Fda news release

[EdensDaddy]

wait... are you saying ecigs want to do harm to my children??? well then. That's a different story... BAN THEM!!!

Signed,
Mr. I.M. Gullible

 

[surbitonPete]

Perhaps all the e-cig retailers in the US should get together and start some kind of mass distribution of leaflets that give a more balanced view of the dangers of e-cigs in comparison to smoking.

 

[grimmer255]

heres the list
Table 1. Results on analyses of whole cartridges
mg nicotine/cartridge
by HPLC-UV
Sample tobacco specific
nitrosamines (TSNA)A
10% ACN and 1% PA in water
extraction
methanol
extraction

Identification of
possible tobacco specific impurities and DEG
by GC-MS/MSB

Smoking Everywhere
e-cigarettes NAB NAT NNK NNN fiber absorbent plug & wrapper fiber absorbent DEG Cotinine AnabasineMyosmine!-nicotyrine
555 High 4.90 1.80 5.98 D D D D D
Cherry HIGH 4.88 0.86 5.50 ND D ND D D
Tobacco Original MED ND ND D D 4.44 1.03 5.15 ND D D D D
Menthol HIGH 4.02 0.71 4.23 ND D D D D
Tobacco Original LOW ND ND D D 2.93 0.51 2.65 ND D D D D
Menthol MED 2.26 0.31 2.71 ND D D D D
Apple LOW ND ND ND ND 1.63 0.61 1.78 ND D D D D
Menthol LOW 1.42 0.30 1.57 ND D ND D D
Vanilla LOW ND ND ND ND 1.18 0.34 0.96 ND D D D D
Tobacco Original NO ND ND ND ND 0.04 0.00 0.03 ND ND ND ND ND
Vanilla NO 0.04 0.01 0.05 ND ND ND ND ND
Cherry NO 0.01 0.00 0.07 ND ND ND ND ND
Chocolate NO ND ND ND ND 0.01 0.00 0.03 ND ND ND ND ND
Apple NO ND ND ND ND 0.00 0.00 0.00 ND ND ND ND ND

njoy e-cigarettes
Menthol high D D D D 6.66 1.97 6.76 ND D D D D
Regular medium D D D D 4.09 1.58 4.31 ND D D D D
Menthol medium D D D D 3.98 1.46 4.77 ND D D D D
Regular low 3.35 1.56 5.16 ND D D D D
Control Sample – Nicotrol
10 mg cartridge
Mfgr. specification




(NMT
0.5%) (NMT
0.5%) (NMT 0.5%)
D= detected, , ND= not detected NAB = N-nitrosoanabasine (LOQ = 21 ppb); NAT = N-nitrosoanatabine (LOQ = 21 ppb); NNK = 4-(methylnitrosamino)-1-(3-
pyridyl)-1-butanone (LOQ = 75 ppb); NNN = N-nitrosonornicotine (LOQ = 24 ppb)
A
analyte was detected but at a level less than the limit-of-quantitation. Open boxes indicate the sample was not available for testing.
DEG = diethylene glycol
B
Limit of detection Cotinine 20 ppb. Anabasine 10 ppb; myosmine 69 ppb; !-nicotyrine 170 ppb – present but at less than the level of the Nicotrol specification

 

[TommyGunBC]

The FDA + US Government = Lies !!!

 

[grimmer255]

Limit of detection Cotinine 20 ppb. Anabasine 10 ppb; myosmine 69 ppb; !-nicotyrine 170 ppb – present but at less than the level of the Nicotrol specification

 

[smokinsimon]

Seems like if all manufacturers, suppliers, associations, and clubs, need to get the testing happening, and need to do it fast. FDA just hit you the ball, now it's in your court. Hit it back, and make it a good one.

 

[TheIllustratedMan]

grimmer255 - can you reformat that so that it's readable in table format and re-post it here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-regarding-fda-press-release-7-22-repost.html

that would be awesome.

-Nate

 

[grimmer255]

i could try

 

[OutWest]

the report in pdf format, courtesy of the FDA http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/ScienceResearch/UCM173250.pdf

 

[grimmer255]

the report in pdf format, courtesy of the FDA http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/ScienceResearch/UCM173250.pdf

its page 4

 

[EdensDaddy]

One thing that I think is out of perspective is the ppb... most things (almost everything) is tested as ppm or parts per million. if something posts as 75 ppb the ppm equation for the same property would be .075 ppm which is so minute... It seems to me they are trying to persuade the public with means they don't understand... and try to relate to a percent... which is why they don't go with PPT... 75,000 Parts per trillion. I can hear my friends now... "no way, e-cigs are like... 75% antifreeze!"

 

[TheIllustratedMan]

Thanks guys, adding it to my thread.

 

[grimmer255]

Thanks guys, adding it to my thread.

sweet i was almost ready to give it to ya but you already have it done....

 

[TheIllustratedMan]

oh hell, if you have the table post it there, by all means... i just posted a link to the report

 

[grimmer255]

crapolla... i didnt save it......

 

[lancer]

I can't even fathom that smoking tobacco is safer....Did the FDA release this report? Sounds like hear say that the tobacco industry prematurely released...I'm stocking up in the morning...27 years of slavery to a product that has killed many loved ones...E-cigs is our path to health in my mind, if there's a concern with the juice, I'm sure it can be corrected.

 

[HighTech]

the FDA is full-o-crap, new meaning of FDA (Federal Dumb Azzes)

Thats just funny right there!

 

[dochogan]

...snip...CoderGuy has been very enlightening tonite regarding the ridiculousness just passed in WA. Um... does the WA state government think their adult citizens need controlling or what? And we all know, when one state does something like that and gets away with it, it's just a matter of time before they all do. Look at the smoking bans. How ridiculous did we all think those "crazy californians" were when they started banning smoking years ago? Yep. Ignoring bit everyone in the ....... hard.

I just want to point out, knowing it doesn't help the current topic at all...isn't Washington the same state where it's illegal to pump your own gas? (maybe that's Oregon, though). If so, though...who knows what kind of wacky laws a state like that would pass?

As far as I know ecigs are already banned in Hong Kong. And recently China prohibited manufacture of eliquid with nic above 24 mg, so the extra-high nic eliquid is drying up too.

Also largely irrelevant, but in the interest of facts (or just nitpicking, really), it is my understanding that China banned the EXPORT of nicotine solutions over 24mg/ml, not the manufacture of same.

 

[nycsublimegirl]

per the FDA press conference yesterday


NY times 7/23 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/he...er=rss&emc=rss


USA today 7/23 FDA considers ways to short-circuit electronic cigarettes - USATODAY.com


Charlotte Observer 7/23 FDA: Electronic cigarettes contain toxic chemicals - CharlotteObserver.com

This will show you The ECA is trying its hardest to get the e smoker voice out there....to get to the media in equal time with the FDA

 

[Our House]

OK, I was not home earlier...
<snip>
OK, I got it out. Use it however you can.

Awesome post. It was a pleasure to read.

Thanks TIM!