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ceramic rope or silica rope as I saw to a thread that vaporer said? Maybe fiberglass?

Fiberglass is a very resisting material, but inflammable. The rope is silica, yes that's sure.

But the interior base that holds the nichrome wire should endure very high temperatures, and is better built in ceramic .

Royalsmokers factory in China has been releasing new catomisers, with no filler inside and ceramic base inside. Is that what you mean? RoyalSmokers electronic cigarette factory in Shenzhen

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The rope is silica, just like in all atomizers. It didn't change. But the white cup inside which the coil sits, is in ceramic now.

I open this thread because I had made a small research about fiberglass and the results were not good at all for human health. I will try to search for silica now. Thanks a lot Mist.
 

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In other cartos the base is made from what? Do you know Mist?

As for the ohms, they just copied ideas from ecf as usual. They cant understand basic things as I see lol

I think they use some kind of polymer. Of course ceramic is better and can withstand more than a thousand degrees in temperature,but in the case of atomizers, I fail to see the real utility of ceramic. The polymer already used is tough enough and I never experienced cases of failure due to melting. At least, it outlives the coil itself.

But maybe I'm missing something.
 
I have a Bulli Extreme with a A1 and purchased some fiberglass rope for the atty by mistake.. It was nasty tasting... Then purchased some silica rope.. No problem at all and by the way with taste just not very much vapor production... I purchased the Bulli Extreme A1 so I can say this.. : total waste of money.. great concept but not functional at 3.7 volts.
 
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I open this thread because I had made a small research about fiberglass and the results were not good at all for human health. I will try to search for silica now. Thanks a lot Mist.

You're right. Fiberglass is very dangerous for the health. It is hard when solid (used for cars and boats), but it is unstable at high temperatures and melts and burns and the fumes and particles that get out of it are dangerous and poisonous.

I remember having read a lot about the silica rope used in atomizers. It was argued at some point that silica particles might be deposited in the lungs and might be dangerous, but after that, it was established that the kind of rope used and the wet state of the rope and the whole process does not leave chances for such residues, if they existed at the first place, to migrate to the lungs.

Something like that...
 

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I think they use some kind of polymer. Of course ceramic is better and can withstand more than a thousand degrees in temperature,but in the case of atomizers, I fail to see the real utility of ceramic. The polymer already used is tough enough and I never experienced cases of failure due to melting. At least, it outlives the coil itself.

But maybe I'm missing something.

The bad thing is that even if the material doesnt melt it still can release really dangerous gases for humans. The more the melting point of a material the better of course so it has lower distress but that doesnt mean a lot of things in most cases.
 

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I have a Bulli Extreme with a A1 and purchased some fiberglass rope for the atty by mistake.. It was nasty tasting... Then purchased some silica rope.. No problem at all and by the way with taste just not very much vapor production... I purchased the Bulli Extreme A1 so I can say this.. : total waste of money.. great concept but not functional at 3.7 volts.

Bulli sells fiberglass or you bought it from another store Mr.? I am sorry you had this experience with this e-cig
 

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You're right. Fiberglass is very dangerous for the health. It is hard when solid (used for cars and boats), but it is unstable at high temperatures and melts and burns and the fumes and particles that get out of it are dangerous and poisonous.

I remember having read a lot about the silica rope used in atomizers. It was argued at some point that silica particles might be deposited in the lungs and might be dangerous, but after that, it was established that the kind of rope used and the wet state of the rope and the whole process does not leave chances for such residues, if they existed at the first place, to migrate to the lungs.

Something like that...

Unfortunately my research is not very good for silica too Mist. I will try to find more info and I will post soon

ps....... the deeper you go to a matter, the more wrongs things you discover. I am starting to believe that the wool inside catridges and cartos is maybe dangerous too.
 

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I am talking for all materials that are involved to an atomizer or cartomizer BuGG. But mostly for the material that the coil is attached on. It accepts the bigger distress of all the others but that still doesnt mean much things. Other materials that are near to the coil may be dangerous too because they can release fumes. I just found that for now and I didnt like it at all:

http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/hs/pdf/gl_silica.pdf

The way I see it is simple. Even without heat it seems to be really dangerous if we inhale it (as dust or as crystals)


ps.... I am starting to have big doubts about what we smoke all these months if not years for some others
 
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I am talking for all materials that are involved to an atomizer or cartomizer BuGG. But mostly for the material that the coil is attached on. It accepts the bigger distress of all the others but that still doesnt mean much things. Other materials that are near to the coil may be dangerous too because they can release fumes. I just found that for now and I didnt like it at all:

http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/hs/pdf/gl_silica.pdf

The way I see it is simple. Even without heat it seems to be really dangerous if we inhale it (as dust or as crystals)

ps.... I am starting to have big doubts about what we smoke all these months if not years for some others

if your concern is whether a certain material is better in the atomization process than another, look into aramid, and some of the chemical and material safety data done on kevlar. but if your concern is whether any material, particularly those man-made, will not potentially emit fumes, release fibrous dust particles, cause some level of discomfort, irritation, or worse with prolonged and massive exposure at some point in the chemical process, then i doubt you'll find much if anything fitting that criteria.
 
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