Feel like I just wasted money

[tc1]

So I went out and bought about $20-$30 worth of clearomizers/tanks only to find that just about every juice I have has the potential to crack the polycarbon. OI!

This will be my 2nd go around with ecigs ... as I fell off the wagon and went back to analogs. Decides to give it another go and bought an Ego Twist (and about $60 worth of other accessories on the already overloaded credit card. lol)

I REALLY should have done a better job at researching before needlessly wasting money. On the bright side ... I ordered the metal tank for the mini nova.

Kinda makes me nervous knowing that juices can chemically interact with pv devices though. Makes you wonder what chemicals we all could be potentially inhaling that might actually be as bad or WORSE than analogs.

 

[mylose64]

Try using a cheaper site like discount vapors or liberty-flights and don't buy so much at one time. I have bought a lot of stupid stuff in the past and it's hard to figure out what I like best.

I'm not too sure if the juices that can break down polycarbon have potential harm to your lungs. I tend to stay away from those because they ruin my gear.

 

[zapped]

You can always sell those clearomizers in the classifieds. Get a pyrex tank from ibtanked or Phiniac and you wont have to worry about juices cracking them

 

[erictho]

it's just a chemical reaction. i don't think it's necessarily because the ingredients in the juices are volatile. i can see where your concern comes from though, it's probably pretty startling to see.
good luck, and hopefully this doesn't cause you to give up once more. i've been pretty lucky to not have experienced this issue. i just use smoktech tanks, and have used a variety of flavors considered "unsafe" for plastic.

 

[glassmanoak]

Or try polypropylene tanks instead of polycarbonate tanks. Pyrex too.
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[NancyR]

If you start doing some reading, you will find most of the tanks no longer use polycarbonate because of that. Most of the juices I like would also crack them but I have had no issue from any of the newer tanks because most now use polypropylene.

 

[tc1]

I do pretty well at finding good prices. However I bought 4-5 clearomizers and the mini nova before really looking into the whole cracking issue.

I'll prob just end up using them for menthol type juices ... as most of my other juices are banana/cinnamon/acidic.

Saving grace will be the metal tank for the mini nova ... as that should let me use any juice. (hopefully the paint doesn't interact with juices).

 

[tc1]

If you start doing some reading, you will find most of the tanks no longer use polycarbonate because of that. Most of the juices I like would also crack them but I have had no issue from any of the newer tanks because most now use polypropylene.

Most of the tanks I see are still clear. Aren't all clear tanks still made of polycarbon?

 

[tc1]

Or try polypropylene tanks instead of polycarbonate tanks. Pyrex too.
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Only problem for me with those is the fact that I don't want to deal with carto tank systems. I prefer rebuildable atomizer type systems.

 

[tc1]

Try using a cheaper site like discount vapors or liberty-flights and don't buy so much at one time. I have bought a lot of stupid stuff in the past and it's hard to figure out what I like best.

I'm not too sure if the juices that can break down polycarbon have potential harm to your lungs. I tend to stay away from those because they ruin my gear.

I find it pretty crazy that companies didn't bother to check potential chemical reactions from juices before selling to the public. All these polycarbon devices and yet PG is a known chemical solvent to that type of plastic. Not very smart ....

 

[glassmanoak]

Most of the tanks I see are still clear. Aren't all clear tanks still made of polycarbon?

As far as I know, polypropylene is always cloudy, NOT clear

 

[Baditude]

I find it pretty crazy that companies didn't bother to check potential chemical reactions from juices before selling to the public. All these polycarbon devices and yet PG is a known chemical solvent to that type of plastic. Not very smart ....

It's actually polycarbonate, not PG. Don't cause a widescale panic!

Ever since I had a new just-filled clearomizer melt in my hands in literally just 2 minutes with some strawberry lemonade, I have avoided products made with polycarbonate. I can not believe that most of the high end cartotanks and RBAs use fancy-looking polished/brushed stainless steel and titanium metals, charging customers $60 or more, yet are still using polycarbonate as their juice holder.

My favorite line about these high end tanks that still use polycarbonate, "A tank that purdy deserves to wear pyrex."

 

[glassmanoak]

If you start doing some reading, you will find most of the tanks no longer use polycarbonate because of that. Most of the juices I like would also crack them but I have had no issue from any of the newer tanks because most now use polypropylene.

Do you have any reference for this, cause I'd like to use a few clear tanks too?

 

[tc1]

I find it pretty crazy that companies didn't bother to check potential chemical reactions from juices before selling to the public. All these polycarbon devices and yet PG is a known chemical solvent to that type of plastic. Not very smart ....

It's actually polycarbonate, not PG. Don't cause a widescale panic!

Ever since I had a new just-filled clearomizer melt in my hands in literally just 2 minutes with some strawberry lemonade, I have avoided products made with polycarbonate. I can not believe that most of the high end cartotanks and RBAs use fancy-looking polished/brushed stainless steel and titanium metals, charging customers $60 or more, yet are still using polycarbonate as their juice holder.

My favorite line about these high end tanks that still use polycarbonate, "A tank that purdy deserves to wear pyrex."

The PG in juice is what causes the break down of polycarbonate. Mix PG with "acidic" flavoring and you create a pretty quick and nasty solvent for polycarbon plastics.

 

[brockadams]

This really makes me think about vaping..

 

[tc1]

In reality ... plastics and heat are a bad idea in general. Let alone in inhalation systems.
It's something I've generally been pretty wise to ... which is why I'm kicking myself.

Anyone know of any non-carto glass tank systems? Having a mini nova sized glass tank that accepts the nova's hardware would be amazing.

 

[bk78]

In reality ... plastics and heat are a bad idea in general. Let alone in inhalation systems.
It's something I've generally been pretty wise to ... which is why I'm kicking myself.

Anyone know of any non-carto glass tank systems? Having a mini nova sized glass tank that accepts the nova's hardware would be amazing.

Lots of places sell the replaceable metal tanks for the vivi

 

[tc1]

In reality ... plastics and heat are a bad idea in general. Let alone in inhalation systems.
It's something I've generally been pretty wise to ... which is why I'm kicking myself.

Anyone know of any non-carto glass tank systems? Having a mini nova sized glass tank that accepts the nova's hardware would be amazing.

Lots of places sell the replaceable metal tanks for the vivi

Have a metal tube on the way. Just wondered if there is a glass option for nova internals.

 

[bk78]

Have a metal tube on the way. Just wondered if there is a glass option for nova internals.

Sorry I can't help you with that but good luck in finding something that works.

 

[AprilRain]

In reality ... plastics and heat are a bad idea in general. Let alone in inhalation systems.
It's something I've generally been pretty wise to ... which is why I'm kicking myself.

Anyone know of any non-carto glass tank systems? Having a mini nova sized glass tank that accepts the nova's hardware would be amazing.

I wish! I see all these beautiful glass tanks, but they are all for cartos. There's just NO WAY I'm going back to cartos. ick, ick, ick If someone did decide to make a glass tank for the vivi, I'd be thrilled.... But I imagine the threading needed on the tank might be too hard to make work.