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[JD1]

I don't like ash much at all to be honest. But INW VA is more leafy than ashy. Just a touch of ash. 5% is pretty strong as a standalone. It was my first mix with it and too strong for my tastes but now I found a good use for it without messing around with dilution.

That's good to know and I'll have to give it a try.

 

[JD1]

It seems like I like anything and every thing I throw together anymore lol. Here's the latest.

Ina 3 Five 4%
TFA DK tobacco 2%

Um, um good.

 

[chopdoc]

I don't like ash much at all to be honest. But INW VA is more leafy than ashy. Just a touch of ash. 5% is pretty strong as a standalone. It was my first mix with it and too strong for my tastes but now I found a good use for it without messing around with dilution.

I find that Inawera TA Virgina gives a depth/body to a tobacco vape. Its kinda hard to explain but I look at it like what a hint of vermouth does to a martini or what the salt/lemon does to tequila.

 

[chopdoc]

Well guys, I been stuck vaping for two days some Inawarra Classic CLM with some Mother Milk TA and DNB. I vaped the Classic CLM by itself and it wasnt anything really special to me but add the MM TA and DNB to it and it became akin to realcigs. Very enjoyable and hard to put down vape. This is worthy of a 30 ml bottle and longer steep time. Will be glad when my new ultrasonic cleaner arrives. Will help the steep a lot!

 

[chopdoc]

How many of you tobacco lovers gone down the road of doing your own tobacco extracting? Thinking of taking some tobacco and steeping it in PG and seeing how it comes out. Curious how many tried it and their results.

 

[JD1]

How many of you tobacco lovers gone down the road of doing your own tobacco extracting? Thinking of taking some tobacco and steeping it in PG and seeing how it comes out. Curious how many tried it and their results.

I thought about trying the slow cooker method but decided against it. I'd rather try some more of the flavors from Inawera, Hangsen, and the SC (China) lines. I can't imagine liking anything better that some of the mixes I'm able to do with the few flavors I have already.

Anyways, here's the thread in case you haven't seen it. Slow Cooker Extraction of Tobacco and Tea | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[JeremyR]

I mixed a bottle of HS Virginia last week and pulled it from the shelf today. Nice light and smooth tobacco vape but still decent throat hit. Has a distinct sweetness to it that I really like. I mixed standalone 9mg 50/50 w/ 7% flavor. I have a bottle of INW VA TA that I mixed at 5% flavor. I'm going to add some drops in my tank today and see what it's like. Should give it some more earthy punch but remain sweet and smooth.

I have Gold and Silver up next. Flavor concentrate was fairly strong smelling in the bottle so I mixed that standalone @ 5%. Smells great. Complex and robust compared to other flavors like Deluxe, VA, Flue Cured, etc.

I have some #5 steeping that I added 1% AP to. I liked #5 standalone but I was expecting a bit more nuttiness last time so I added my own.

As I've been saying for the last year +.....I love me some HS tobaccos. I may never grow tired of them. For those who haven't but are considering trying, there are groups of flavors that seem to be in their own categories. This is my experience:

Sweeter side and smooth with no complex (or unusual) notes:

TAB (sweet and nutty. I like to mix TFA RY4D in this one for a dessert type tobacco vape)
Deluxe (excellent standalone. My wife loves it and is just transitioning from sweet vapes to tobaccos)
Flue cured (love love love this stuff)
#5 (similar profile to Deluxe but some added nut)
Virginia (just getting to know it but typical sweeter and smooth for sure)
RY4 (I personally don't consider this an RY4. Too bland imo but others like it)

Dryer and more robust:

RY1 (pretty standard tobacco flavor. Not my favorite but others love it. Good for mixing with other notes)
Highway (nutty is built in. Excellent standalone or for adding things like HS vanilla or whatever secondary note you want)
USA Red (I have a hard time getting good flavor out of this one. It's not ashy imo)

Unique:

Desert Ship (personal all time fave. Grassy, slightly sweet, and definitely an ADV for me)
Magic Mix (unusual. Has a spice and earthy undertone but still slight sweetness)
Indian (earthy and complex. Love this stuff when drinking bourbon)
Turkish (must try for anyone who even thinks they may like turkish tobacco)
Arabic (very unique. I don't like it but others love it. Has a distinct woody flavor. I think it tastes a bit like cedar)


I add a little EM to all my mixes once I try standalone. Usually around .5 - 1%. I prefer the moistness and slight sweetness it adds to the vape. However, it does mute flavors a little so figuring what % of each flavor to add is unique to the person. I generally go 5-7% across the board.

