FDA claims caffeine is unsafe additive in drinks

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The negative claims about aspartame have not been scientifically proven as far as I can tell. Twenty-some countries have done numerous studies of it over the past 20 years and all concluded it was safe to consume. (I did some research when someone posted that people shouldn't soak their attys with diet cola because of aspartame. While diet cola isn't the best cleaner anyhow, I would surmise that after a thorough rinsing with hot water there wouldn't be any aspartame left on the atty.) Just one source: Is aspartame safe? – The Chart - CNN.com Blogs

The scare tactics used in the comments section of that link are downright ridiculous. For example, claims that aspartame creates formaldehyde (sounds scary, right?) are along the same lines as "e-cigarettes contain antifreeze." From a 2002 study: "With regards to formaldehyde, it is rapidly converted in the body, and the amounts of formaldehyde from the metabolism of aspartame is trivial when compared to the amounts produced routinely by the human body and from other foods and drugs. Ingesting aspartame at the 90th percentile of intake would produce 25 times less methanol than would be considered toxic."

It does seem that aspartame has been anecdotally linked to cause migraines and depression in SOME people, but any product - including natural products like eggs, nuts, milk and seafood - cause adverse reactions in some people. But there is no scientific evidence (and they've looked) to support the claim that aspartame causes brain lesions, cancer, seizures, blindness or any other major disease.

No doubt your summation is correct kristin. In fact i'm sure it is. However, if the FDA played by the same standards in the case of aspartame and e-cigs, they would try to ban both or sanction both. The 'risks' of using e-cigs in all honesty is not too different to the 'unknowns' of using aspartame. Just different agendas at work.
 

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People may find this ACSH article on saccharin interesting: The Bitter Truth About a Sweetener Scare > News & Commentary > ACSH.

It can be seen as similar to e-cigarette agenda - the FDA banned saccharin with little or no evidence of cancer risk and despite much evidence to the contrary. Just as the health groups claim that e-cigarettes are a complete unknown, in spite of several tests and studies including the FDA testing, there are hundreds of tests and studies which support the safety of aspartame that the anti-aspartame groups DON'T mention. They tend to only mention the earliest studies which support their agenda. It's strange to see how differently the FDA has treated saccharin vs. aspartame and how special interest groups' claims, not science, affected both of those products and is affecting e-cigarettes, as well. Seeing how these played out is very enlightening in respect to what is going on with e-cigarettes.

I tend to trust the ACSH and Dr. Whelan - they are doctors and scientists who support e-cigarettes (http://www.acsh.org/factsfears/newsid.1617/news_detail.asp) and also don't tow the FDA line.

Also: Health Panel Affirms Safety of Sugar Substitutes > News & Commentary > ACSH

A more recent entry on aspartame: Dispatch: Aspartame By A Different Name > Facts & Fears > ACSH

No doubt your summation is correct kristin. In fact i'm sure it is. However, if the FDA played by the same standards in the case of aspartame and e-cigs, they would try to ban both or sanction both. The 'risks' of using e-cigs in all honesty is not too different to the 'unknowns' of using aspartame. Just different agendas at work.
 
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The journal Nature warned that "it would be all too easy for public apprehension to be raised to the pitch where a fever of vegetarian faddism drives everything but mothers' milk from the market," adding in another editorial that the evidence against cyclamates was "about as solid as candy floss."

It's telling that as long as 41 years on, the FDA are still practising their fiercely zealous brand of regulation. What does that matter though, they sold short on thalidomide so to hell with the thousands of lost lives caused by that same puritan regulation regime since then :facepalm:
I might be lucky and back a 25/1 winner on the ponies, does that mean I should spend the rest of my life backing useless nags because I lucked out on one single occasion? There lies the difference between scientific study and idealism.
 

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The FDA's authority is about to expand if the Legislature has anything to do about it.

Growers question food safety bill - Bakersfield.com

Senate bill S 510 vote imminent - procedural vote passes 74-25

"US Senate offices are experiencing a huge backlash of grassroots opposition to the bill -- called the Food Safety Modernization Act -- as virtually every health freedom organization, family farm group and even dietary supplement companies have aligned to oppose this new bill. It is being called "The most dangerous bill in United States history" and would thrust America into a new Dark Ages of FDA tyranny over seeds, foods, herbs, gardens and nutritional supplements. "
 

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Just plain rediculous. What good it this going to do? Is it going to stop a college kid from doing yagger bombs till he drops? Is going to stop anyone from having a jack and coke. Unless they make booze or caffinated drinks illegal I'm pretty darn sure people will put them together.

Are you kidding me? Everyone knows that laws solve everything!! Hell, the gun ban in DC only caused the highest rate of violent crime in the history of any city.. in the whole country. If they were to outlaw mixing alcohol with caffeine, I am sure that no one would ever have a mixed drink, again. Government is such a wonderful solution to all of our problems. And they CARE about us.

I can prove that government is the answer.


Heck, I bet that our government would spend as much as a few thousand dollars to save one of our lives, so long as it was a healthy tax payer or the publicity would garner the attention a few thousand new voters!! Now how can you question people who care THAT MUCH for our wellbeing?!
 

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I believe the FDA next week will be announcing that football helmets were unsafe and unapproved. In addition, the Treasury Department is looking into whether these products can be legally shipped due to their mislabeling.

“FDA does not find support for the claim that the addition of padding to these plastic shells is ‘generally recognized as safe,’ which is the legal standard,” the FDA’s principal deputy commissioner, Joshua M. Sharfstein, is preparing to say in a statement forthcoming at a later date.
 
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