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kilo? .... In case anyone uses it, I've just seen an email from vape & E-Cig Store stating:

With November 20th getting ever closer we have been notified that we will no longer be able to get 30ml, 60ml (Black Series) and120ml bottles of kilo E Liquid that contain nicotine from our supplier.

Apparently they've had their last delivery, so no doubt others may be close to the same.
 

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I do know that usually, most things have a cheaper alternative that isn't always equal, but I don't really understand how Juice Cabin can sell 250ml of .3mg base liquid for £4.25, when 140ml of what appears to be the same costs £5.99 at Chefs.

Pre-mixed unflavoured PG, VG and nicotine base mix in 250ml bottles
Pharmaceutical USP grade Vegetable Glycerin

Nicotine Pre-Mix 100% VG - ChefsVapour
100% Vegetable Glycerin Organic EP Ecocert - Extrapure Brand (Fr.)

Is it something to do with either purity, or the organic status perhaps?
 
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I think Les Pickering(JC) is just that type of guy Trish.
Retired,not short of money. Converted part of his property to a clean room and is content with that level of profit.
I've been wary of trying other suppliers because I once had some that I could taste, and didn't like it! The one from Chefs has no taste, and that's why I wondered about the source or type.
Think I may try some! :)

My 180ml bottle of Moku Oyatsu arrived.
180ml bottle with free post £45,six 30ml bottles(6 x £15)would cost £90, BIG difference.
Hate to think what it would have cost in 10ml's(btw,they don't pack them that small, yet:-x).
I can only see them in the 180ml in this country, and the smallest I see in the US is 15ml.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of US brands become unavailable in the UK because of it - unless they were willing to bottle for the UK/EU market ...or the UK retailers were willing to do it!
 
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I've been wary of trying other suppliers because I once had some that I could taste, and didn't like it! The one from Chefs has no taste, and that's why I wondered about the source or type.
Think I may try some! :)

I've watched a lot of Les on YT,and yes he likes to clown around and dress up.But i think he's one of the good guys.He rang me regarding my order for base,i ordered 2x250ml and he'd run out of bottles and wanted to know if it was ok in one 500ml.It was just nice to be asked.I used his base for my LDC,i don't get a taste.


I can only see them in the 180ml in this country, and the smallest I see in the US is 15ml.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of US brands become unavailable in the UK because of it - unless they were willing to bottle for the UK/EU market ...or the UK retailers were willing to do it!

30ml's available here Trish.....(i bought my 180 elsewhere)

Custom Vapes UK

In the link i posted from your link the other day:),it said,a lot of U.S juice makers were considering re-locating over here because of the FDA rulings.
 

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I've watched a lot of Les on YT,and yes he likes to clown around and dress up.But i think he's one of the good guys.He rang me regarding my order for base,i ordered 2x250ml and he'd run out of bottles and wanted to know if it was ok in one 500ml.It was just nice to be asked.I used his base for my LDC,i don't get a taste.

30ml's available here Trish.....(i bought my 180 elsewhere)

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Juice Cabin sounds good then - thanks :) I'll take a look at Custom Vapes too ...thanks for the info!

In the link i posted from your link the other day:),it said,a lot of U.S juice makers were considering re-locating over here because of the FDA rulings.
Ah! That sounds good ....hope it happens! :)

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Chefs Concentrates :) Plenty of mixing to be done this weekend ! Trish, i got a rather large order of VG/PG and Nicotine from Juice Cabin, and as George says, no untoward taste at all :)
Good to hear Terry - thanks. I've never chanced any from another supplier apart from Velvet Cloud in SF last year.

Had a walk up to the vets this afternoon to weigh the lump: 15.9kg :) That's 3kg in 3 weeks. She's growing at the proper rate now since we got rid of the ivy and she's begun eating more!
 

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Had a walk up to the vets this afternoon to weigh the lump: 15.9kg :) That's 3kg in 3 weeks. She's growing at the proper rate now since we got rid of the ivy and she's begun eating more!
Yeah they don`t stay small for long eh :laugh: Maya is 20 kg now at 17 months old, but she should start leveling off now :) Poor bugger has been hiding behind the couch with all the fireworks :( What do you mean about the ivy Trish ?
 