I'm a little late to the party over here... but thanks for the reviews.

 

[chopdoc]

I thought about trying the slow cooker method but decided against it. I'd rather try some more of the flavors from Inawera, Hangsen, and the SC (China) lines. I can't imagine liking anything better that some of the mixes I'm able to do with the few flavors I have already.

Anyways, here's the thread in case you haven't seen it. Slow Cooker Extraction of Tobacco and Tea | E-Cigarette Forum

Was reading where they was talking about it but havent seen that thread until now, thanks for sharing. Was thinking of trying a simple method of putting some in a bottle or cup and just letting it soak for a while but the crockpot idea does sound simple and easy. I believe I still have some tobacco left from my make your own days that would be a good candidate for the experiment.

 

[JD1]

I'm a little late to the party over here... but thanks for the reviews.

Welcome to the party Jeremy.

 

[dannyv45]

Well guys, I been stuck vaping for two days some Inawarra Classic CLM with some Mother Milk TA and DNB. I vaped the Classic CLM by itself and it wasnt anything really special to me but add the MM TA and DNB to it and it became akin to realcigs. Very enjoyable and hard to put down vape. This is worthy of a 30 ml bottle and longer steep time. Will be glad when my new ultrasonic cleaner arrives. Will help the steep a lot!

So what's your opinion on the Mothers milk TA as compared to the others?

 

[chopdoc]

So what's your opinion on the Mothers milk TA as compared to the others?

To me it added an underlying earthy creaminess to the vape. The Classic CLM is the only one I tried so far with MM TA but later today I will be cleaning out my Kayfun, rewicking it and trying Inawera Bright Tobacco with MM TA in it and no DNB and will be able to give a better opinion on it.

 

[dannyv45]

How many of you tobacco lovers gone down the road of doing your own tobacco extracting? Thinking of taking some tobacco and steeping it in PG and seeing how it comes out. Curious how many tried it and their results.

I've done it and got mixed results. I find that to me it wasn't worth investing the time and resources when there are so many good tobacco flavorings, TA's and WTA's out there. Extracting tobacco is more for someone looking for that spicific or exact tobacco taste such as a good pipe tobacco or cigar they used to use in there smoking days. As I don't miss the taste of that particular tobacco I used to use it's of no benefit to me to extract it.

 

[dannyv45]

To me it added an underlying earthy creaminess to the vape. The Classic CLM is the only one I tried so far with MM TA but later today I will be cleaning out my Kayfun, rewicking it and trying Inawera Bright Tobacco with MM TA in it and no DNB and will be able to give a better opinion on it.

Interesting observation "Creaminess"

I would classify it as a smooth not to ashy but more woody, grassy, hay tobacco essence. Somewhere in between a Virginia and a rustica.

Your observation of an "earthy creaminess" does follow along the lines of a smoothness and would indicate it would be a very good TA to use in lets say an RY4 mix which I would very much agree with. To me it makes a nice multi purpose TA.

 

[JeremyR]

OMG, what is this Gold and Silver discussion ?
The whole reason I started to vape is to find a Cuban substitute. As the US embargo lifts the price of Cubans will sky rocket for those of us that smoke our Cuban puros daily here in Canada. My supplier has already mentioned there is a 6% increase as of this week !

I can see it being a cigar...
It's strong I tell you that... 3-4% is tops for me. 3.33% or 1 ml per 30ml is plenty of flavoring.

 

[Bob Chill]

How many of you tobacco lovers gone down the road of doing your own tobacco extracting? Thinking of taking some tobacco and steeping it in PG and seeing how it comes out. Curious how many tried it and their results.

I haven't yet. Thought about it and read about it though. There are so many good concentrates readily available that it's just easier to work with premix stuff. As I've said in earlier posts. I'm pretty lazy with DIY. I have my method down and don't deviate much. All of my recipes have no more than 2 primary flavors (most have 1) and 2 enhancers. That's part of the beauty I find with tobaccos. They are complex the same way small batch bourbon is. Each one has it's own uniqueness to it that if I like it, I really never get tired of it. But so easy to get right. I mix only once every three months and don't like spending time trying to get all artistic.

