Have not tried fruits but got excellent ginger extract. Chopped fresh ginger, then squashed adding PG. Left it for a day and it tastes great, like ginger bonbons. Also soaked black pepper in PG with good results. I would go for dried fruits + PG.
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If you can smell & taste it in the liquid i'm stumped over why you don't taste it in the vape. You do get a burnt sugar taste? Maybe it's too concentrated? Try it at a low % & see what happens. Maybe a drop or 2 of sweetener may wake it up? (though VG's already sweet & there's sugars in the pulp & juice i think) What voltage & resistance are you using? Maybe a lower wattage (cooler vape) may help as well?
That's it....out of ideas for now. If none of that works the true DIY heavyweights may have to chime in to make sense of this (seemingly) baffling vaping conundrum lol
Electrotimba, how did the black pepper taste? Spicy with a kick or more mild? (crosses fingers for "with a kick")
That's it....out of ideas for now. If none of that works the true DIY heavyweights may have to chime in to make sense of this (seemingly) baffling vaping conundrum lol
Electrotimba, how did the black pepper taste? Spicy with a kick or more mild? (crosses fingers for "with a kick")
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Kick of sharpness , exactly as expected. I want to use just a touch with other flavours. Idea is from brewing Indian tea, bit of black pepper (along with ginger, saffron, cardamom, clove and cinnamon) adds the delectable edge.
Now, want to experiment some more with that kind of Ricola or Fishermans friend type of vape. I got cold recently and extra strong mint+menthol worked perfect against cough, did not have to use anything else, just vape whenever needed. Used same today after unpleasant visit to the dentist who worked medieval style, again the vape helped. So now want to experimenting more with vapes against whatever discomforts.
Now, want to experiment some more with that kind of Ricola or Fishermans friend type of vape. I got cold recently and extra strong mint+menthol worked perfect against cough, did not have to use anything else, just vape whenever needed. Used same today after unpleasant visit to the dentist who worked medieval style, again the vape helped. So now want to experimenting more with vapes against whatever discomforts.
someone suggested i try this to bring out the flavor in my lorann apple concentrate but i didnt have any of these ingredients handy so i dont know if it works
Originally Posted by wizard10000
You might try adding a little ethyl maltol to bring the flavor out. Rather than mess with the crystals I just use Lorann cotton candy, which is EM dissolved in PG. For my taste 2% cotton candy always does it - you may like more or less.
Hope this helps -
whats does dw stand for?
Originally Posted by wizard10000
You might try adding a little ethyl maltol to bring the flavor out. Rather than mess with the crystals I just use Lorann cotton candy, which is EM dissolved in PG. For my taste 2% cotton candy always does it - you may like more or less.
Hope this helps -
whats does dw stand for?
just extracted some juice from frozen blueberries wow talk about nice color!
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DW= distilled water usually.
Haven't tried Lorann's apple but EM goes in.....well...nearly everything lol. Gives a body & sweetness while rounding flavours out. Time & again I refer to Hoosier's blogs. See here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...diy-mixing-staples-misc-blending-flavors.html for his info on EM.
Since you don't have any, (you should get some.....really.....like NOW!
) fruit flavours usually benefit from a couple drops of concentrated lemon juice (or Lorann's Tart & Sour if you have it). Oh & maybe a drop or 2 of sweetener. Try that while you're waiting for the EM you just ordered & see if that don't make that there apple juice POP!
Now I'm off to make some devilish Black Pepper extract
Haven't tried Lorann's apple but EM goes in.....well...nearly everything lol. Gives a body & sweetness while rounding flavours out. Time & again I refer to Hoosier's blogs. See here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...diy-mixing-staples-misc-blending-flavors.html for his info on EM.
Since you don't have any, (you should get some.....really.....like NOW!
) fruit flavours usually benefit from a couple drops of concentrated lemon juice (or Lorann's Tart & Sour if you have it). Oh & maybe a drop or 2 of sweetener. Try that while you're waiting for the EM you just ordered & see if that don't make that there apple juice POP!Now I'm off to make some devilish Black Pepper extract
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yay someone tried! how did it vape/taste/th/amount of vapor/burn taste/how did you atty fair up? lots of questions
Im vaping at 3.7V on an ego c. I havent dried dripping on my 510 with it yet tho just because i need a new atty. getting it tomorrow. Ill check the extracts I made then.
btw, i did try to add some sucralose. i dont have any em on hand but im not sure that would help the flavor "pop" per se. I also did try 100% vg base, 10% of the lemon extract i made, and 10% dw to thin. At 20% even vaping it i get no flavor. its smells and tastes great.
I can always put it over some lemon sherbert if this doesnt work... lol.
Im stumped too. its just strange.
btw, i did try to add some sucralose. i dont have any em on hand but im not sure that would help the flavor "pop" per se. I also did try 100% vg base, 10% of the lemon extract i made, and 10% dw to thin. At 20% even vaping it i get no flavor. its smells and tastes great.
I can always put it over some lemon sherbert if this doesnt work... lol.