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Yeah they don`t stay small for long eh :laugh: Maya is 20 kg now at 17 months old, but she should start levelling off now :)
Yes, and being able to virtually see them growing from day to day is in itself quite alarming - no wonder they get their loopy spells! One day her head is too big, next, she's all legs, and then her body lengthens ..and for a few days, she's in proportion, before it all starts again :D She's 18 weeks now, but I seem to recall Sophie putting 2 kg per week on by this age ...the 2kg per week stage certainly lasted for a couple of months. But, she was a big example of the breed (32kg when grown), so hard to say how heavy Hetty will be. She's got thickly boned legs, and her Dad is Sophie's cousin ...so we'll see.
She can certainly eat! Half a pot of vanilla yoghurt, then 3 large handfuls of kibble (JW) with 50g of Rinti tray food - for her tea! She has similar for lunch, kibble and chopped boiled egg for breakfast, and plain kibble for supper :eek: - and not an ounce of fat on her. We've been told to just let her decide when to drop a meal as she's growing so fast.
She's walking really well on her Halti collar now, and stops at the kerb for traffic very nicely ..that was after only two outings too.
Maya must be just about fully grown now ...with perhaps a bit of 'filling out' to do?
Poor bugger has been hiding behind the couch with all the fireworks :(
It's really unfair on pets and wildlife ..and a lot of elderly people too. We've been lucky, and never yet had a dog afraid of firework or thunder noise. All we do when they look at us alarmed is smile and reassure them that all is fine. We did give Hetty a 400g dose of Zylkene at lunch time though, and so far she's fine. May be worth you trying a small pack of them for Maya before News Years Eve (I do wish they'd either stop the public having them, or at least stop them making loud bangs!). The Zylkene is perfectly safe - a milk peptide - so absolutely fine, and they sorted Sophie out with the seizures she had when the groomers were coming.
What do you mean about the ivy Trish ?
Within days of Hetty arriving, she had a really upset tum, and despite vet visits, probiotics, special diet food, and lab tests (clear), it persisted ...I though it just had to be something she was ingesting, and as she was only getting plain kibble, I searched through lists of toxic plants ...yes, we have a few, but there was only one that she had access to daily, and that was English ivy on the 3' high fence along part of the rear of the house with a gate into the garden.
The ivy had been there for 20 years or more, and thickly covered around 12' of the low fence. It had never bothered Sophie, but I did see Hetty pulling leaves off it now and then, and the symptoms fit with her upset tum etc., So, we removed the ivy - took two full days, and caused red skin and sore noses! - and then the low fence, which was replaced with a 4' one - she's bolder than Sophie, and was bound to try jumping over a 3'one at some point.
3 weeks today since the new fence was put up, and she hasn't had an upset tum at all since, and is eating a normal varied diet now!
I reckon I got a list of around 10 plants/shrubs/trees/bulbs we have that have toxic or even poisonous qualities. The Yew bush is perhaps the most poisonous (can apparently cause a horse to collapse in 15 minutes if they chew it!) so we'll watch that when she goes in the garden - even old clippings remain fully toxic. Another is the little green berries found at this time of year on laurel hedges ...of which we have a high 40' long one! The stone in the middle is the most toxic, and contains a form of cyanide which can build up in the body if ingested and not eliminated. We've been picking them up off the side paved area where the dogs go every day, Hetty does eat the berries if she can get them, but seems to leave the stones!
It's amazing how many toxic/poisonous plants etc. there are.

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Re the High Court Ruling:
Thinking about this talk of the judges independence being a 'good' thing (by the remainers), but is it? Yes, they're independent ..and quite possibly, all 'remainers' ...so how would that ensure an impartial & fair judgement? They can easily disrupt the leave vote by doing what they have done, and it seems could cause quite a lot of problems down the line.
Surely, they're too easily able to overturn a promise made by government to millions of people if it suits their own preferences! Makes a mockery of the very word Government!

This pesky woman and her cronies have asked the judges to prevent the government triggering article 50 when they want to, but the government are merely the vehicle to carry out the decision of the majority, and as such she is most certainly preventing us, the voters, from getting what we 'won' in a fair vote.:cry:

Many people thinking about corruption in high places - big money talks in very loud whispers, and pulls very hefty strings.
 

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Re the High Court Ruling:
Thinking about this talk of the judges independence being a 'good' thing (by the remainers), but is it? Yes, they're independent ..and quite possibly, all 'remainers' ...so how would that ensure an impartial & fair judgement? They can easily disrupt the leave vote by doing what they have done, and it seems could cause quite a lot of problems down the line.
Surely, they're too easily able to overturn a promise made by government to millions of people if it suits their own preferences! Makes a mockery of the very word Government!

This pesky woman and her cronies have asked the judges to prevent the government triggering article 50 when they want to, but the government are merely the vehicle to carry out the decision of the majority, and as such she is most certainly preventing us, the voters, from getting what we 'won' in a fair vote.:cry:

Many people thinking about corruption in high places - big money talks in very loud whispers, and pulls very hefty strings.

Yes, it's an interesting one. Judges have a tendency to be a bit contrary because then they get a little bit of fame. However, if the issue is tinkered with much more by the hideous remoaners then Mrs May will have every reason to go to the country. The more fuss the remoaners make, the more likely a Tory landslide victory. Good! This will give her a strengthened mandate to pursue Brexit with gusto. It will also give constituency parties the chance to deselect some of the more loathsome whining remaniac MPs and replace them with decent candidates who wish to enforce the will of the people.
 
