FDA Bans Flavors in Tobacco Cigarettes

[Vocalek]

I signed up for the Medwatch tobacco news and received a link to this today:

Letter to Industry on Cigarettes Containing Certain Characterizing Flavors

Letter to Industry on Cigarettes Containing Certain Characterizing Flavors

Excerpt:
As of the September 22, 2009, effective date, cigarettes and their component parts that fail to comply with the special rule established under section 907 are deemed adulterated under section 902 of the Act. Under the Act, adulterated products sold or held for sale in the United States may be subject to seizure under section 304 of the Act. In addition, manufacturers, distributors, and retailers may be subject to injunction actions, civil money penalties, and/or criminal prosecution for violating the requirements of the Act (FFDCA, sections 301, 302, 303). FDA intends to use the full range of enforcement tools within the Agency’s authority to ensure compliance with the new requirement.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

"Congress has stated that flavors make cigarettes more appealing to youth and often result in exposure to additional carcinogens and other toxic constituents. The removal from the market of cigarettes that contain certain characterizing flavors is an important step in FDA’s efforts to reduce the burden of illness and death caused by tobacco products."


This quote right here is how the FDA uses fear and saftey to obtain their goals. Expect more in the future and expect more to buy into it. That is the reality of it.


Sun

 

[AngusATAT]

So... do they consider menthol a flavor? Because if so, I'll be able to hear the screaming from my front porch.

 

[Mighty Cowphin]

I never tried the flavored tabacco... but even so... this is getting really ridiculous... soon they will ban breathing in the cities... I mean after all... there is a flavor to the air... LOL.. not a good one... but stilllllllll

 

[mbolack]

It excludes menthol and tobacco flavors. But I understand a lot of cigarette tobacco is subtly flavored (not to overpower the tobacco but to enhance it... am I saying this right?) I thought a lot of regular tobacco cigarettes had some vanilla and caramel flavors in them... am I wrong here?

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

They will make new laws because they don't have time or resources to enforce the laws they already have in place. These sorts of laws are now requiring the manufacturers to comply, when in fact, they should be enforced by the convenience store clerks, and parents.

Granted, there is really no way to keep a kid who wants them from getting cigarettes (even if there was an all-out ban on tobacco), if there's a will, there's a way. It's always been that way, and always will. ....... and Marijuana are just as easy to obtain today as before they were considered illegal, you just have to know the right people.

Did you hear that? That's your freedom being flushed down the toilet, one law at a time.

 

[AngusATAT]

I am seriously losing my faith in government agencies more and more every day.

And I really didn't have a lot to begin with.

 

[Vocalek]

Commentary:

Flavor cigarette ban curbs freedom, helps big tobacco keep selling

A well written article. The comments are interesting, but this one is especially disturbing:

GOD says:
They need to ban ALL smoking tobacco. NOBODY has ever benefited from smoking tobacco! Any person that smokes within 100 feet of a child should be executed on the spot! Any woman that subjects her fetus to tobacco or any other defilement should be given a hysterectomy and have her vagina cauterized! It's deplorable that a so-called "parent" would intentionally cause damage to their children's health in order to get a fix. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO HARM CHILDREN!!!!!!
September 12, 7:43 PM

 

[PlanetScribbles]

I never tried the flavored tabacco... but even so... this is getting really ridiculous... soon they will ban breathing in the cities... I mean after all... there is a flavor to the air... LOL.. not a good one... but stilllllllll

It begs the question, what if e-cigs are designated a 'tobacco product'? Does that mean that if they intend to ban all flavors, they effectively leave you vaping plain pg/vg??
As far as I am concerned, I feel for you guys over there. You are ruled by a bunch of totalitarian scumwads.

 

[AngusATAT]

It begs the question, what if e-cigs are designated a 'tobacco product'? Does that mean that if they intend to ban all flavors, they effectively leave you vaping plain pg/vg??

Well, if they have their way, we'd all have to go back to cancer sticks anyway.

 

[jvapor]

It begs the question, what if e-cigs are designated a 'tobacco product'? Does that mean that if they intend to ban all flavors, they effectively leave you vaping plain pg/vg??
As far as I am concerned, I feel for you guys over there. You are ruled by a bunch of totalitarian scumwads.

