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CaffeineFreak

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Recently purchased ejuice from V4L (Almond Chocococo, Redcow, Peanut Butter and Cowboy VG Nobacco juice). All four were 36mg nicotine. Since I received the order I tried all but the Redcow. The taste and strength was very weak and not what I expected. I picked up 16mg last week from a local store that was stronger than all three 36mg I've tried so far. Is this common? I would appreciate input so the next time I place an order I'm not so disappointed. Point me in the right direction.
 

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Recently purchased ejuice from V4L (Almond Chocococo, Redcow, Peanut Butter and Cowboy VG Nobacco Juice). All four were 36mg nicotine. Since I received the order I tried all but the Redcow. The taste and strength was very weak and not what I expected. I picked up 16mg last week from a local store that was stronger than all three 36mg I've tried so far. Is this common? I would appreciate input so the next time I place an order I'm not so disappointed. Point me in the right direction.

There is a lot of consistence in flavor and vapor in all cartomizers. I have not had those particular flavors from V4L. My favorites there was the caramel mocha frap., cuban cigar, french pipe but not much else stuck. Better stuff in 'free' ejuice - ie for refills. Decadent Vapours from TW being the most flavorful I've come across but they're expensive - also high quality and imo, worth it. I vape at 12mg and I find that more nic does tend to affect the flavor but still, it shouldn't be as weak as you say.

You're best bet and what I've settled to with one ecig - is to get some blank cartos and fill them with ejuice you like. They still will last a good 2 hours with a good fill. And you're vaping what you like. Don't overheat.....
 

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Taste and strength are not typically directly tied to the mg level of the liquid. I've never ordered from V4L, so I can't speak to how they hit versus other brands.
Unfortunately, since taste is such a subjective thing, there's no real way to gauge how "good" a particular brand is until you try it yourself. One of the things that helps is to search for brands / flavors you like in posts and see if the people who like them recommend something else. If the taste in what you have isn't pushing your buttons, run down to a local pharmacy and pick up some Lorann's flavorings. Search the forums for threads on mixing to see how to experiment with that. At least that way, what you put into the V4L juice isn't a loss, plus you might discover a new favorite flavor.
Strength is also somewhat subjective. The mg level tells you how much nicotine is in the liquid, but nothing about how it actually feels when you vape it. Some formulas, although they deliver more nicotine, aren't "harsh" enough to feel like the cigarette smoke you are replacing. For veteran vapers, thats a good thing. They want volume of vapor, but are now used to not feeling the scratchy throat feel that comes with cigarette smoke. For new vapers, they miss the feel of an analog. Because of this, some of the higher "quality" juices (preferred by the vets) are disappointing to the new users. You may be able to adjust the feel of the liquid by cutting it with more PG (less vapor, harsher), which will also drop the mg level, but it may provide the throat hit you are looking for. (Feel free to flame me, anyone, I'm out of my league on this point)

Also note that a lot of vets have switched to higher voltage "mods" in order to produce more vapor volume. Because of that, a harsher vapor would be overwhelming (and would tend to overwhelm the flavor as well.)

Hope this is at least a little helpful.
 

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Taste and strength are not typically directly tied to the mg level of the liquid.

I've found that to be true as most of my juices are V4L but my Rootbeer Float (purchased in High) has much more of a throat kick than my Coconut Cream Pie from V4L (also with purchased in High) and V4L's Cola (again, in High) falls somewhere in between.

I recently bought Honey Flue Cured from Liquidxpress and their 26mg seemed stronger to me than most of V4L flavors so last time I ordered I bought Liquidxpress' Cola flavor hoping it would have more of a kick than V4L's Cola but it didn't :(

Taste is really subjective around here and I've tried countless flavors based on recommendations here and it has not worked out for me.

I KNOW it sucks buying flavors you wind up not liking (BELIEVE me I know and so do my credit cards) but the classifieds section is a good place to trade or sell them and when you DO find your flavors it's all WORTH it, I promise.
 

CaffeineFreak

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Thanks everyone! I'm still very new to all this so I appreciate all the info. I think most of you hit the nail on the head with missing the throat hit. Being naive I suspected higher mg being more satisfying. I'm quickly learning otherwise. On a side note...

If anyone can recommend a Marlboro juice that hits HARD it would be greatly appreciated.

Again please excuse my stupidity :oops:
 

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If anyone can recommend a Marlboro juice that hits HARD it would be greatly appreciated.

You're not stupid, you're new - quite a difference and your assumption was one most of us have made ;)

Even though I haven't tried it is seems Harley 56 from halocigs.com was kicking for quite a few people but they've been having some problems with their suppliers so it hasn't been in stock lately :(

So as an alternative: people say Totally Wicked Patriot Line is similar.

I do want to point out that a lot of people start with e-cigs hoping / thinking they're going to find a flavor that is most like their analogues and while you may find something kind of similar it's never going to be exactly the same because when you're smoking a cig you're smoking something that is burning and something that is burning that has 4,000 chemicals in it ;)

Also, while vapor is great it's never going to have the "heft" that smoke does.
 
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Thanks everyone! I'm still very new to all this so I appreciate all the info. I think most of you hit the nail on the head with missing the throat hit. Being naive I suspected higher mg being more satisfying. I'm quickly learning otherwise. On a side note...

If anyone can recommend a Marlboro juice that hits HARD it would be greatly appreciated.

Again please excuse my stupidity :oops:

So not knowing where your at for time willing to be spent, but for me I find making my own juice is where its at, its easy, and all my stuff is customised to me. I only had one failure and that is because I used Loranns choc which is absolutely horrible.
 

yanks21

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Thanks Yanks. I think Skyler is on to something about VG not hitting as hard. I'll check out Totally Wicked!

That is true the general rule is:

PG = Throat Hit
VG = Vapor

A lot of people buy custom juices from places like Tasty Vapor that allow you to pick %s of PG and VG desired BUT I would wait until your taste buds recover a bit before trying TV because he only has one tobacco flavor and reviews on it are mixed.
 

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DUDE!!! That's some pretty high mg juice. If you are not getting good throat hit on 24 mg juice on 3.7 volts, something is wrong. I smoked for 30 years and vape all the time now. I'm finding I have to cut the 24 mg juice with some VG because if I don't it makes my throat sore (dried out just like it was when I smoked).

Whatever you do, don't order the 54mg juice and try to vape it straight.8-o
 
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