When I first started vaping I used to flavor bounce all over with ready made juice. But I got tired of nearly every single flavor too quickly. Especially dessert/fruit type vapes. They all become cloying. Even the complex "premium" stuff like Ahlusion and Nicoticket became cloying and not my style. I though H1N1 tasted like a candy raisin but people are addicted to it. Which is great but not my personal style.

Then Danny inspired my with HS and it's been an incredibly easy and fun journey with so many tasty vapes I have a hard time deciding the flavor of the day (i usually only vape 1 flavor per day. Sometimes 3 days straight).

However, if the FDA jacks it all up and tobacco concentrates become a thing of the past I'm certain that I will become a proficient extractor from leaves. No doubt in my mind. Until then....easy street!

 

[dannyv45]

I can see it being a cigar...
It's strong I tell you that... 3-4% is tops for me. 3.33% or 1 ml per 30ml is plenty of flavoring.

I agree it is strong but has a bright sweetness to it as well. The brightness is kinda like the inawera cubano but has a bit more sweetness. To some this sweetness may be a drawback.

 

[Bob Chill]

I find that Inawera TA Virgina gives a depth/body to a tobacco vape. Its kinda hard to explain but I look at it like what a hint of vermouth does to a martini or what the salt/lemon does to tequila.

Completely agree. It's a versatile flavor that really fills in the profile. I'm thinking it will go excellent with Flue Cured and Deluxe as well. I'll probably mix a 30ml bottle for the sole purpose of mixing right into the tank with the lighter flavored HS tobaccos.

 

[dannyv45]

When I first started vaping I used to flavor bounce all over with ready made juice. But I got tired of nearly every single flavor too quickly. Especially dessert/fruit type vapes. They all become cloying. Even the complex "premium" stuff like Ahlusion and Nicoticket became cloying and not my style.

Then Danny inspired my with HS and it's been an incredibly easy and fun journey with so many tasty vapes I have a hard time deciding the flavor of the day (i usually only vape 1 flavor per day. Sometimes 3 days straight).

That's the wonderful thing about DYI. If you get tired of that ADV you can change it up so many ways just varying the recipe. And there's so much flavor selection to choose from. The only limitation is your imagination. I carry 3 - 4 different vapes with me and switch constantly throughout the day. I never get board. But when I do I put it away for a few days or lean more towards another of my ADV's so my vapes never go out of style or sit unused for months.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

I get a little confused with the abbreviations and then trying to correlate them with offerings on web sites.

Is "INW VA" the same as Inawera Tobacco Absolute Virginia (WG)? TA at 5% seems to be a very high percentage in my experience for a Tobacco Absolute.

 

[chopdoc]

I've done it and got mixed results. I find that to me it wasn't worth investing the time and resources when there are so many good tobacco flavorings, TA's and WTA's out there. Extracting tobacco is more for someone looking for that spicific or exact tobacco taste such as a good pipe tobacco or cigar they used to use in there smoking days. As I don't miss the taste of that particular tobacco I used to use it's of no benefit to me to extract it.

I am still searching for that ultimate tobacco vape and when using CE5's a Capellas's Smooth with Caramel/Bav Cream was a good strong tobacco flavor with a creaminess that was my go to tobacco vape. Now that I am using Kayfuns, that vape is way overpowering creaminess to me and not really enjoyable. Plus with all the medical stuff I been thru the last 6 months like having to go over a month with nothing but ice chips, my taste suffered where it took over a month just to enjoy coffee again when I always been a coffee-haulic. Thinking about it, I havent had a cup of coffee in three days. People who knew me well would be stunned to hear that.

Interesting observation "Creaminess"

I would classify it as a smooth not to ashy but more woody, grassy, hay tobacco essence. Somewhere in between a Virginia and a rustica.

Your observation of an "earthy creaminess" does follow along the lines of a smoothness and would indicate it would be a very good TA to use in lets say an RY4 mix which I would very much agree with. To me it makes a nice multi purpose TA.

I really didnt get the grassy hay essence out of it but a woody touch I can see but the DNB could be masking it. It definitely has a smoothing effect to it that worked well with the DNB.