Fake vision spinner @ Fasttech [closed]

[Alien Traveler]

You have failed to point out where the OP is wrong. Adding the word "style" to something doesn't mean you've said it's a clone.

Sorry, but you failed to recognize that “style” means “not original” here. Would you ever think that Ford-style car is a genuine Ford? And “style” is wider than “clone”.

All that said, the OP merely stated that FT is not an official distributor of genuine Vision products and should not be thought of as such. The fact that regular users of FT already know their products are not all genuine doesn't make the OPs point any less true.

Merely stated? See what was written:
“Just goes to show that fast tech sells clones and cheap garbage”
And it is pure lie. I am not in love with fasttech, I just do not like to see lies about vendors.

 

[Kloudz]

Man.....I created a s... storm. I've never bought anything from fasttech for to the reviews of products on here and on there website. Just saying that from my opinion they sell crap. Look at all the vamo threads, innoken problem and problems. I think it's funny that people will constantly order crap after crap after crap of the Same model just to have problems.. I don't get it!

 

[Nana Gail]

If you have never done business with the company, you have no opinion that bears any weight! You only have a prejudice based on hearsay!

 

[Alien Traveler]

Man.....I created a s... storm. I've never bought anything from fasttech for to the reviews of products on here and on there website. Just saying that from my opinion they sell crap. Look at all the vamo threads, innoken problem and problems. I think it's funny that people will constantly order crap after crap after crap of the Same model just to have problems.. I don't get it!

You are right, you don't get it.

 

[joelmora89]

Kloudz never met u but I heard you stink. So Ima say you stink. (See what I did there).Now back to what I was gonna say . I have about 10 mechs and 15 various other atties that work as advertised. .......... so fast tech is good IF you know how to do it.

 

[SupplyDaddy]

I have gotten much of my vape ware from FastTech. Yep, I love 'em. I have had some crap, and I've had some total winners. I have an Aspire tank that was sold as "style".. turns out it was genuine, code passed the nautilus site screening. I had an ego no brand battery that lasted a few months. When I broke it apart after it stopped working, guess what battery was actually in it? Joytech... Had Joytech egos from Joytech fall apart after 2 days, so there is nothing that stops a real company sale from being any better or worse than FastTech.
Kanger and other companies have made the same type of statement in the past year or so. They too have been proven wrong. FastTech does, from time to time, get hold of "Authentic" devices. They may not have bought the items themselves from the "authorized" location, but that just makes them more like Overstock.com.

Yep, had a few Long shipping time buys, a couple that never made it to me (which FT fixed or gave my money back), but I've also had shipments arrived before paypal took the money out..

If you have no patience, FastTech is not for you.

 

[crxess]

Man.....I created a s... storm. I've never bought anything from fasttech for to the reviews of products on here and on there website. Just saying that from my opinion they sell crap. Look at all the vamo threads, innoken problem and problems. I think it's funny that people will constantly order crap after crap after crap of the Same model just to have problems.. I don't get it!

Simple - 90% of equipment failures is user error. No matter how mad someone is that they broke it, they will blame the manufacturer and often post a big Bla Bla complaint about the product. Then once calmed down they realize how much they were enjoying using it and Purchase a replacement.

Not to many Vamo owners actually get more than one defective Vamo. Once they realize what they did wrong, they adjust and enjoy the replacement.

This Act/Fact is not e-cig or China specific and includes almost everything purchased for use by consumers.

 

[Pinggolfer]

Sorry, but you failed to recognize that “style” means “not original” here. Would you ever think that Ford-style car is a genuine Ford? And “style” is wider than “clone”.



Merely stated? See what was written:
“Just goes to show that fast tech sells clones and cheap garbage”
And it is pure lie. I am not in love with fasttech, I just do not like to see lies about vendors.

So if it said Ford on it you would know it's not a Ford correct? The OP was taken by the pictures showing the name Vision. If it's not a Vision don't sell it with the name on it. Style means nothing to a new purchaser.

Would one think this is the real Kayfun Lite? $14.39 Kayfun Lite Styled Rebuildable Atomizer (4.5mL) - clear tank section at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping The same logo except the letter O is missing.

 

[AzPlumber]

I got a spinner II clone from them, but I knew it was a clone when I ordered it. Just wanted to check it out. The one I got is junk. You can spin the wheel but the voltages don't change. It is always at 3.7 volts. Also I'm not sure if it is supposed to do this or not, but I put a .5 ohm dual coil atomizer on it and it actually fires it. It's weak as heck of course, but it doe fire. Can't imagine that the real deal does that. You would think as a safety matter for beginners you would want it to cut out at 1 ohm at the very least.

Just a FYI - if you use a low resistance atomizer on a low amp regulated device you could max out the amps at 3.7v and it won't adjust any higher.

Example: a 1.5 ohm atomizer at 3.7 volts is almost 2.5 amp. On a 2.5 amp device the amps are maxed out so the device won't increase the voltage.

 

[Pinggolfer]

Simple - 90% of equipment failures is user error. No matter how mad someone is that they broke it, they will blame the manufacturer and often post a big Bla Bla complaint about the product. Then once calmed down they realize how much they were enjoying using it and Purchase a replacement.

Not to many Vamo owners actually get more than one defective Vamo. Once they realize what they did wrong, they adjust and enjoy the replacement.

This Act/Fact is not e-cig or China specific and includes almost everything purchased for use by consumers.

How would you misuse a Vamo? Who makes Vamo? Is it a company? Good to know most users only get one defective Vamo, and then they buy another one. A good way to save money.

