thank you so much everyone i fell im not going mad i have got the sport i need right here its more than a forum its a family of vapers looking out for each other shes never going to change it a long line of things we lost are son 5 years ago he was born asleep it was my hubbys sisters wedding not long after we could not go as was still in pain she was nasty to my hubby so i told her what i though that it was a place we did not need to be with what we had gone though she said we should put are felling aside for the wedding what can i say ....h i never cared for her after that and never will thank again everyone