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Andromendous

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Hello all. Sorry to bring a negative post apon this great community. I am so frustrated right now im close to pulling my hair out. One can only try so much before its just foolish to go on. I first tried vaping about two years ago. Got the typical cheap $20 ego set. That didnt last long. Two weeks later i broke it falling off a latter. It was in my pocket, i didnt even fall on it or anything, just twisted my body enough to apply just enough pressure on my pocket that it snapped in half. I pulled it out of my pocket and the whole thing just fell into pieces. That really frustrated me so i went back to smoking. A few months later i decided to try again, i went and picked up a vision spinner, a t3s and a mini protank. I was plagued with dry hits/leaking issues to the point where i just broke the darn thing. Ironically, i was using high vg juice at the time. Witch makes no since to have leaking issues. So, went back to smoking again.... Few months later, i started hearing about mods and such. So i got a few mods. First was a Nemisis clone by infinite and a kayfun lite plus v2. I also heard about johnson creek juice, which most of them are 100% vg that is highly diluted with distilled water so it is VERY thin. Was probably my best experience with vaping so far, i vaped straight for a good 2 or 3 months........ Then the inevitable happenes. Johnson creek changed their juice. It just wasnt the same anymore. I just couldnt do it. Anyway, i went ahead, moved on to other juices, and it was just never the same. This was about 8 months ago? And to this day i fail every time at getting a consisant wick/vape going on with my kayfuns. Its always the same, ive tries everything 100's of times, different brand cottons, stuff the cotton, loose cotton, tight cotton, short tails, long tails, making sure the juice holes are clear. For some reason nothing works like that jc juice. Ok, so same song different verse, after months of experimenting and nothing but failure i gave up again, and just a month ago.... I dunno why... I went to a vape shop to get a new battery to try again. And the salesman, talkes me into getting a LE80 box, he wanted me to get a subohm tank but they didnt have the one i wanted (freemax starr). He told me about all the features of the mod and how it could go down to .2ohms, i asked him, if it would work right with a .25 ohm coil, like the starr tank. He said "oooh ya!!! Itll work awesome! I have .2 ohm coils in my herikles right now!) (Famous last words...) So. I decided to get the mod($77), and two samsung 25R's ($24) and found a starr tank at another shop for $35. It workd great! For a whole month! I had a .25 coil in it for 2.5 weeks and never one problem. I could chain vape that thing straight untill the tank was empty without one burnt hit or drop in flavor. Then out of bordem, i changed the coil...... And it just went all down hill from there. Out of a 5 pack of coils 3 of them where either burnt and nasty, or just acted real weird. One night i was sitting there, vapin away, and i went to take a hit, and i herd this sizzling noise and the leds went dark and it was like it was firing at max voltage just.... Super hot and unbearable. I dunno whats happening, i went to the vape shop and showed the guy, he said its because its a .25 coil, and my mod only goes down to .2. [emoji15]
I told him how his guy said itd be fine, and he just kinda shrugged at me and insisted i needed to use .5 coils. I think its the mod, it work just fine for a whole month then just bam,. Even the voltage dile is real lose all the sudden and doesnt line up with the cut out in the box. Anyway, im just so tired of this, ive spent hundreds of dollars all wasted..... I just dunno what to do.... Sorry for the novel
 
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Egads. Sorry you've had such a rocky start....er......several rocky starts.

That box mod you bought is capable of using 0.2ohm ~ 5.0ohm atomizers and its a really nice mod! Gets great reviews from people who buy it. So don't run out and spend more money just yet.

I think people here can help you find the right topper for your box. It also sounds like you need to stop going to that particular vape shop, but I would definitely ask them to stand behind their product and test this device. You also paid more than you would have online, which is fine, if your vape shop is a good place and they are helpful.

As for coils, are you interested in building your own, and using an RDA, as sometimes you get a box of "duds" when using OTC ones.

However NEVER expect that vaping is going to be as easy as pulling a cig out of a box. It's not. It is always going to require more fiddling, and a lot of these products are just not going to work forever. But I would take it back if it is failing this early----have they looked at the LE80 for you yet?
 

