Family members think its still smoking!!!! NEED HELP
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I really wouldn't invest your time and effort into this. Apparently he and your wife are both convinced you must be doing something wrong if you can quit without it being a total suck .... experience. Since he doesn't seem to have a logical argument as to why vaping = smoking what's the point in trying to argue otherwise? Let it go. You are the one invested in quitting - not him or not even your wife as far as your success in all this goes. If it works (and it does) vape for yourself and consider putting less energy into convincing him, her or the world as to what it is. Best of luck to your wife, but if that whole patch thing doesn't work out so good she should know what her next attempt will involve and won't have to go very far to try it.
If some ex-smoker started giving me flak and calling me a cheater, I'd probably respond with "Yes, yes I am" and walk away while enjoying a sweet, non-tobacco flavored/scented vape
Maybe when he quit cold-turkey he spent some time on one of those quit-smoking websites where they preach about the nicodemon.
Those people are brain-washed and ignorant, and you'll never convince them otherwise.
When someone tells me I am still smoking because I use nicotine, I tell them they are either either ignorant or stupid.
And then I let them pick which one they prefer that I call them from now on.
But then, I've never been one to mince words or try to be socially acceptable.
Well, except maybe here on this forum.
Those people are brain-washed and ignorant, and you'll never convince them otherwise.
When someone tells me I am still smoking because I use nicotine, I tell them they are either either ignorant or stupid.
And then I let them pick which one they prefer that I call them from now on.
But then, I've never been one to mince words or try to be socially acceptable.
Well, except maybe here on this forum.
There you go. It is the hand to mouth that is driving them crazy! But some people can do cold turkey, some cannot. All you can do is look at him with fake admiration, tell him he is a hero, turn around and enjoy your vaping yumminess. Repeat a year later.
First, you will probably never convince them otherwise. 2ND, Even if it IS still smoking, it is NONE of my families business. My family (nor anyone else)dictates my actions. But then they learned this 35 years ago so they don't even bother. If I had not found vaping, I would still be smoking. YMMV
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My wife, really the only ones opinion that matters to me has been great through out the whole process. She has been my go to support. She has tried all my flavors and told me what she liked and didn't. I have been keeping track of what she likes and if she starts to struggle I have a device for her. Really the only ones that seem to get up an arms over this, are the exsmokers. Once again, Thanks for the advice and support.
Rather than arguing with your brother or trying to convince him that vaping isn't smoking, give him the kudos he deserves for quitting cold turkey. And just casually share with him how not smoking cigarettes has benefited you. You both have that part in common.
Honestly, many ex-smokers won't see you as a non-smoker until you "quit puffing, quit inhaling, quit the hand to mouth, quit blowing money for a pacifier and quit planning for your next fix". The part in quotes is taken from a post by an ex-smoker who quit cold turkey and who considers vaping still smoking. In other words, don't expect him to ever be on board with vaping. Just accept that. He doesn't have to agree with you for you to benefit from vaping.
Honestly, many ex-smokers won't see you as a non-smoker until you "quit puffing, quit inhaling, quit the hand to mouth, quit blowing money for a pacifier and quit planning for your next fix". The part in quotes is taken from a post by an ex-smoker who quit cold turkey and who considers vaping still smoking. In other words, don't expect him to ever be on board with vaping. Just accept that. He doesn't have to agree with you for you to benefit from vaping.
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People will see it as if smoke is coming out of your mouth then your smoking, being a vaper people still think its smoking because that's what society has labeled people who smoke. But all that should maker is that you and your wife know that you made a healthy great choice to
Better your life and health! And that's what should only matter to you two!
Better your life and health! And that's what should only matter to you two!
With people like that I just stand firm "How is it smoking when there is no smoke? You know how ignorant it is to assume it's smoking just because it looks the same?" If they get piffed, I just repeat myself. "Can't be smoking when there is no smoke" and leave it at that.
This is the route I would of went with family if they had an attitude about it. If I've tried and tried to explain and people don't want to understand, that would be my last resort stand. I wouldn't ever cower and agree "Oh yes I'm smoking" My health screams from the rooftop, otherwise.
This is the route I would of went with family if they had an attitude about it. If I've tried and tried to explain and people don't want to understand, that would be my last resort stand. I wouldn't ever cower and agree "Oh yes I'm smoking" My health screams from the rooftop, otherwise.
And frankly, I don't much care about their opinion.
I'm a former active-duty Marine. There's nothing they can say to me that hasn't been said to me before.
Of course not. What I'm advocating is saying "ok" in such a way they know you really mean "Kiss my....atomizer".
Huh... You know what I see?
I see an ex-smoker who quit cold turkey who is frustrated because he KNOWS he wants to try an e-cigarette. He's probably very frustrated because he feels like he wants to start smoking again - shoot, I have quit in the past and started back again. A friend of mine quit for 18 years and ended up smoking again!
His pride won't let him start a new habit because now he's on the "ANYTHING NICOTINE RELATED IS EVIL" pile of soapboxes and if he quit cold turkey everyone else should too! Why should anyone have any fun while he is miserable? He doesn't want to be judged!
That's what I see... Jealousy, envy, frustration.
Tell him you'll give him a PV that he can sneak in the bathroom. No one will know You wont judge.
I might be totally off base with this, but this is what I've found to be the case with most ex-smokers. I'm just waiting for my brother to chime in about my vaping. We're not speaking at the moment though. Regardless, my brother quit smoking cold turkey but he enjoys other burning leaves... If you catch the whiff... err drift.
I see an ex-smoker who quit cold turkey who is frustrated because he KNOWS he wants to try an e-cigarette. He's probably very frustrated because he feels like he wants to start smoking again - shoot, I have quit in the past and started back again. A friend of mine quit for 18 years and ended up smoking again!
His pride won't let him start a new habit because now he's on the "ANYTHING NICOTINE RELATED IS EVIL" pile of soapboxes and if he quit cold turkey everyone else should too! Why should anyone have any fun while he is miserable? He doesn't want to be judged!
That's what I see... Jealousy, envy, frustration.
Tell him you'll give him a PV that he can sneak in the bathroom. No one will know
You wont judge.I might be totally off base with this, but this is what I've found to be the case with most ex-smokers. I'm just waiting for my brother to chime in about my vaping. We're not speaking at the moment though. Regardless, my brother quit smoking cold turkey but he enjoys other burning leaves... If you catch the whiff... err drift.
Do whatever works for you, and you're comfortable with when handling such a situation. I don't tolerate Bologna & Swiss very well.
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