepy.

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