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[terry w]

It seems that just as we think we have exactly what we need/want, something either stops working properly or someone brings out a new 'must have'

I had to read that twice before I realised what you meant ..it was the name 'Dibley' that enlightened me

Well one thing I won't be queuing to buy is the next release of Philip Rocke!
I just tried what is still in the tank again, and think I know where the supposed coffee taste is coming from - I've tried enough NET liquids in the past couple of months to recognise one when I taste it. No wonder I saw a couple of reviews saying they couldn't get the unpleasant smell of it out of their tank.
I do know that there's at least one NET that gives off coffee nuances (I found a website specialising in NET flavouring liquids a while back). It doesn't taste of coffee to me though - not a nice clean taste at all!
Still, it explains why a lot of people do like it.

Have you found a decent coffee yet trish, just plain coffee ?

 

[Pictor]

Have you found a decent coffee yet trish, just plain coffee ?

Might have been SNG's Cheerio Java, but I'll need to check back ..think I mentioned them in this thread as I was trying them I may not look until tomorrow though

 

[Brynglas]

Five Pawns do a coffee,called Black flag fallen Trish, but ratios are no good for you.
Like the PR i have seen a lot of it in the classies and therefore been put off trying it.Coffee must be a difficult one to get right.
Generally i like Five Pawns but this one doesn't seem a success.

Wonder if the Gemini and ANML juices are all hype aswell.

 

[terry w]

Vinne/Adam. Your Lemo`s were posted this morning

 

[dw117]

Vinne/Adam. Your Lemo`s were posted this morning

Cheers pal. I'll get you that 61p soon I promise

 

[Bobw1951]

Just got confirmation that I got the 2 tips last night and they are en-route to me.

 

[vince01]

Vinne/Adam. Your Lemo`s were posted this morning

Cheers bud

 

[Bobw1951]

Re: my JustBottles order, have just tried the 2 Beard ones and both are very nice, especially the No.51 - Vanilla Custard, also been trying a couple of the King's Crown ones, Claim your Throne & Fight the Fate and they are both nice as well, although the latter doesn't appear very lemony.

Still got The King (King's Crown), Lemon Bar (Clouds of Icarus [70/30 VG/PG]) & Mother's Milk (Suicide Bunny) to try.

 

[Pictor]

Five Pawns do a coffee,called Black flag fallen Trish, but ratios are no good for you.
Like the PR i have seen a lot of it in the classies and therefore been put off trying it.Coffee must be a difficult one to get right.
Generally i like Five Pawns but this one doesn't seem a success.

Wonder if the Gemini and ANML juices are all hype as well.

Not sure about Five Pawns as a brand ....I know it's popular but I've seen people say it's overpriced and that NT is better when they've tried it - who knows!
As for Gemini ANML, I doubt I'll try them!

Got my hopes up for Crucible by Alloy blends - no-one is clear on the PG/VG ratios (again!) I've emailed them but remains to be seen if they bother to answer.

Re: my JustBottles order, have just tried the 2 Beard ones and both are very nice, especially the No.51 - Vanilla Custard, also been trying a couple of the King's Crown ones, Claim your Throne & Fight the Fate and they are both nice as well, although the latter doesn't appear very lemony.

Still got The King (King's Crown), Lemon Bar (Clouds of Icarus [70/30 VG/PG]) & Mother's Milk (Suicide Bunny) to try.

I've had the Claim Your Throne for a while now - yes, it is nice! Mothers Milk is also nice too (high PG for me but I can add some PG free to it)

 

[Bobw1951]

I've had the Claim Your Throne for a while now - yes, it is nice! Mothers Milk is also nice too (high PG for me but I can add some PG free to it)

I've just enquired on their site (SB) what the PG/VG ratios are for their juices - another one that doesn't state what they contain.
I think this should be made mandatory for all Juices that the labels contain the ratio as well as child proof tops (noticed the Beard ones didn't, probably why JB sent the extra caps in the parcel)

 

[Bobw1951]

Terry, think you were watching Penny Dreadful - it's S2 next month - I'm just in the middle of watching S1 on Catch Up

 

[terry w]

Cheers pal. I'll get you that 61p soon I promise

Hmmmm

 

[terry w]

Terry, think you were watching Penny Dreadful - it's S2 next month - I'm just in the middle of watching S1 on Catch Up

Yes i have seen it advertised Bob I watched the 1st series again on catch up i enjoyed it that much. Hoping S2 will be as good !

 

[Pictor]

I've just enquired on their site (SB) what the PG/VG ratios are for their juices - another one that doesn't state what they contain.
I think this should be made mandatory for all Juices that the labels contain the ratio as well as child proof tops (noticed the Beard ones didn't, probably why JB sent the extra caps in the parcel)

I do agree - it's an important factor. I'm seeing more and more people finding they have issues with PG (and VG too) - if it means the difference between people being able to use e-cigs or not, then it's even more important from the suppliers point of view, if only for the potential profits.

NT have gone through the process of compliance with the standards (AEMSA I think) - childproof caps, glass bottles, full details on labels.
Plenty haven't yet though, but from what I see, a lot that have begun supplying EU retailers are doing so, and that's also why they're starting to state the full value and content of packages sent from the US. Think it's part of the conditions for remaining registered. But, I don't know if disclosure of PG/VG ratios is a condition.

With SB, Spiritus and Justbottles seem to have the ratios shown on their sites.
Trouble is, on Justbottles, I've already found two brands with wrong information on either all or some of their range. They've already changed one though.
I suspect that whoever puts the info on the websites will check to ratio for one flavour and assume all are the same, and it's simply not always so throughout a range.