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In case people feel that I have used stiff language in describing remoaner mps I have compiled a little list of alternative terms that may be felt to be more suitable:

abhorrent, deplorable, disgusting, horrible, obnoxious, odious, repugnant, revolting, vile, abominable, execrable, etc etc

That's better!
 

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In case people feel that I have used stiff language in describing remoaner mps I have compiled a little list of alternative terms that may be felt to be more suitable:

abhorrent, deplorable, disgusting, horrible, obnoxious, odious, repugnant, revolting, vile, abominable, execrable, etc etc

That's better!
:laugh: Love it Pipe, get it off yer chest :laugh: TBH I`ve stopped letting `em wind me up now, sick of the bleeding idiots. I`m sure we`ll be out soon enough :thumb:
 
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Yes, and being able to virtually see them growing from day to day is in itself quite alarming - no wonder they get their loopy spells! One day her head is too big, next, she's all legs, and then her body lengthens ..and for a few days, she's in proportion, before it all starts again :D She's 18 weeks now, but I seem to recall Sophie putting 2 kg per week on by this age ...the 2kg per week stage certainly lasted for a couple of months. But, she was a big example of the breed (32kg when grown), so hard to say how heavy Hetty will be. She's got thickly boned legs, and her Dad is Sophie's cousin ...so we'll see.
She can certainly eat! Half a pot of vanilla yoghurt, then 3 large handfuls of kibble (JW) with 50g of Rinti tray food - for her tea! She has similar for lunch, kibble and chopped boiled egg for breakfast, and plain kibble for supper :eek: - and not an ounce of fat on her. We've been told to just let her decide when to drop a meal as she's growing so fast.
She's walking really well on her Halti collar now, and stops at the kerb for traffic very nicely ..that was after only two outings too.
Maya must be just about fully grown now ...with perhaps a bit of 'filling out' to do?

It's really unfair on pets and wildlife ..and a lot of elderly people too. We've been lucky, and never yet had a dog afraid of firework or thunder noise. All we do when they look at us alarmed is smile and reassure them that all is fine. We did give Hetty a 400g dose of Zylkene at lunch time though, and so far she's fine. May be worth you trying a small pack of them for Maya before News Years Eve (I do wish they'd either stop the public having them, or at least stop them making loud bangs!). The Zylkene is perfectly safe - a milk peptide - so absolutely fine, and they sorted Sophie out with the seizures she had when the groomers were coming.
Within days of Hetty arriving, she had a really upset tum, and despite vet visits, probiotics, special diet food, and lab tests (clear), it persisted ...I though it just had to be something she was ingesting, and as she was only getting plain kibble, I searched through lists of toxic plants ...yes, we have a few, but there was only one that she had access to daily, and that was English ivy on the 3' high fence along part of the rear of the house with a gate into the garden.
The ivy had been there for 20 years or more, and thickly covered around 12' of the low fence. It had never bothered Sophie, but I did see Hetty pulling leaves off it now and then, and the symptoms fit with her upset tum etc., So, we removed the ivy - took two full days, and caused red skin and sore noses! - and then the low fence, which was replaced with a 4' one - she's bolder than Sophie, and was bound to try jumping over a 3'one at some point.
3 weeks today since the new fence was put up, and she hasn't had an upset tum at all since, and is eating a normal varied diet now!
I reckon I got a list of around 10 plants/shrubs/trees/bulbs we have that have toxic or even poisonous qualities. The Yew bush is perhaps the most poisonous (can apparently cause a horse to collapse in 15 minutes if they chew it!) so we'll watch that when she goes in the garden - even old clippings remain fully toxic. Another is the little green berries found at this time of year on laurel hedges ...of which we have a high 40' long one! The stone in the middle is the most toxic, and contains a form of cyanide which can build up in the body if ingested and not eliminated. We've been picking them up off the side paved area where the dogs go every day, Hetty does eat the berries if she can get them, but seems to leave the stones!
It's amazing how many toxic/poisonous plants etc. there are.
Yes it`s really surprising how intelligent dogs are, most anyway :laugh: I can walk Maya off lead almost anywhere now, local that is, and she is brilliant and listens to every command :) I used to have a lurcher who didn`t give a hoot about fireworks etc, she`d even go out with them going off ! I won`t bother with the drug Trish, but thanks for the recommendation, she`ll either get use to it, or just continue hiding :lol:
I did know about poison ivy, but wasn`t aware that other strains could cause problems like that, and i`m pleased you sorted it out for Hetty :) Poor things, they just don`t know, a bit like me :laugh:

One thing i do keep an eye on in our garden is the Laburnum when it is dropping it`s yellow thingies, i believe they are deadly if consumed. I`m not sure if we need to watch her with other plants etc, but touch wood, no incidents up to now. :)
 
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