 

[Zealous]

Sorry, but you failed to recognize that “style” means “not original” here. Would you ever think that Ford-style car is a genuine Ford? And “style” is wider than “clone”.



Merely stated? See what was written:
“Just goes to show that fast tech sells clones and cheap garbage”
And it is pure lie. I am not in love with fasttech, I just do not like to see lies about vendors.

I didn't fail to realize that. I pointed out that those who do not use FT might not be aware that "style" is synonymous with clone. I never once said I was one of those people. That doesn't mean that everyone is aware of that & that was my point in saying that.

As far as your second point, It's funny that you quoted that part of his post when that part is actually quite true. Fasttech DOES sell clones & cheap garbage. They also sell products of decent quality. The OP never said FT ONLY sells clones & cheap garbage.

I find it interesting that you have pointed out other people's failures repeatedly in this & another thread today but you can't seem to see that you are failing to read posts correctly. Give it a try. And perhaps refrain from jumping on the judgement wagon so quickly.

His main point, IS that FT is not a distributor Vision uses for their products. His main point IS NOT that FT sucks.

 

[crxess]

How would you misuse a Vamo? Who makes Vamo? Is it a company? Good to know most users only get one defective Vamo, and then they buy another one. A good way to save money.

Misuses:
1) Always running coils at the Low Limit - like driving with your foot to the floor all the time and expecting a motor to survive.
Burns out the module
2) Over tightening Atomizers trying to Flush or make secure to not wobble. This is a Atomizer build issue and not fixable by over tightening.
Damages the 510 and/or drives the center pin into the mod causing a short condition.

Vamo is also one of the Few Chinese mods that you can purchase replacement processor boards to repair.(cheap too)

Original Vamo is Rainbow Heaven - I own a First run Vamo. Two years old and still working. Vamo is now produced by or sold by several other Chinese Companies. It has become the EGO of China regulated mods.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Happens so that I have a vamo also. 5 month and running a a new one. 3-button interface is a marvel of convenience. Now while vaping I am accustomed to change wattage to my preference at the moment by simply pressing button without even looking at it. Who clicks up - one watt more, three clicks down - whatt and a half less. Easy. And I have found (thanks to vamo) that I need to change wattage quite often: for example, if my clearo is cold, I do need to lower wattage not to burn my wicks while my juice is too cold and too thick, and when my clearo was wormed up I can easily (not looking at interface) increase my wattage to get more from my already wormed up juice. Yes, I need to change wattage almost anytime I am vaping. Vamo is best for it.

 

[InTheShade]

Original Vamo is Rainbow Heaven - I own a First run Vamo. Two years old and still working. Vamo is now produced by or sold by several other Chinese Companies. It has become the EGO of China regulated mods.

I always thought KSD made the first Vamo. Now, Vamo seems to be a truly generic term for a device that looks a certain way. I bought one as my first mod (it's still going strong) marketed as a Bamboo mod by my local B&M. I've still to this day no idea who made it.

As for the reasons why we see 'so many issues' (a relative term, but I'll go with it) with them. First, it's a forum, people tend to seek out help or post when they are having problems. It's rare that someone will think to themselves wow, this device is working perfectly, let me join ECF to tell everyone. Add to this, a lot of new APV users are attracted to the Vamo as it's relatively inexpensive device and widely available.

Second, the sheer number of people using them means we're probably going to see more posts about issues with them.

I'm not denying that some users have issues with them - but I'll also wager that there is not a significantly greater percentage of those having issues with them that purchased them from FT.

 

[Kloudz]

Man... you guys blow a lot of stuff way outta proportion, I have ordered from fasttech and focal, never had a problem with the equipment that I have bought. Just saying THAT there are people who want the authentic stuff and don't get it because they didn't read the fine print. I'm not the bad guy nor am I bashing these companies. There is always some defective pieces from HUGE batches of products made, which in turn turn out to be garbage or junk. Look at the auto makers for example and all the recalls.

 

[ProjektMayhem]

I've looked at Alibaba.com a few times and I really think they're a scam. From what I gathered they're just a middle man kinda of like ebay. But something about their website just rubs me the wrong way. I don't know what it is but I would never buy anything from any seller on there. FastTech seems like they have good deals on clones. I'm thinking about ordering a few things from there pretty soon since they sell the same stuff cheaper than the local B&M.

FT is FT. Chinabuy, Healthcabin, FocalECig and several more. I'm more suspicious of Alibaba since they don't specifiy "style" but even they are what they are. Walk through Walmart. Generic vs. brand name. That's all it is. Sometimes it makes a difference and sometimes it doesn't.

 

[InTheShade]

Man... you guys blow a lot of stuff way outta proportion, I have ordered from fasttech and focal, never had a problem with the equipment that I have bought. Just saying THAT there are people who want the authentic stuff and don't get it because they didn't read the fine print. I'm not the bad guy nor am I bashing these companies. There is always some defective pieces from HUGE batches of products made, which in turn turn out to be garbage or junk. Look at the auto makers for example and all the recalls.

It's a discussion forum, that's the way it works. Virtually no thread will go the way you intend.

So long as everyone is respectful (not that it matters, but I think you have been) this is a pretty drama-free thread compared to some I have seen. Don't sweat it Kloudz, you're always going to get those with strong opinions for and against any opinion you may hold.

You'll also get people that like to post pictures of tacos.

 

[monkey39]

 

[InTheShade]

I'm pretty sure that this post is against the rules of the forum.