On the other hand we as individuals can mix our own flavors into the VG/PG. They don't need to be sold with flavors.

 

[kcr]

But Nanny Peggy and her SS soldiers know what is best for us!



Out of that whole list, I have only ever heard of clove cigarettes. Are there really strawberry-flavored tobacco cigarettes? I have never seen or heard tell of them.

Does this apply to pipe tobacco and Skoal? Those are the ones that would use flavors, aren't they?

Lord, deliver us from these nimrods.

 

[Vocalek]

But Nanny Peggy and her SS soldiers know what is best for us!



Out of that whole list, I have only ever heard of clove cigarettes. Are there really strawberry-flavored tobacco cigarettes? I have never seen or heard tell of them.

Does this apply to pipe tobacco and Skoal? Those are the ones that would use flavors, aren't they?

Lord, deliver us from these nimrods.

From the FDA Letter:

This standard applies to all tobacco products that meet the definition of a “cigarette” in section 900(3) of the Act even if they are not labeled as “cigarettes” or are labeled as cigars or as some other product.


Anybody have a link to the full text of the act, as finally passed?

 

[Kate51]

My daughter just said something about the paper in Camel cigs has been changed, neither of us knew what the idea was, but she did say it changed the flavor of the cigarette very drastically. She's now working with a 901, bless her heart, so is not too concerned anymore. But yes things are a-changing, that's what we wanted, right.....
Scared yet? I am.

 

[ckc]

It excludes menthol and tobacco flavors. But I understand a lot of cigarette tobacco is subtly flavored (not to overpower the tobacco but to enhance it... am I saying this right?) I thought a lot of regular tobacco cigarettes had some vanilla and caramel flavors in them... am I wrong here?

Your right theres flavouring in them.

I guess this covers flavoured Tips for rolling your own. Will this cover Herbal cigarettes then?

 

[PlanetScribbles]

On the other hand we as individuals can mix our own flavors into the VG/PG. They don't need to be sold with flavors.

That's true, but you should have the choice. I can never seem to replicate the available e-liquids. The experience isn't the same with Loranns and a base liquid, although I agree that it could be done with a big enough 'library' of flavors.
My gripe is that it shouldn't even be an issue. This discussion shouldn't even be taking place in a free society.

 

[apathyps]

I am also a bit confused by this. All the literature says flavored tobacco and flavored cigarettes... but does that include (as the above poster asked) bulk flavored tobacco? What about flavored pipe tobacco?

Will they allow the flavorings and the tobacco to be sold seperately?

I used to smoke Djarum's and Dreams here and there. Vanilla, Cherry, Chocolate, Blacks, Bali Hai... mmm bali hai. These days I have moved back over to 80% cigarettes and 20% e-cig.

Would hate to see some of the interesting tobacco flavors dissapear within the next two weeks.

I've started to stock up a little bit on flavored rolling papers as it seems those are going to be dissapearing as well.

This **** is really getting ridiculous. How can they ban FLAVORED PAPER!? That to me is ****ing insanity.

I feel completely powerless to change any of this crap.

Sucks.

Afraid for e-cigs.

 

[MrKai]

I know y'all like to scream from the rooftops and whatnot, so I am glad to be here to balance that

Mint Flavor, erm, I mean "Menthol" has a one-year reprieve. They will likely ban menthol next fall unless BigCig can convince them The Children™ have a distain for it or one of the Anti-Smoking groups call them on their BS

"Menthol" not a flavor, lol

Yeah no, the didn't *completely* get away with that; it comes up again next year for review.

-K

 

[BigJimW]

GOD says:
They need to ban ALL smoking tobacco. NOBODY has ever benefited from smoking tobacco! Any person that smokes within 100 feet of a child should be executed on the spot! Any woman that subjects her fetus to tobacco or any other defilement should be given a hysterectomy and have her vagina cauterized! It's deplorable that a so-called "parent" would intentionally cause damage to their children's health in order to get a fix. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO HARM CHILDREN!!!!!!
September 12, 7:43 PM

God, Banzhaf is at it again.

 

[Vocalek]

God, Banzhaf is at it again.

You're right! It does sound like him.