FDA and e-cigarettes: Your action needed now.
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yesterday they are proposing banning Swedish Snus in Sweden as well... not sure if they will still allow export but they are combining the bill with the e-cig bill.. pray that they do not do this e-cigs and snus has saved my life and many others! We need to get our boive heard.. they had 85,000 people complain but left out that the complaints were AGAINST the bill and made it sound as if the 85,000 wanted the bill passed which is not true.. please read :Final EU Commission TPD Released - Sweden knifed in the back AGAIN.
Early this morning, the European Commission submitted their final version of the long awaited new tobacco Products Directive (TPD) to the European Parliament for consideration. If adopted and followed as written, Swedish snus as we know it will be illegal even in Sweden under the new tobacco flavoring ban. e-Cigarettes containing more than an extremely low (and ineffective) amount of nicotine would also be banned EU-wide.
All other forms of smokeless tobacco containing characteristic flavorings would also be banned within the EU. As EU Commissioner Tonio Borg puts it "tobacco products should look and taste like tobacco products and this proposal ensures that attractive packaging and flavourings are not used as a marketing strategy."
The new TPD ignores science and proven facts while selectively pulling words and sentences together in order to paint the picture these pro-Big Pharma, Anti-Swedish Snus extremists prefer. For example, at one point the press release reads "The proposal has been adopted following extensive consultation of stakeholders including a public consultation which generated 85,000 responses."
What was conveniently left out was that by a large majority, the 85,000 responses were in favor of eliminating the Swedish snus ban.
The new TPD also codifies that nicotine containing (in any quantity) or other Big Pharma smoking cessation products (including the extremely dangerous Chantix/Champix anti-smoking pills known for causing deep depression and a number of suicides) were not subject to the limitations or restrictions other more effective MRTP products such as snus and e-cigs would be.
Read more: EU Commission Submits New Anti-Swedish TPD Proposal (to read the linkas I do not know how to embed them go to www dot snuscentral dot com and it is on the main page..regards
Early this morning, the European Commission submitted their final version of the long awaited new tobacco Products Directive (TPD) to the European Parliament for consideration. If adopted and followed as written, Swedish snus as we know it will be illegal even in Sweden under the new tobacco flavoring ban. e-Cigarettes containing more than an extremely low (and ineffective) amount of nicotine would also be banned EU-wide.
All other forms of smokeless tobacco containing characteristic flavorings would also be banned within the EU. As EU Commissioner Tonio Borg puts it "tobacco products should look and taste like tobacco products and this proposal ensures that attractive packaging and flavourings are not used as a marketing strategy."
The new TPD ignores science and proven facts while selectively pulling words and sentences together in order to paint the picture these pro-Big Pharma, Anti-Swedish Snus extremists prefer. For example, at one point the press release reads "The proposal has been adopted following extensive consultation of stakeholders including a public consultation which generated 85,000 responses."
What was conveniently left out was that by a large majority, the 85,000 responses were in favor of eliminating the Swedish snus ban.
The new TPD also codifies that nicotine containing (in any quantity) or other Big Pharma smoking cessation products (including the extremely dangerous Chantix/Champix anti-smoking pills known for causing deep depression and a number of suicides) were not subject to the limitations or restrictions other more effective MRTP products such as snus and e-cigs would be.
Read more: EU Commission Submits New Anti-Swedish TPD Proposal (to read the linkas I do not know how to embed them go to www dot snuscentral dot com and it is on the main page..regards
This is only the beginning of a NWO ban on what is SAVING OUR LIVES!!! ACTION IS NEEDED AND I AM GOING TO MAKE A CAUSE TO TRY AND GET SIGNATURES BEFORE IT IS TO LATE
THANKS A LOT EVERYONE
it may be in the EU but it will be in USA as well since the USA in in cahutes with the EU
THANKS A LOT EVERYONE
it may be in the EU but it will be in USA as well since the USA in in cahutes with the EU
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Done. And I wrote down the tracking number, just in case. Let's see if We the People can still make a difference....
No. A new study will come out that will have 100% proof that every puff you make 1 baby seal dies.
I don't believe they can actually ban this industry tho
I already know how to extract nicotine from whole leaf tobacco. There are rebuildable atomizers. I can get PG and VG over the counter. I can mod a flashlight.
I will vape on top of their graves.
I will vape on top of their graves.
I submitted an electronic letter and a snail mail letter on 1-1-13. thanks to CASSA and ECF for helping fight for vapers rights
and keeping us informed on legislation pertinent to us vapers.
and keeping us informed on legislation pertinent to us vapers.
submitted
I had been smoking 60 black tobacco cigarettes without filter a day for 45 years. Then on October 3rd 2012 I bought an ego electronic personal vaporizer. On October 4th I smoked only 3 cigarettes that were (I hope) the last ones of my life. I’m glad I possibly will escape cancer and other bad diseases unless you ban advanced personal vaporizers (APV). I never tried to quit smoking and even used to say I would be smoking all my life and that the odds were 50% that nothing bad would happen to me. Now my hair, my clothes, my house don’t stink anymore and I can climb up the stairs far more easily.