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Also, do you have "backup"? That can be a simple device like spinner with a clearo tank on top. That set up you had w/the T3 and Protank should have worked fine w/no dry hits, so maybe it was your juice, or again, bad coils.

What exacctly didn't you like about the newer JC ejuice? You can thin your eliquid yourself with a little distilled water if it was too thick?
 
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.25 is not lower than .2. You can call .2 a lot of things, .20, .200, .200000000. Just add all the zero decimals you want, same thing... 2 tenths=20 hundredths=200 thousandths...

Any chance juice leaked into the mod? Electronics and liquid don't mix. Sounds like something killed the mod, but I doubt it was the coil.
 

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Wow thanks for all the kind replys everyone it really means alot to me. I usually do buy online, but this particular mod i couldnt find for much cheaper at the time, i immediately took it up there and had him look at it. He tried firing it a few times, saw how it was acting weird, and took it off and put his tank on it, he looked at the batteries, then put them back in and sure enough, it worked just fine. I couldnt believe it. Hes said, "ya, definitely the coil is too low, use .5" i said " well, if it was too low, then wouldnt it refuse to fire the coil"? He said "No, it will still fire" i said, "AT MAX VOLTAGE"?? makes no sense...... He insisted he was right, and wouldnt really argue about it anymore, he didnt even want to help me with an RMA, said i should just use .5, even though his guy ASSURED me it would work fine. He wouldnt even sell me the .2 coils anymore, just the .5. Im so sick of vape shops, their total bs. Every single one ive been to ive had this same experience with. Man, their your best buddy and are so helpful when making a sell. But after that, oh its always your fault. Ironically, the same time i was in there, some guy had just purchased a mod that looks like a machine gun clip, it was like $250!!! The funny thing is. Right as he was gonna pay for it, the salesman took it out of the package and was showing it to him, he asked if he needed batteries for it. And the guy purchasing it pulled two batteries out of his mod and handed them to the salesman, he put the batteries in, turned it on and POP, smoke started poring out of it!!! Wow. Just so ironic. He pulled out the batteries and said, " man must be your batteries". At that point i had to try really hard not to say something. But anyway, they all do it, i havent had one take responsibility for their product.

But yes, i have a few rda's their not good for me and the work in do, really, no ecig is good for the work i do(construction). But ya, his assessment of it was, that the coil was so close to the min ohms that the device would run, that it was "changing" as i used it, thus making the device act weird. I still just this the device is flawed.

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i havent had one take responsibility for their product.

Well it is not like some online vendors try to do the same thing. That is why I like my credit card company, I don't let people rip me off, and I initiate charge backs, etc.

So the mod is working now with .5 ohm coils?
 
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Well it is not like some online vendors try to do the same thing. That is why I like my credit card company, I don't let people rip me off, and I initiate charge backs, etc.

So the mod is working now with .5 ohm coils?
What do you mean charge backs? And the only other coil i have is a herklies .6 coil, i read that they work in this tank, but it is even weirder, if i screw the tank all the way down on the mod, it wont fire, at all. The led doesnt even come on. But if i unscrew the tank some, it workes. But it sucks, i have to ramp it up to 4.8 volts to get any vapor, and even then the taste is muted
 

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Definitely sound like he's taking you for a ride. Sound like there is a problem with the mod. It should fire a .25 coil ok if it goes down to .2. If low resistance or high current protection was stepping in because of the coil it wouldn't fire and say low load or reduce power not fire at its max voltage. Him saying it's because the resistance of the coil changes over time in use is bs too. Resistance of coils goes up slightly over time not down.

I would go back and insist on a refund for the mod.
 

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Definitely sound like he's taking you for a ride. Sound like there is a problem with the mod. It should fire a .25 coil ok if it goes down to .2. If low resistance or high current protection was stepping in because of the coil it wouldn't fire and say low load or reduce power not fire at its max voltage. Him saying it's because the resistance of the coil changes over time in use is bs too. Resistance of coils goes up slightly over time not down.

I would go back and insist on a refund for the mod.
Its been over 30 days though. But i do think your right
 

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I mean, what do you think i should say, i know what hes gonna say, "oh we dont refund after 1 day blah blah blah". The only thing hes gonna offer is to help me RMA it through the maker of the mod. Which, is gonna cost me money and many weeks time plus nothing to vape on, i feel screwed....

