FDA seizing flavor shipments?

[Sainted_S]

Got this on my facebook feed
FlavourArt Update: Shipment still in customs for FDA examination. I was informed it can take another 30 days for it to be released. If all goes well, now we are looking at mid April. Sorry for the delay!

This is ridiculous, now they are seizing flavorings?

 

[yohann976]

I guess they do pretty much whatever they want. You're right, it's ridiculous.

 

[dspin]

The gestapo is alive and well around the world

 

[Iluvthearmy]

That is truly disgusting, and a little distressing. some things I hear like that make me want to just head north and find a secluded mountain in canada to live on.

 

[kristin]

Considering nicotine e-cigs are banned in Canada, I don't know if you want to do that.

make me want to just head north and find a secluded mountain in canada to live on.

 

[rothenbj]

I had a snus order from a vendor that still ships in from the EU that everyone raved about the quick delivery. It was a fairly large order since they were offering free shipping at $200 so I thought I'd restock and get some cans not available at the US distributors. I got the same message and got concerned. It took about three weeks to finally clear.

The FDA has too much money on their hands.

 

[classwife]

Flavorings......just crazy !...but .....if they start that then MANY industries that use flavorings are going to be affected......(and complain?)......

 

[TennDave]

I don't think they can do that- but depends on how they package them. I foresee a time of packaging the e-cig flavors as "food grade" and sending them separately from e-juice and other e-cig supplies.

 

[Cephane]

I remember when I was in middle school there was this whole FDA scandal / issue with flavoured analogs. Apparently flavorings make them more appealing to children which sounds rediculous, but when it comes to eJuice I can kind of see their point. Nicotine is a poison, and if you have a non-childproof bottle of juice that a little one gets ahold of, then the flaovrings could possibly made it just tasty enough to be deadly. Needless to say, children require much lower doses of nic to be lethal. So yes, they've overstepped their boundaries, but i think at least on this they have good intentions.... maybe.

 

[Pamdane]

IF THAT LINE of thinking is true, why do they not require childproof tops on household chemicals, typically kept under sinks in a childs reach? Lemon flavored bleach, lemon flavored pine cleaner, pretty blue ammonia glass cleaner...It is a parents responsibility to keep their children safe, not Uncle Sams.
My children are under 6 years old. I feel this argument holds as much water as a sieve. I wont give them the benefit of a doubt on this one. You are being generous.

I remember when I was in middle school there was this whole FDA scandal / issue with flavoured analogs. Apparently flavorings make them more appealing to children which sounds rediculous, but when it comes to eJuice I can kind of see their point. Nicotine is a poison, and if you have a non-childproof bottle of juice that a little one gets ahold of, then the flaovrings could possibly made it just tasty enough to be deadly. Needless to say, children require much lower doses of nic to be lethal. So yes, they've overstepped their boundaries, but i think at least on this they have good intentions.... maybe.

 

[Eddie.Willers]

IF THAT LINE of thinking is true, why do they not require childproof tops on household chemicals, typically kept under sinks in a childs reach? Lemon flavored bleach, lemon flavored pine cleaner, pretty blue ammonia glass cleaner...It is a parents responsibility to keep their children safe, not Uncle Sams..

Amen to that, Brother!

 

[RippleInStillWater]

The FDA is chronically understaffed as are a lot of the federal departments they have to protect the average american citizen; corporations have had their say and them and the USDA can't even come close to inspecting what needs to as funding is slashed. We do a great job of spinning our wheels for billions in Iraq and Afganistan -- we need to protect ourselves!!!! Jeez, Michelle Bachmann want to dump the EPA, wtf is she thinking, isn't clean water and air a good thing for us and our children?

 

[cr12]

theres no doubt these organizations serve a purpose. Unfortunately i think their purpose has been lost due to over reaching of all of them, most peoples problems with the FDA USDA EPA is the knee-jerk reactions and waste and abuse.