I love vaping peach, banana, cherry, watermelon with 18 mg of nicotin and don’t intend to vape without nicotin. If you ban APV or don’t let me vape with a high degree of nicotin I am sure that by your fault I’ll be smoking 60 cigarettes a day again.
It is clear that cigarettes kill, I don’t think e-cigarettes are as dangerous because there is no tar, no carbon monoxide and no other horrible things contained in cigarettes.
I hope you are not bribed by the tobacco industry or by the pharmaceutical industry and that you will take the only right decision
I had been smoking 60 black tobacco cigarettes without filter a day for 45 years. Then on October 3rd 2012 I bought an ego electronic personal vaporizer. On October 4th I smoked only 3 cigarettes that were (I hope) the last ones of my life. I’m glad I possibly will escape cancer and other bad diseases unless you ban advanced personal vaporizers (APV). I never tried to quit smoking and even used to say I would be smoking all my life and that the odds were 50% that nothing bad would happen to me. Now my hair, my clothes, my house don’t stink anymore and I can climb up the stairs far more easily.
I love vaping peach, banana, cherry, watermelon with 18 mg of nicotin and don’t intend to vape without nicotin. If you ban APV or don’t let me vape with a high degree of nicotin I am sure that by your fault I’ll be smoking 60 cigarettes a day again.
It is clear that cigarettes kill, I don’t think e-cigarettes are as dangerous because there is no tar, no carbon monoxide and no other horrible things contained in cigarettes.
I hope you are not bribed by the tobacco industry or by the pharmaceutical industry and that you will take the only right decision
Submitted mine this morning. I have saved the letter that I uploaded onto my desktop. After submission I did a copy and paste of the tracking number onto the third page of my letter so I have it handy
I will fight for vaping.
I will fight for vaping.
Here's mine. Probably too long, but I didn't have time to write a shorter one.
Dear Madams or Sirs,
I started smoking in 1977 when I was 15 years old and I smoked on average two packs a day. I began trying to quit in my thirties, but had little success until I started using a nicotine vaporizer (e-cigarette). I tried switching to other forms of tobacco, from chewing tobacco to smoking a pipe. I used every smoking cessation approach from nicotine gum to hypnosis. My most successful attempt lasted nine months using double patches and a drug, but like the other attempts, when I stopped the therapy, I returned to smoking. The patches were burning my skin and the (FDA approved) drug gave me horrific nightmares and made me feel dumb and lethargic.
Over two years ago, I tried to go “cold turkey” and on the third day I was on my way to the convenience store for cigarettes when I decided I’d try the “e-cigarette” I had seen at a local mall before I bough cigarettes. I didn’t really like the e-cigarette at first, but it “took the edge off” of my withdrawals enough that I decided to give it a week. Three weeks later, I purchased a more reliable unit from an online retailer and I have not smoked any tobacco product for over two years now.
My health and breathing improved remarkably in less than six months. I felt as good as I had after the nine month success I had earlier, only better because I no longer craved cigarettes. I play bagpipes, so my lung capacity is probably higher than most, but until I had a little over a year without cigarettes, I didn’t know it was possible to play for longer than thirty minutes. I really enjoy not smelling like an ashtray, being able to live indoors, and a million other non-smoker-only things that I now enjoy as a result of switching to a nicotine vaporizer.
For a final word on impact to my health, from a purely subjective standpoint, it is about the same as the impact from my teakettle.
This is the first thing like a nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) that has worked for me, and I have no intention of discontinuing it’s use any time soon. I think a big part of the success is that I enjoy it. I actually enjoy the experience much more than I ever enjoyed smoking. At first I used tobacco flavored juices, but I soon learned that I liked sweet flavors much more. My favorite for the past year has been “gingerbread” and in many (non-flavor) ways, it’s like my “brand” of cigarettes was (Marlboro, 100s).
One of the other significant contributing factors is the fact that I’m “driving.” Much like cigarettes, I can self-adjust my nicotine dosage by using it less, or by using a product with a lower content if I want. I still use about the strongest concentration and I probably use the vaporizer as much or more than I smoked, probably because my nicotine addiction is profound, and I don’t feel comfortable with anything less. If regulations were imposed, I would almost certainly return to smoking. I don’t want to. But I know me. I’ve seen me do it before.
I don’t think vaporizers should be classified as an NRT, because the nicotine is not replaced. Then again, that holds true for patches, gum and lozenges as well. But, unlike “NRT”s I don’t even consider it “therapy.” It’s just something I do instead of smoking cigarettes.
The bottom line is that I am addicted to nicotine and will probably continue to use it in any case. If the FDA limits nicotine vaporizer use by classifying it as an NRT and seeking to limit the dosage, or duration, I will in all likelihood return to smoking cigarettes at some point.
