Federal regulation as a be all/end all

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Nate760

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We see and hear it every day from almost all media outlets when they tackle the subject of e-cigs and vaping, this notion that 1) if something isn't federally regulated, then it simply MUST be dangerous; and 2) if something exists and Washington hasn't regulated it yet, this is a brazen dereliction of duty on their part. The thinking seems to go that if something exists, and there is one chance in a million that it might potentially cause harm to someone somewhere, then federal regulation and federal legislation are not only desirable, but absolutely imperative. The further implication is that grown men and women can't possibly be trusted to make decisions about their own health without explicit guidance from the relevant group of federal bureaucrats.

So few Americans seem to understand any more that, the way our government was originally constituted, federal regulation was supposed to be a last resort, to be undertaken only when absolutely necessary. The framers of our Constitution considered this concept important enough that they enshrined it in the Bill of Rights by enacting the Tenth Amendment, which says quite plainly that all decision-making power not delegated to the federal government by the Constitution or its amendments shall be vested in the states.

When did it happen that we started craving federal oversight and acting like we can't possibly live without it? The whole thing that made our form of government unique in the first place was that it vested as much decision-making power as possible with the states and local municipalities, since it was once taken for granted that people can govern themselves at the local level much more effectively than a far-off monolithic bureaucracy can (this was, incidentally, one of the prime motivating factors in us declaring our independence from Great Britain in the first place). If we've become this habituated to all our decisions being made for us in Washington, why bother still having state boundaries and state governments?
 

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I am glad to see new members get into the political aspect of e cigarettes. The most disturbing aspect of this attack is: why e cigarettes? Why invest so much time and money into this attack? There are some serious issues that need to be taken care of, and instead we get this? If you want to do more join CASAA CASAA (if you haven't already). There is the CASAA part of the forum for more info :)
 

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I am glad to see new members get into the political aspect of e cigarettes. The most disturbing aspect of this attack is: why e cigarettes? Why invest so much time and money into this attack? There are some serious issues that need to be taken care of, and instead we get this? If you want to do more join CASAA CASAA (if you haven't already). There is the CASAA part of the forum for more info :)

The e-cigarette issue, and the moral panic that currently surrounds it, is useful and illustrative even for people who have no vested interest in vaping, because on a number of levels it's offering a good microcosm of some much larger problems that are afflicting our society and government.
 

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There is more than safety in anti e cig legislation.
I feel this is Big Tobacco fighting back. Sugar the local & state politicians. Viola, destroy competition through govt. fiat..

I think good ol' social prejudice is a big component of it as well. Over the years it's become such a matter of social orthodoxy to revile smoking and smokers that, purely out of emotion and behavioral conditioning, many people can't help but display the same revulsion toward anything they think superficially resembles smoking. They hide behind the trusty old canards about "there's not enough research" and "sending the wrong message to the children," when the fact of the matter is that it's nothing but good old-fashioned social bigotry. No amount of data or research will over convince these people that nicotine is as benign as coffee or that vaping poses no material threat to anyone. As long as they see people doing something that they think looks like smoking, they will fight with every fiber of their being to see it eradicated.
 

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I used to be the chairman of a small credit union at our workplace. We eventually had to shut it down and hand the accounts over to a national credit union. Why? Because the regulations became so prohibitively expensive that we couldn't keep it solvent. Regulations are a good to a point, but they're often used to stifle competition.
 

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The most disturbing aspect of this attack is: why e cigarettes? Why invest so much time and money into this attack? There are some serious issues that need to be taken care of, and instead we get this?
In short, because it's easy. If I'm a politician looking for a phony but media-savvy crusade, I can make claims about antifreeze and China and OMG won't someone think of the children. That way I look like I'm doing something for public health, and look how proactive I'm being. Reelect me!

The proposed regulations we're seeing have nothing to do with public health. If the politicians pushing for them did the least bit of research, they'd know that. The problem is, they don't care.

CASAA is a great group, but they're new. They don't have the money, name recognition, or political clout of, say, Philip Morris or General Motors or the NRA. As such, legislators don't have to worry about running afoul of CASAA nearly as much as they have to fear Philip Morris.
 

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Because Pharma lines pockets, and doesn't sell e-cig supplies... If Pfizer had its own line of ejuice, there wouldn't be such a push on regulation
if big pharma had there own line of e-juice there would be tons of regulations and cost 100 times more,and
they would be the only ones allowed to make it.
:2c:
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mike
 
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