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I think hangsen uses 1 ml per 30ml base.

I have found every pre-made hangsen I've tried to match 3.3 - 3.5% with flavoring concentrates. Also HS pre-made will have steeped a month at least. Some may mix it stronger but if you compare side to side I think you'll be 3.4% and steeped.

10ml hangsen flavoring makes me about 300ml juice.
I've used HS flavoring before, just not Virginia. Thanks for the information though, never heard what ratio they use in ready to vape liquid.

I had to go with bull city, the higher price and shipping from RTS is a big turnoff. Ended up with 50ml of Virginia, and two 10ml of something else shipped for the same price as just a single bottle of 30ml from RTS.
 

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You beat me to the punch on the Am4a suggestion!

This INW flavor was the first ever tobacco concentrate which I found that was perfect as a stand alone mix; 3.5% is my sweet spot. It does help if you give it at least a 2 week steep; mellows nicely.

I like it just a bit more with .5% or so INW DNB or FA Black Fire included.

True that.

You can enhance it further by adding depth, complexity and
well rounded deep tobacco flavor by adding
.5 % INW Cappuccino
.5 % INW Biscuit

It will soon become a ADV a bit difficult to put down.
 

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I've used HS flavoring before, just not Virginia. Thanks for the information though, never heard what ratio they use in ready to vape liquid.

I had to go with bull city, the higher price and shipping from RTS is a big turnoff. Ended up with 50ml of Virginia, and two 10ml of something else shipped for the same price as just a single bottle of 30ml from RTS.

Oh, I thought they were out of stock by the posts earlier, might have skimmed too fast.lol BCV prices are super cheap compared to what we've been paying over the years. Makes you wonder what the deal is.. and they pretty much take everyone else out.
 

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True that.

You can enhance it further by adding depth, complexity and
well rounded deep tobacco flavor by adding
.5 % INW Cappuccino
.5 % INW Biscuit

It will soon become a ADV a bit difficult to put down.
What's the full recipe, and what gear, wattage, ect., please?
I wouldn't have thought of the Ina Biscuit as an enhancer for good money lol. I don't have Ina Am4a yet (it's on my list) but I do have Ina Biscuit and some TFA Cappuccino. I think I feel a little mixing session coming on lol. :vapor:
 
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Oh, I thought they were out of stock by the posts earlier, might have skimmed too fast.lol BCV prices are super cheap compared to what we've been paying over the years. Makes you wonder what the deal is.. and they pretty much take everyone else out.

They still seem to be out of a lot of Hangsen but they usually restock really fast. I agree with you BCV is my go to vendor for flavoring. Love there customer service and special orders are no problem. Can ask anymore from a company then that.
 

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Oh, I thought they were out of stock by the posts earlier, might have skimmed too fast.lol BCV prices are super cheap compared to what we've been paying over the years. Makes you wonder what the deal is.. and they pretty much take everyone else out.
My fault, they were actually out of Virginia. She had me order red USA mix instead, don't know why I said I ordered Virginia...scatter brained lately.

BCV prices are good, you can get 150ml for less than the competitions 120ml...if you can catch what you want in stock.
 

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What's the full recipe, and what gear, wattage, ect., please?
I wouldn't have thought of the Ina Biscuit as an enhancer for good money lol. I don't have Ina Am4a yet (it's on my list) but I do have Ina Biscuit and some TFA Cappuccino. I think I feel a little mixing session coming on lol. :vapor:

Vape high VG Juices VG 80/ PG20
INW AM4A 3%
INW Biscuit .5%
INW Cappuccino .5%

Like @dannyv45 keeps saying about chocolates enhancing tobacco flavors, biscuits, cookies and coffee's do too.

I usually mix up single flavors in up to 100 ml droppers @ 3%.
After they have steeped in a month or two,
Flavor experiments in a 10 ml bottle.

Mix main flavor with desired topping's.

Shake whenever I remember,
rest it overnight / 24 hours and
vape the next day.

Regulated temperature control mod.
Resistance and wattage are not a factor.