 

[Cephane]

Cleaners are not "flavoured". They are scented. HUGE difference. If a child was to take a sip of windex or pinesol they're more than likely going to spit it out. They might smell pretty but they taste horrific. Juice on the other hand is flavoured. It's MADE to taste good (i licked my 0mg raspberry lemonade and it tastes similar to children's vitamins when in liquid form). Using that specific example, if a child were to walk into my house and see my bottle of juice labeled "Raspberry Lemonade" pick it up and drink it, it is not far fetched to think that they might actually think this stuff tastes good. And that could be a VERY bad senario. Now, I am by NO MEANS saying that it is Uncle Sam's job to police your children in your house, or to limit how we are able to enjoy our nic, nor do i completely support what the FDA is doing. All I am saying is that they do have some viable concerns when it comes to children and the safety of flavoured juice.

 

[izabella]

It's MADE to taste good (i licked my 0mg raspberry lemonade and it tastes similar to children's vitamins when in liquid form). Using that specific example, if a child were to walk into my house and see my bottle of juice labeled "Raspberry Lemonade" pick it up and drink it, it is not far fetched to think that they might actually think this stuff tastes good. And that could be a VERY bad senario.

If it has 0 nic, then all it has is PG, VG, and food flavoring and sweetener. How bad can that be since all of those ingredients are approved for food use?

It's the nicotine that would be dangerous, and nicotine flavored juice does NOT taste good. Some of it doesn't even smell good.

VG is used in vitamins, by the way. Could be why your juice tastes like vitamins.

 

[Cephane]

I was just using that juice as an example. Many of my juices are drink flavoured, and as such a child might not make the connection that the liquid in the bottle isn't the liquid named on the outside. Not all juices that contain nic are necessarily nic FLAVOURED. And while I'm not to keen on testing any of mine out, a low nic fruit or candy flavoured juice carries the possibility of being just convincing enough for a child not to spit it out immediately. 10 -20 mg is a lethal dose for a child. Many of the widely used nic juices contain more than that in just one mL. If you're using 24mg juice it takes less then half a mL to be deadly, less than 1/3 of a mL if you use 36mg. Is that not cause to be at least SLIGHTLY concerned?

 

[Cephane]

Oh, and last time I checked lemon scented bleach, and pine cleaners DO come with childproof caps...

 

[izabella]

Is that not cause to be at least SLIGHTLY concerned?

Not any more or less than any other household item that could kill or hurt them. Like water, in which a child can drown in just a few inches.

Parental responsibility is all that is required, just like with anything else.

 

[x-smok3]

I am 46 years old and grew up in a time when we didn't have Uncle Sam watching every move our parents made, regulating every product to save our curious little selves, and telling us what we could and could not buy. Yes, by some miracle I lived through it as did a few others. I didn't even feel in danger as my foolish parents watched out for us and felt qualified to protect us from dangerous or even enticing products (they even resorted to horrible violence to our backsides, saying they were looking out for us). Had we only known how much safer we would have been with big brother watching I am sure we would have begged the government to protect us from the dangers of the world and our so called loving parents! They are from the government and they are here to help, so take it easy on big brother folks!

 

[DaveP]

Cleaners are not "flavoured". They are scented. HUGE difference. If a child was to take a sip of windex or pinesol they're more than likely going to spit it out. They might smell pretty but they taste horrific. Juice on the other hand is flavoured. It's MADE to taste good (i licked my 0mg raspberry lemonade and it tastes similar to children's vitamins when in liquid form). Using that specific example, if a child were to walk into my house and see my bottle of juice labeled "Raspberry Lemonade" pick it up and drink it, it is not far fetched to think that they might actually think this stuff tastes good. And that could be a VERY bad senario. Now, I am by NO MEANS saying that it is Uncle Sam's job to police your children in your house, or to limit how we are able to enjoy our nic, nor do i completely support what the FDA is doing. All I am saying is that they do have some viable concerns when it comes to children and the safety of flavoured juice.

24mg will BURN your mouth so bad that you run to the sink to spit it out and wash your mouth out with water! If it contains NIC, they won't try it twice. Once will be enough.