Still Smoking In My Dreams

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Beamslider

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I had really bad nightmares for a couple of years like that. Turned out to be my BP medicine. Cut it in half and sleeping mostly good now. Helps to watch boring shows b4 I go to sleep also.
Yes some of the BP meds are terrible for causing extremely weird dreams.....Had to switch off several of them.
 

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    Yes some of the BP meds are terrible for causing extremely weird dreams.....Had to switch off several of them.
    Gonna try next dr visit. No weird dreams here, screaming nightmares of horrible stuff. Kicked the wifey hard in the leg last night trying to defend myself against some horrid beast. Waking up screaming isn't so good for the heart. Kicking the wife isn't a healthy alternative either, lol.
     

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    I'd imagine that you'd still have those dreams even if you were using gum or patches or nothing at all (no nic, no vape, nothing). To me, this is an indication that vaping and smoking are DIFFERENT things. If they weren't, you wouldn't even be surprised, would you?

    Further, you had a long time making smoking memories you said it was a 30 year PPD habit. So yeah, that's 20x365x30 experiences floating around in your noggin. And at night you get nic cravings after a while as your body depletes the nic.

    All in all I wouldn't even worry about it, and just laugh it off. I don't think it actually "means" much at all, other than you had a lot of experiences of smoking a cig. Heck, you might have a dream about swimming or the beach, but that doesn't mean you need a bath. It's just that these are life experiences. And with even a small nic craving while asleep, I'm not surprised that those "quick hit from cig" memories would come up.

    I wonder if any long term smokers turned vapers have NOT had those dreams. Don't even get me started on the advertising and subliminal/circumstantial images you were exposed to in media and life experiences too.

    I'm not sure I remember any dreams where I was vaping, come to think of it. But I don't have too many smoking dreams either (but once in a while, sure).
     

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    Never had a dream about smoking, or vaping for that matter. I started smoking in the early 80's.

    R77, I take Prazosin for my nightmares. I also take 200mg of seroquel so I can sleep at night. When I take it, being that its 4 am right now I obviously didn't take it today lol. I probably just won't sleep today.

    I don't take blood pressure meds though. My nightmares are strictly due to my psychosis. I actually have these visions all day long, not just when I am asleep, but when I am sleeping they really ramp up and become real. My doctors call it "intrusive thoughts". Before I started taking meds to help I just called it bat s*** crazy lol.
     

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    Never had a dream about smoking, or vaping for that matter. I started smoking in the early 80's.

    R77, I take Prazosin for my nightmares. I also take 200mg of seroquel so I can sleep at night. When I take it, being that its 4 am right now I obviously didn't take it today lol. I probably just won't sleep today.

    I don't take blood pressure meds though. My nightmares are strictly due to my psychosis. I actually have these visions all day long, not just when I am asleep, but when I am sleeping they really ramp up and become real. My doctors call it "intrusive thoughts". Before I started taking meds to help I just called it bat s*** crazy lol.

    If your bat sh** crazy then we all are. Watch that seroquel..it can cause you to be diabetic and have muscle twitches. Far better drugs for you to be on..in my opinion given.
     
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    DeAnna, giving medication advice over the internet is not wise in my opinion. This is one of the Very Few times I actually used my disagree button, I feel that strongly about it. Please don't do it. You don't know this person, what he's tried, and what your "well meaning" thoughts might cause him to do, y'know?

    By the way, I take Seroquel, and I have tried other atypical antipsychotics (sorry, this is not usually something I discuss that much). It is the ONLY atypical antipsychotic that has worked well for me (and I was dx in 1999, so I've been around the block a few times.) I actually take metformin and zetia (anti-diabetes drug, and cholesterol lowering drug) to mitigate the side effects, and frankly, I am in good health in both those arenas, but my doc wished me to do so prophylactically.

    Even doctors won't practice medicine over the internet, without consents. @Paul Mohr, if you have concerns about any of the above, please consult your doctor, okay?