SS 316L single coils between 200-240 Celsius.
 

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Like @dannyv45 keeps saying about chocolates enhancing tobacco flavors, biscuits, cookies and coffee's do too.

Nicely said and you are absolutely correct.
Buscuit will enhance the fullness of a tobacco
cookie will add a bready sweetness as well as add fullness
Haven't tried coffee but I can see it working very well to add that extra kick.
and don't forget your vanilla's and caramels also.

the secret is to use them very lightly as a trace notes. You never want to mask the tobacco flavor with these notes.

There all very nice tobacco complements.
 

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Vape high VG Juices VG 80/ PG20
INW AM4A 3%
INW Biscuit .5%
INW Cappuccino .5%

Like @dannyv45 keeps saying about chocolates enhancing tobacco flavors, biscuits, cookies and coffee's do too.

I usually mix up single flavors in up to 100 ml droppers @ 3%.
After they have steeped in a month or two,
Flavor experiments in a 10 ml bottle.

Mix main flavor with desired topping's.

Shake whenever I remember,
rest it overnight / 24 hours and
vape the next day.

Regulated temperature control mod.
Resistance and wattage are not a factor.

SS 316L single coils between 200-240 Celsius.
Thanks for the reply. I'm definitely going to break out my Ina Biscuit and try a drop or two in some of my tobacco mixes.
I've often thought about one of the newer temp control devices but it probably won't happen for me. I'm pretty satisfied with my mechs, but I'd guess that temp control is the way to go in this day and age.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I'm definitely going to break out my Ina Biscuit and try a drop or two in some of my tobacco mixes.
I've often thought about one of the newer temp control devices but it probably won't happen for me. I'm pretty satisfied with my mechs, but I'd guess that temp control is the way to go in this day and age.

I actually went the other way the second time I started vaping, back then the lowest most any regulated device would fire was 1.2 ohm. Had to vape a mech to get any kind of power.

Nowadays regulated is the way to go, but plenty of people don't like temperature control. I use TC all day everyday but I also use one of my regulated devices in mech mode to tootle a kayfun. I can't remember the last time I picked up one of my mechs.

If your happy with your vape no need to upgrade.
 

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If your happy with your vape no need to upgrade.
I've often thought about one of the newer temp control devices but it probably won't happen for me. I'm pretty satisfied with my mechs, but I'd guess that temp control is the way to go in this day and age.

Stick to what makes you happy @JD1. VW and TC isn't all that and a bag of chips. I have both and find myself wanting to grab my mech mod all the time.

The INW biscuit is a very nice flavor; compliments most tobaccos. Don't know whether or not you're into black cherry, but the INW Black Cherry for Pipe makes for a very palitable vape. The above recipe is another one of my ADV.
 

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All – tagged "Tobacco" – EuroFlavor

In searching for tobacco concentrates, a company called EuroFlavor caught my eye back in January. I must say, so far, there are more winners than losers in their tobacco line. As promised, from my post in late January, here are my short and sweet tasting notes on the EuroFlavor (EF) tobaccos I've experimented with to date:

Burley Tobacco:
Unusable. Back to the lab with this one EF. Nuff said.


Cigar Cuba:
This is a light and airy, but very aromatic Cuban cigar flavor; no ash is present. Woody in nature, this tobacco definitely has a cedar note which is front and center. Must have for cigar vape lovers.

Mixed at 5%, 40PG/60VG; a bit too much cedar; mix at lower than 2% for a nice cedar flavor.


Cigar Dominican Republic:
I find this tobacco flavor somewhat enjoyable, even though there is a heavy-ish floral quality which is associated with the flavor. However, the pleasant (light pine or cedar) woody and leathery quality wins over floral note. No chemical back notes associated with this flavor.

Mixed at 5%, 40PG/60VG; will say to mix at lower than 4% if you don't want this tobacco as the primary in the mix.


Dark Tobacco:
From EF: Fire-cured, rich tobacco taste with smoky and woody impressions. Contains a slight floral taste that adds body and aroma to the blend.