Im stumped too. its just strange.
yay someone tried! how did it vape/taste/th/amount of vapor/burn taste/how did you atty fair up? lots of questions
i didnt try it on a atty should have
i put it in my tank with carto
it had a very slight taste but after a while i started getting a tight draw
so back to the drawing board
After a couple days of sitting the lemon concentrate I tried is still the same.
Used straight with a lil dw its just too concentrated and the sugar burns in the atty hence the burned sugar taste. It just kills any lemon flavor that might have come through.
Diluted in a mix even at 20% flavor its just not strong enuff. I guess its back to the drawing board.
However... I did add a few drops of it to mountain dew flavoring from tpa... and it gave it a nice lil pop and a slight tad sweeter. So it wasnt for nothing.
Ill try again, but hopefully someone may have a technique or two to share in the meantime. Im not gonna give up on this just yet.
Used straight with a lil dw its just too concentrated and the sugar burns in the atty hence the burned sugar taste. It just kills any lemon flavor that might have come through.
Diluted in a mix even at 20% flavor its just not strong enuff. I guess its back to the drawing board.
However... I did add a few drops of it to mountain dew flavoring from tpa... and it gave it a nice lil pop and a slight tad sweeter. So it wasnt for nothing.
Ill try again, but hopefully someone may have a technique or two to share in the meantime. Im not gonna give up on this just yet.
Hmm, looks like its going to be trial and error. I wouldnt add sugar/sucralose because it would probably be destroying your atty. and dano thats probably the sugar clogging too
Sucralose is used as an e-liquid sweetner with no ill effect towards a carto/atty.
Ya, agreed. Sucralose isnt the issue. Rather the natural sugars are the likely culprit.
My best guess for a next attempt is distillation to remove the sugar im just not sure the flavor would carry over tho.
Im going to do some more research. Maybe try my method above one more time but when heating it Im going to capture some of the evaporate and see if maybe its got flavor. Then again I could be way off. Wont be for a few days tho.
My best guess for a next attempt is distillation to remove the sugar im just not sure the flavor would carry over tho.
Im going to do some more research. Maybe try my method above one more time but when heating it Im going to capture some of the evaporate and see if maybe its got flavor. Then again I could be way off. Wont be for a few days tho.
Yeah, seems like the problem could be the natural sugars that got extracted with the flavour. At a concentration high enough to taste the sugar content is so high it just burns & kills whatever sweet lemony goodness there might be. Was gonna tell you try somewhere in the middle at ~50% mix maybe but maybe you shouldn't if there's so much natural sugars in the extract, but hey maybe it'll taste like burnt LEMON sugar
There should be a way to extract the flavour without the sugar. Distillation may be the right track......
There should be a way to extract the flavour without the sugar. Distillation may be the right track......
I wonder if fruits where essence/flavour is an oil (citrus and similar) would need a different treatment from 'simple' juice or pulp based flavours? I don't know whether they do or not, I'm just looking at it from a botany crossed with knowing oil and non oil based flavourings need slightly different treatment. Nothing more to offer than that though, I'm sorry.
I did make a mango steep that worked pretty well. Mangoes are sold by the bucket on the side of the street here in summer
I made a mango vinegar by steeping really ripe fruit in white vinegar - yum in cooking and salads, but it hadn't occurred to me it might be useful as an e-liquid. For that I cut up some less ripe (less sugars) mangoes into slices, dried them, then steeped them for in VG. When the VG seemed to have a good taste, I took out the mangoe and strained the liquid through triple muslin (in the hopes of getting out any tiny fruit fibres - there was a surprising amount in the cloth).
The flavour is good and works well in dripping & GotVapes pump carts. It works in wicked carto's, but they do need to be cleaned fairly often.
I've been thinking about trying it with pears now they're coming into season - has anyone tried them?
I did make a mango steep that worked pretty well. Mangoes are sold by the bucket on the side of the street here in summer
I made a mango vinegar by steeping really ripe fruit in white vinegar - yum in cooking and salads, but it hadn't occurred to me it might be useful as an e-liquid. For that I cut up some less ripe (less sugars) mangoes into slices, dried them, then steeped them for in VG. When the VG seemed to have a good taste, I took out the mangoe and strained the liquid through triple muslin (in the hopes of getting out any tiny fruit fibres - there was a surprising amount in the cloth).
The flavour is good and works well in dripping & GotVapes pump carts. It works in wicked carto's, but they do need to be cleaned fairly often.
I've been thinking about trying it with pears now they're coming into season - has anyone tried them?
I know there's Jameson Juices that use organic fruit in their e liquid. Most of their product is seasonal so right now I think it's peach.
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I used used home grown Satsuma oranges to make some juice last winter but the result wasn't all that good. That's because I used a tincture to extract the orange oil from the zest. Oils are not good for vaping purposes. Here is the thread, with photos.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/364756-natural-satsuma-mandarin-diy.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/364756-natural-satsuma-mandarin-diy.html
I read some article on extracting tobacco flavor by soaking it into alcohol, filter it and evaporate the alcohol on medium temperature. What remains is the tobacco concentrate.
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