    Anna
     

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    Also, reading more closely, they aren't "muscle twitches", it's called tardive dyskinesia (TD) and that is actually a feature of TYPICAL anti-psychotics, not the atypical ones. The rate of TD in atypical-antipsychotics is INCREDIBLY low, and has mostly been seen in bipolar women, not men period. Doctors typically do TD checks every 6 months or so, to rule it out, even though it's incredibly unlikely, and it is serious, but the reason the checks are done is that TD is typically REVERSIBLE if caught in time is the latest information (that also includes the TYPICAL antipsychotics). Please at least get your facts straight before telling someone to worry about their medications. It's pretty clear that you aren't a doctor, so don't play one on the internet, and I hope this isn't the kind of advice you are giving out to "your" patients, as it is ill-informed and misguided. I don't want to get into an argument over this but I feel very, very strongly about it and I DO feel the need to correct the misinformation and request that you not do this again..... :(

    Anna
     

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    Like Anna I have tried a TON of different meds and I have tried some that were worse than this. And my psychiatrist is very good about explaining side effects to me and give me the option to try something new if what I am on isn't working.

    I already twitch, so that isn't really an issue. This doesn't seem to make it any worse though and it helps with my intrusive thoughts. I take a smaller dose during the day, and a larger dose at night to make me sleep. I am actually going to talk to them about cutting the dose to 100 at night, I had them raise it last year after I got out of the stress unit but I don't think I need it that high anymore.

    If I remember correctly the reasoning for starting it was because I was on depakote for one thing, and another drug for something else. The thinking was that this would cover both issues for me.

    I also take prozac, hydroxyz and have klonopin if I need it, but I rarely take that.

    All I know is this is the most stable I have felt in 20 years. I don't have visions of killing people while waiting in line at walmart and the furnace doesn't whisper to me anymore. I still don't like to leave the house if I don't have to though.

    And honestly, from the research I have done and talking with my doctors there really aren't any long term studies on the side effects of any of these drugs. So we honestly don't know what effect they will have over a long period of time.

    With my lifestyle as a youth I honestly didn't think I would live past my 30's, so anything after that has just been a bonus for me lol.
     

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    DeAnna, giving medication advice over the internet is not wise in my opinion. This is one of the Very Few times I actually used my disagree button, I feel that strongly about it. Please don't do it. You don't know this person, what he's tried, and what your "well meaning" thoughts might cause him to do, y'know?

    By the way, I take Seroquel, and I have tried other atypical antipsychotics (sorry, this is not usually something I discuss that much). It is the ONLY atypical antipsychotic that has worked well for me (and I was dx in 1999, so I've been around the block a few times.) I actually take metformin and zetia (anti-diabetes drug, and cholesterol lowering drug) to mitigate the side effects, and frankly, I am in good health in both those arenas, but my doc wished me to do so prophylactically.

    Even doctors won't practice medicine over the internet, without consents. @Paul Mohr, if you have concerns about any of the above, please consult your doctor, okay?

    Anna

    I am not giving medical advice over the internet, just pointing out issues with this med. Your a very friendly person stol and reasonable. You said to stop, i will because it upsets you and leave it at that. Had a family member have a very bad experience with this med and i will leave it at that out of respect for you because i like you and think your speaking from your heart per your experience.
     
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    I never dream about smoking. Cant recall if i ever did, even when i was still smoking.
    I just remembered! I did dream about smoking once!

    It was decades ago. In my dream, I had been executed by having my head chopped off. I was still walking around, getting my affairs in order. I remember worrying about the kids maybe getting upset if they saw me without a head.

    I know. How the h**l was I walking around and thinking without a head? Well, it was a dream after all.

    Anyway, my main concerns were:
    1. I did not want to be born again and have to endure another childhood. (Don't ask me. I didn't particularly believe in reincarnation. Had never really thought much about it.)
    2. I wouldn't have a body anymore and wouldn't be able to smoke!!!!!
     
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    As for this whole medical advice thing when you are talking about prescription drugs it is kind of a mute point. In the end you are going to have to get it from a physician anyway. So hopefully it is something you discuss with them before hand. If they don't think it is a good idea they will tell you. If your doctor just writes a prescription for whatever you ask for, I think maybe you should see a different doctor. I once asked for abilify or whatever it is because I saw it on TV. My psychiatrist said no, and that he wished those kinds of commercials were illegal.

    And since latudua is a bi polar medication ( which I am not by the way, Depression/anxiety and unspecified psychosis in my diagnoses) I would hope you would have a good psychiatrist. I don't think your family doctor should be treating a bi polar disorder.
     
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