Agree; however, the slight floral note is almost nonexistent, which is a good thing for me. There are no chemical notes. This is a "darkish" flavored pipe like tobacco with lots of body. It will prove nicely in adding depth to other tobaccos.

Mixed test batch at 5%, 40PG/60VG; will probably mix this flavor at a bit higher percentage if primary tobacco.


Modified Virginia Blend:
From EF: Virginia tobacco is often referred to as brightleaf tobacco. Most of this type of tobacco is grown in the US and was fire-cured dark-leaf. Our Modified Virginia Blend is planted in fertile lowlands, used a robust variety of leaf, and is either fire cured or air.

They got the Virginia tobacco flavor right; slightly sweet and flavorful. The flavor of this tobacco is that of air cured. There is no added smokiness or charred flavor in the least with this flavor. It's a bit on the light side, so a mix percentage at 5 to 10% will be required for tobacco lovers; others should stay below 5% for a nice light Virginia flavor to the mix. Tobacco fans will want to add an absolute or DNB to this flavor.

Mixed at 5%, 40PG/60VG; wanted a bit more flavor as a stand alone.


Orient Tobacco Black:
From EF: Orient Tobacco Black is a sun-cured, highly aromatic, small-leafed variety or tobacco. Often referred to as Turkish tobacco.

I've been searching for a very long time for a tobacco that carries the flavor of cedar and/or sandalwood. EF has it, hands down, with their Orient Black. This is going to prove tremendously helpful with cigar mixes and other recipes which need a bright oriental tobacco quality.

Tested at 5%, 40PG/60VG and think that anything more than 5% in the mix would be a waste or move into the cloying range.


Orient Tobacco White:
From EF: They copied and pasted the same description for Orient Tobacco Black as the description of this tobacco.....really?

This tobacco is of the Oriental/Turkish variety, however, they need to rework this flavor due to its unpleasant odor and chemical notes. Tastes and smells dank and acrid, rather like stinky socks and wet, spent fireworks the morning after the celebration.

Mixed at 5%, 40PG/60VG; back to the lab with this one EF.


Pipe Tobacco:
From EF: Well-blended pipe tobacco w/vanilla notes.

Agreed. A nice blend of tobacco flavors with a sweet finish; a light to medium bodied tobacco flavor with notes of Virginia, burley, oriental. No pungent quality or chemical notes inherent with this liquid. This pipe flavor would be a good candidate for folks that need an introduction to vaping tobacco mixes.

Mixed test batch at 5%, 40PG/60VG; good, but will mix at 6 to 8%.


Reviews still to come:

American Blend Black:
American Blend Blue:
American Blend Gold:
Tobacco-Chocolate:
Tobacco-Vanilla:

I will more than likely repost this as a stand alone thread for EuroFlavor concentrates, but thought I'd throw it down in this thread first for the tobacco folks.
 

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Yeah thanks. Just what I needed, another new brand of flavoring to try! Already placed order for the Orient Black.

If you like the Orient Black, you will like the Cigar Cuba. These two tobaccos share the cedar note, but each one has its own distinctive qualities. : )
 

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If you like the Orient Black, you will like the Cigar Cuba. These two tobaccos share the cedar note, but each one has its own distinctive qualities. : )
I got the Cigar Cuba too, along with Vanilla and Chocolate Tobaccos. Also a couple random non-tobaccos, Vanilla Custard and "Blue Vape" (shisha blueberry).
 

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Hate to bushwhack the topic-at-hand but I would like to ask an opinion:
I save lighter tobaccos for my ADV and have been on a 7 leaves kick for the last year or so. I have been buying FA 7 leaves and I like it, but was curious if there is a better one out there? Admittedly I haven't gone outside the FA box when ordering the flavor (stick with what I know) so shame on me for the most part.
I have been switching it up and right now INW Gold Ducat is taking the cake but I revisited my ADV over the weekend and remembered how much I love the flavor of my simple 7 leaves mix.
All opinions welcome, much appreciated in advance!
 
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