I also found some wrong information on a couple at UK E Cigstore. I think until or unless it's made standard procedure to mark labels with it, those needing accurate information will need to be vigilant.

 

[Bobw1951]

I do agree - it's an important factor. I'm seeing more and more people finding they have issues with PG (and VG too) - if it means the difference between people being able to use e-cigs or not, then it's even more important from the suppliers point of view, if only for the potential profits.

NT have gone through the process of compliance with the standards (AEMSA I think) - childproof caps, glass bottles, full details on labels.
Plenty haven't yet though, but from what I see, a lot that have begun supplying EU retailers are doing so, and that's also why they're starting to state the full value and content of packages sent from the US. Think it's part of the conditions for remaining registered. But, I don't know if disclosure of PG/VG ratios is a condition.

With SB, Spiritus and Justbottles seem to have the ratios shown on their sites.
Trouble is, on Justbottles, I've already found two brands with wrong information on either all or some of their range. They've already changed one though.
I suspect that whoever puts the info on the websites will check to ratio for one flavour and assume all are the same, and it's simply not always so throughout a range.

I also found some wrong information on a couple at UK E Cigstore. I think until or unless it's made standard procedure to mark labels with it, those needing accurate information will need to be vigilant.

Yes, I think Standardisation of labelling & bottles is a must with nic level in both % and mg/ml PG/VG ratio and ingredients, and now it has been proven that nicotine is no more dangerous than caffeine the silly plastic warning sticker could be done away with (the diamond shaped one, I always remove them anyway).

Not sure I like the idea of glass bottles myself - they can break whereas plastic doesn't - also I would like to see better nozzles that can actually fit into the feed holes of tanks like the Kayfuns, Lemos etc. rather than have to faff about using blunt needles & syringes.

 

[Pictor]

Just seen Peoples Vape available here: https://www.ukecigstore.com/e-liqui...118482321&mc_cid=736ff59948&mc_eid=d82ed4e8fc

I'd heard of Kremlin months ago, but the ratio was obscure and it wasn't shipped to the UK at that time.
The Cosmonaut isn't for me, but the other three could be good.
Kremlin sounds rather nice, but (for me) only if the cinnamon is mild, and a few reviews seem to say that it is! 85% VG.
Manifesto - a rich unusual coffee which may be worth trying, and has good reviews as a well flavoured coffee liquid.
Tundra - Frosty blackberry, lime & citrus (first two flavours could work against me, but I can almost taste it!)

Also - Got a welcome quick reply from Nicks Blissful Brews: Swag is indeed 70% VG! So Justbottles were correct, and UKECigStore were not!

And: I found some Beard ratios:

#05 - 60%
#32 - 60%
#64 - 70%
#51 - 85%
#88 - 80%

That's quite a variation, and I'm not too sure how accurate they are

 

[Bobw1951]

Trish, further to above reply, I downloaded the AEMSA pdf, and although it mentions nic percentages on labels and childproof caps it doesn't state about PG/VG ratio or the material for the bottles - I have asked them to include the PG/VG ratio into their rules.

 

[Pictor]

Yes, I think Standardisation of labelling & bottles is a must with nic level in both % and mg/ml PG/VG ratio and ingredients, and now it has been proven that nicotine is no more dangerous than caffeine the silly plastic warning sticker could be done away with (the diamond shaped one, I always remove them anyway).

100% agree! - I do think the nicotine content still warrants a warning logo though - it may not be harmful to us, but it can burn skin (I've already done that by resting my wrist on a spilt drop on my mousepad and not noticing until it began to itch a fair bit later) and it's harmful to pets and perhaps children. Depends on the strength of the nicotine of course, and I doubt what we use is too harmful, but it's best to be on the side of safety.

Not sure I like the idea of glass bottles myself - they can break whereas plastic doesn't - also I would like to see better nozzles that can actually fit into the feed holes of tanks like the Kayfuns, Lemos etc. rather than have to faff about using blunt needles & syringes.

I like the plastic bottles best too, but for reasons of sterilisation/hygiene etc., it's apparently the 'standard' for compliance. Also, it would seem it's better for the longevity of the liquid too
Velvet Cloud offer an option.
With the glass bottles that have droppers, they don't fit into my small chest of 6 drawers, but I've recently bought some small paper covered storage boxes that are excellent for the purpose, and can take 50ml bottles with droppers. (My desk is slowly reappearing as they move into their new boxes! )
I've kept all my Chefs plastic bottles and could use them for decanting from glass ones ..only thing missing is of course those smart labels!
You could of course use glass droppers from the chemist, but if they don't fit the bottles then you'll have a sticky object to either wipe clean or rest on a tissue gathering 'dust'

 

[Pictor]

Trish, further to above reply, I downloaded the AEMSA pdf, and although it mentions nic percentages on labels and childproof caps it doesn't state about PG/VG ratio or the material for the bottles - I have asked them to include the PG/VG ratio into their rules.

Nice one Bob! - I'm surprised they didn't think of it as a possible bone of contention with legislation/FDA

 

[Pictor]

Have you found a decent coffee yet trish, just plain coffee ?

Right, I found my previous thoughts on the coffee ones:

These are the best I found so far:
SNG Cheerio Java (ordered with an extra shot)
Indigo 5 Bucks
Heathers Mocha Java

The Highbrow Tiramisu (with extra flavour) has decent creamy coffee flavour with very little chocolate at all. I'll try their other coffee one again too to make sure what I thought of that one!

I haven't tried:
MBV Morning Vape
MBV Caramel Coffee

I'll be trying the Alloy Crucible soon, and perhaps the People Vape Manifesto too. Both coffee.