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I'm sorry to hear all your Bad experiences.
Sadly most of them are individual misunderstanding and short sidedness.

You cannot just buy a Pan and expect to understand how to cook. You have to actually learn to cook.

No different with Vaping. Understanding how a part does its job will enlighten you to why it may be mis-performing. It will also reinforce your ability to make better choices in purchases.

Long story short, you need to work on your willingness to understand what you are doing.
I'm not trying to be rude, just simply motivational. I have helped many of my fellow workers get into vaping. Some had much more difficult times understanding any of it. others adapted immediately.
Put in the effort and you will reap the rewards.

As to juice - I totally understand. I got off smokes with a cappuccino flavor that turned out to be Boot-leg(counterfeit branded) The maker got caught and stopped. The actual original could not come close to his mix for full flavor. After dozens of attempts purchasing from many many vendors, I learned to DIY and made a few flavors I Really Enjoy. Now I need not search, I never run out of juice, I never have to worry about dealer stock or recipe changes and I save a ton of money that can go to other purchases.

Effort.
 
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You sound like me about 4 months ago trying to deal with FastTech and some faulty eGrips. Sorry about the problems you're having, I can relate. From what you're describing though it sounds like you're screwing the tank on too hard on the mod or maybe your coil isn't fully seated. Try tightening up the coil without over tightening it. Over tightening the coil/tank can be just as bad as it being loose. Some mods have a floating 510 pin, like my M80. If you put too much pressure on the pin the mod won't fire or it'll have some sort of "short circuit/fault protection". Try slipping an o-ring in between the tank and the mod but not inside the 510 socket. That should help alleviate that problem. As far as the juice flavor being muted there's a couple things you can try. Steeping the juice, letting the coil soak longer, put a healthy amount of juice in the coil itself, I know those BVC coils just suck up the juice when you're trying to prime them. If nothing else DIY is usually the best way to get the flavor that you want and you can make it much stronger than any juice you can buy from a vendor.
 

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I'm sorry to hear all your Bad experiences.
Sadly most of them are individual misunderstanding and short sidedness.

You cannot just but a Pan and expect to understand how to cook. You have to actually learn to cook.

No different with Vaping. Understanding how a part does its job will enlighten you to why it may be mis-performing. It will also reinforce your ability to make better choices in purchases.

Long story short, you need to work on your willingness to understand what you are doing.
I'm not trying to be rude, just simply motivational. I have helped many of my fellow workers get into vaping. Some had much more difficult times understanding any of it. others adapted immediately.
Put in the effort and you will reap the rewards.

As to juice - I totally understand. I got off smokes with a cappuccino flavor that turned out to be Boot-leg(counterfeit branded) The maker got caught and stopped. The actual original could not come close to his mix for full flavor. After dozens of attempts purchasing from many many vendors, I learned to DIY and made a few flavors I Really Enjoy. Now I need not search, I never run out of juice, I never have to worry about dealer stock or recipe changes and I save a ton of money that can go to other purchases.

Effort.
So.... Enlighten me on what i dont understand. I am all for constrictive criticism.
 

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I'm not familiar with the Starr atty myself, but are you priming the cotton before you use it? I learned the hard way with Nautilus coils that putting a couple drops of juice on the cotton at the holes in the side helps a lot. Just filling the tank with a new coil led to several ruined coils and nasty burnt cotton. I haven't used my Kanger SubTank once without putting a little juice on the wick, both in the middle and on the sides.
 

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I'm not familiar with the Starr atty myself, but are you priming the cotton before you use it? I learned the hard way with Nautilus coils that putting a couple drops of juice on the cotton at the holes in the side helps a lot. Just filling the tank with a new coil led to several ruined coils and nasty burnt cotton. I haven't used my Kanger SubTank once without putting a little juice on the wick, both in the middle and on the sides.
Yup, i always put atleast 5-8 drops in the middle, and one on each hole, then put it together, and let it sit for at least 10 mins. Ive been doing everything "right" as far as im aware, if its the obvious stuff then ive done it. Unless theres something technical im missing.
 
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