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Pictor

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When I first got my mvp 2 I read an article from I think it was the Battery University where they reckoned that lithium chemistry batteries give their best performance and longest life when charged at 3.6 volts remaining and taken off charge at 4.1 volts. On the mvp owners thread they have a ...... charge early and charge often due to the fact that lithium batteries have no memory
I must say it seems to be right, my mvp has never seen even the yellow indicator and it still performs like new after almost a year

The missing word is m a n t r a, seems strange not allowing that, I apologise if the word gives any offense

Well I'll start charging this one in particular when I see it around 25% left! ;)

As for 'that word' ...haven't a clue whey unless they think you're trying to send subliminal vibes :laugh
Merriam Webster: ....'a mystical formula of invocation or incantation'
Wiki: 'The most basic m--tra is Om' ....Nuttin wrong with 'Om' :)

Nite Vince :)
 

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I'm trying my first build with the rayon you linked for me and I'm very impressed, the strand I got was inconsistent in density but that is easily sorted, tastes like a different juice

Yes the flavours really shine with rayon vince, much better than cotton imho .
 

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Well I'll start charging this one in particular when I see it around 25% left! ;)

As for 'that word' ...haven't a clue whey unless they think you're trying to send subliminal vibes :laugh
Merriam Webster: ....'a mystical formula of invocation or incantation'
Wiki: 'The most basic m--tra is Om' ....Nuttin wrong with 'Om' :)

Nite Vince :)

Thought you`d buggered off to bed :laugh:

Night All.
 

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Yes the flavours really shine with rayon vince, much better than cotton imho .

I can't decide if I prefer japanese organic cotton or rayon.

Used rayon for ages but since japanese cotton became all the rage got some and tbh they both work fine for me.

Flavour is very very slightly different (not better or worse really) but wicking with rayon is a little easier I find.
 

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Thinking of changing my coils from 28awg to 26 or 24awg. Reason. I'm thinking it might be easier to work with, think it's more wraps for the same resistance so better wick coverage, thicker will go better in post holes less cutting them when tightening down and might last a bit longer because less fragile.
 

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Thinking of changing my coils from 28awg to 26 or 24awg. Reason. I'm thinking it might be easier to work with, think it's more wraps for the same resistance so better wick coverage, thicker will go better in post holes less cutting them when tightening down and might last a bit longer because less fragile.

Yeah I'd agree with all of that but something to consider is that thicker wire takes longer to heat up, so building to the same resistance as you're used to with 28ga and vaping it at the same power it might take a while to get hot. Depends on your builds though, try it and see how it goes.
 

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Yeah I'd agree with all of that but something to consider is that thicker wire takes longer to heat up, so building to the same resistance as you're used to with 28ga and vaping it at the same power it might take a while to get hot. Depends on your builds though, try it and see how it goes.
So higher watts should help that yes? Resistance, should I go lower or higher?
 

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So higher watts should help that yes? Resistance, should I go lower or higher?

Higher watts would be more suited for thicker wire yeah.

As for lower/higher ohms you might find it works ok at the same resistance level if you up the watts, but then you'll be vaping at a higher power, depends on what you want to achieve. I definitely wouldn't aim to go higher resistance with a thicker wire compared to your 28ga coils because they'll be too big then.

Think about how the stock OCC coils for the subtank series work.

The 0.5 ohm coil is made with 24 or 26ga I think and has a recommended wattage range of 20-30 (I think).
The 1.2 ohm coil is made with 28ga probably and has a recommended wattage range of 15-25 (I think).

Those numbers might not be exact but that's the gist of it. You can take the 28ga down to 15W but the 26ga or 24ga wouldn't be a great vape down that low. Conversely you can take the 24 or 26ga up to 30W but the thinner 28ga would burn a little at that high.

I've rambled but hope that helps a little.
 

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Thinking of changing my coils from 28awg to 26 or 24awg. Reason. I'm thinking it might be easier to work with, think it's more wraps for the same resistance so better wick coverage, thicker will go better in post holes less cutting them when tightening down and might last a bit longer because less fragile.

Before you decide go onto the steam engine coil wrapping site and enter all the parameters for the coil you're using, including entering the wattage in the heat flux box,and take note of the number ( heat flux ), that will tell you your ideal vape for that particular coil, next go to the wire gauge box and enter the gauge of your intended wire then back to the heat flux box and increase the wattage value until you get to the same number as before, this will tell you if the mod you've got will handle the extra power requirements of the higher res wire you're intending using
My orchids were buggers for nipping the wire so I got some wet & dry and put a small radius on the screws, it's a bit fiddly and you have to be careful not to cross thread them but it works, you could try putting a piece of scrap wire in the post hole with the coil legs or trap the wire under the screw head instead of using the post holes, the latter is a PITA with 28g but fine for 30 and higher
 

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Thanks guys will have a play on steam. I have mods that go up to 30w and plenty of mech mods and a dovpo gx200 a dual battery mech mod so I think I have plenty of power now no matter which way I go. It's just the juice, flavours coils and wicks I'm still experimenting with, so many options to choose from.
 

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Due to the coil on my Orchid finally giving up late last night, thought I would try one of my Infinite KF4s with the Bell cap, coiled it up with 29g Kanthal 2.1 ohm and some Rayon, it really looks nice with the Bell cap and vaping great at 15w and with lung hits is producing clouds of vapour, removed the AFC grub screw of course, and with MBV Graham Cracker the flavour is great as well.
 

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Just arrived. And looks like a big learning curve coming.
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Just arrived. And looks like a big learning curve coming.
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Is that the Tobeco one, have a look at the PBusardo or Todd videos, the main thing is the juice control - hold the base in your left hand fingers and turn everything else towards you to close it off, you can then remove the tip and connector to fill it, just remember to open it up afterwards before vaping.
 

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Had a look on the cloupor facebook page again today to read the posts to the page.

Anyway there's a guy with a cloupor mini whose unit smokes when the battery is put in but it looks like it still works (or at least did long enough for him to take pics). It shows the "too hot" message and that the screen goes blurry. It's not great but from our point of view (cloupor mini users who have had no issues yet and did the 15s 30w test fire thing) it at least shows the mod is capable of that error message. Also if my mod's screen went blurry like that I think I would remove the battery pretty sharpish anyway!
 

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Just arrived. And looks like a big learning curve coming.
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you will absolutely love it dave. As you say, they are a bit of a learning curve, but once you `have it` you will really enjoy it. Like bob says, it`s only the juice flow what you need to get your melon around :)
 
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