Please do not propose the “deeming” regulation that would ban e-cigarettes. I feel that this regulation would eliminate or reduce access to a relatively harmless product that has given me my health back and may save the lives of millions struggling with nicotine addiction. I’m not a lawyer, but you have to agree that this at least seems counterproductive with regard to the FDA’s stated purposes in promoting public health.
I would also like to ask that the misleading and incorrect information about e-cigarettes be removed from your web site. For instance, the information about carcinogens detected in e-cigarettes seems to omit the fact that it is no higher than that found in NRTs and is in fact much lower than found in traditional cigarettes. I think the stated purposes of the FDA (promoting public health) would be much better served if it did not publish un-scientific and unsupported claims that will prevent people from adopting a much less harmful alternative to smoking.
Dear Madams or Sirs,
I started smoking in 1977 when I was 15 years old and I smoked on average two packs a day. I began trying to quit in my thirties, but had little success until I started using a nicotine vaporizer (e-cigarette). I tried switching to other forms of tobacco, from chewing tobacco to smoking a pipe. I used every smoking cessation approach from nicotine gum to hypnosis. My most successful attempt lasted nine months using double patches and a drug, but like the other attempts, when I stopped the therapy, I returned to smoking. The patches were burning my skin and the (FDA approved) drug gave me horrific nightmares and made me feel dumb and lethargic.
Over two years ago, I tried to go “cold turkey” and on the third day I was on my way to the convenience store for cigarettes when I decided I’d try the “e-cigarette” I had seen at a local mall before I bough cigarettes. I didn’t really like the e-cigarette at first, but it “took the edge off” of my withdrawals enough that I decided to give it a week. Three weeks later, I purchased a more reliable unit from an online retailer and I have not smoked any tobacco product for over two years now.
My health and breathing improved remarkably in less than six months. I felt as good as I had after the nine month success I had earlier, only better because I no longer craved cigarettes. I play bagpipes, so my lung capacity is probably higher than most, but until I had a little over a year without cigarettes, I didn’t know it was possible to play for longer than thirty minutes. I really enjoy not smelling like an ashtray, being able to live indoors, and a million other non-smoker-only things that I now enjoy as a result of switching to a nicotine vaporizer.
For a final word on impact to my health, from a purely subjective standpoint, it is about the same as the impact from my teakettle.
This is the first thing like a nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) that has worked for me, and I have no intention of discontinuing it’s use any time soon. I think a big part of the success is that I enjoy it. I actually enjoy the experience much more than I ever enjoyed smoking. At first I used tobacco flavored juices, but I soon learned that I liked sweet flavors much more. My favorite for the past year has been “gingerbread” and in many (non-flavor) ways, it’s like my “brand” of cigarettes was (Marlboro, 100s).
One of the other significant contributing factors is the fact that I’m “driving.” Much like cigarettes, I can self-adjust my nicotine dosage by using it less, or by using a product with a lower content if I want. I still use about the strongest concentration and I probably use the vaporizer as much or more than I smoked, probably because my nicotine addiction is profound, and I don’t feel comfortable with anything less. If regulations were imposed, I would almost certainly return to smoking. I don’t want to. But I know me. I’ve seen me do it before.
I don’t think vaporizers should be classified as an NRT, because the nicotine is not replaced. Then again, that holds true for patches, gum and lozenges as well. But, unlike “NRT”s I don’t even consider it “therapy.” It’s just something I do instead of smoking cigarettes.
The bottom line is that I am addicted to nicotine and will probably continue to use it in any case. If the FDA limits nicotine vaporizer use by classifying it as an NRT and seeking to limit the dosage, or duration, I will in all likelihood return to smoking cigarettes at some point.
Please do not propose the “deeming” regulation that would ban e-cigarettes. I feel that this regulation would eliminate or reduce access to a relatively harmless product that has given me my health back and may save the lives of millions struggling with nicotine addiction. I’m not a lawyer, but you have to agree that this at least seems counterproductive with regard to the FDA’s stated purposes in promoting public health.
I would also like to ask that the misleading and incorrect information about e-cigarettes be removed from your web site. For instance, the information about carcinogens detected in e-cigarettes seems to omit the fact that it is no higher than that found in NRTs and is in fact much lower than found in traditional cigarettes. I think the stated purposes of the FDA (promoting public health) would be much better served if it did not publish un-scientific and unsupported claims that will prevent people from adopting a much less harmful alternative to smoking.
I just tried and I don't get it.
They almost make it to where you can't figure it out out
What ever, I'm over B/C if it does get banned.... This when I move
Imagine that though ejuice a controlled subtance. What kind of world is this
They almost make it to where you can't figure it out out
What ever, I'm over B/C if it does get banned.... This when I move
Imagine that though ejuice a controlled subtance. What kind of world is this
WHAT I didn't think were supposed to post it here were we.... I'll read the thread rules again
For an easy way to type up your comment and know how many characters you have, this site was very handy... http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/charcount.shtml
I was able to type it up and the copy and paste it into the FDA form space.
I was able to type it up and the copy and paste it into the FDA form space.
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