HELP Girlfriend (nonsmoker) wants a PV
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O.K. I wasn't going to respond to this thread, but wow, your point is just to good to ignore.
Actually, I do understand the OPs point about the kids. I think I smoked because my Mom smoked, Children are like sponges.
I certainly DO NOT wish to send a msg. to my kids that vaping is okay. I really don't want them to vape OR smoke, to be honest.
There are a number of reasons......the whole hand-to-mouth ritual, puffing on anything is going to give you wrinkles around you lips from pursing lips habitually, inhaling anything except [fresh] air we just don't know enough about, etc.
I speak as someone who is pro-vaping, but I myself am trying and planning to quit vaping eventually as well.
That said, if the girlfriend is at risk for starting to smoke again, by all means, she should get a PV and vape 0 nic. --- and as a full grown woman she really doesn't NEED your permission.
However, I consider vaping a "habit" and I like to replace habits with better habits. So I replaced smoking analogs w/vaping, but I will definitely be replacing vaping with something even better, like walking or swimming or working out or kniitting, or whatever, because I still see vaping as "harm reduction" not harm free.
Plus, I really don't want to be tied to the vape, to the equipment, to the expense, or anything else for more than about another few months. It is not freedom ..... I don't feel free at all, I am sort of a slave to the vape now. Better, but not in my ultimate plan to be free of ALL this stuff.
Actually, the OP does have another choice. Keep the girlfriend, and quit vaping himself, that way if he is concerned aobut what the kids are watching, he will stop vaping in front of them if he thinks its a behavior he thinks they should not be exposed to. I could respect that, ANY parent can choose to do that if they felt this way. And I would not be against it.
I certainly DO NOT wish to send a msg. to my kids that vaping is okay. I really don't want them to vape OR smoke, to be honest.
There are a number of reasons......the whole hand-to-mouth ritual, puffing on anything is going to give you wrinkles around you lips from pursing lips habitually, inhaling anything except [fresh] air we just don't know enough about, etc.
I speak as someone who is pro-vaping, but I myself am trying and planning to quit vaping eventually as well.
That said, if the girlfriend is at risk for starting to smoke again, by all means, she should get a PV and vape 0 nic. --- and as a full grown woman she really doesn't NEED your permission.
However, I consider vaping a "habit" and I like to replace habits with better habits. So I replaced smoking analogs w/vaping, but I will definitely be replacing vaping with something even better, like walking or swimming or working out or kniitting, or whatever, because I still see vaping as "harm reduction" not harm free.
Plus, I really don't want to be tied to the vape, to the equipment, to the expense, or anything else for more than about another few months. It is not freedom ..... I don't feel free at all, I am sort of a slave to the vape now. Better, but not in my ultimate plan to be free of ALL this stuff.
Actually, the OP does have another choice. Keep the girlfriend, and quit vaping himself, that way if he is concerned aobut what the kids are watching, he will stop vaping in front of them if he thinks its a behavior he thinks they should not be exposed to. I could respect that, ANY parent can choose to do that if they felt this way. And I would not be against it.
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I took up knitting about 8 years ago as a calming meditation. Of course you realize there's the expense and equipment of having a yarn stash because you see a pattern you want to do but never get around to because you saw a different pattern you wanted and the yarn you had to buy because it was on sale at a price you would be a fool to pass up and I'm sure you'll get around to finding something for it some day?
My sister's spare room closet is full of yarn. As are quite a few large boxes in the basement. I'm better, I only have a few boxes full. But knitting has never slowed down my smoking or vaping. It just gives me blankets like I grew up with and sweaters I'll actually wear.
I started knitting when I was 4. Got my master knitter certification about 10 years ago. Unfortunately for me the Knitty habit led to a much more expensive and addictive habit....SPINNING.
All those exotic fibers are EXPENSIVE.
Yes, I know it can be expensive! I just gave this away, was seriously into the icelandic yarns and sweaters for a while:
How neat! Yes one of my friends hand-dyes her own fibers, with natural things like red beets, etc. It's really interesting! Post up some of your stuff sometime!
I am married to a non-smoker. Not an ex-smoker. Yes he had a couple of cigarettes a year usually when we were at a bar, but by no means regularly smoked and when I quit smoking a year ago, I don't think he had even had a social cigarette in probably 3 years or more.
When I quit smoking, and started vaping full time, he would occasionally want to taste my juices because they smelled good. I actually bought him some 0 nic juice and that lasted a month or two. I don't think he went through more than 30 ml total.
I didn't read this whole thread, so maybe this was brought up, but even if she tries the 0 nicotine juice and it doesn't give her what she is craving, nicotine is not horrible for you. It is not great...it is better if you don't use it, but coffee and soda are not great for you either. Yes, I am comparing nicotine addiction to coffee. Caffeine and nicotine are actually very similar drugs. And nicotine is about as bad for you as caffeine. However, smoking, as we all know is horrible! the combustion by-products, tar, chemical additives (as well as some of the naturally occurring chemicals) are what make smoking such a killer.
Please, support her and help her stay away from cigarettes. Help her. She is pleading for it!
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When I quit smoking, and started vaping full time, he would occasionally want to taste my juices because they smelled good. I actually bought him some 0 nic juice and that lasted a month or two. I don't think he went through more than 30 ml total.
I didn't read this whole thread, so maybe this was brought up, but even if she tries the 0 nicotine juice and it doesn't give her what she is craving, nicotine is not horrible for you. It is not great...it is better if you don't use it, but coffee and soda are not great for you either. Yes, I am comparing nicotine addiction to coffee. Caffeine and nicotine are actually very similar drugs. And nicotine is about as bad for you as caffeine. However, smoking, as we all know is horrible! the combustion by-products, tar, chemical additives (as well as some of the naturally occurring chemicals) are what make smoking such a killer.
Please, support her and help her stay away from cigarettes. Help her. She is pleading for it!
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WOW! This thread is adding an extra page for every page I read. I can't keep up, so I'll just post my thoughts now.
The night before I smoked my first cigarette, I was a non-smoker. EVERY smoker has that ONE moment that changed them from a non-smoker to a smoker. For several weeks in advance, I knew I was going to do it...and finally I did. It wasn't an accident. For this reason, I will (and DO) guide similar non-smokers toward vaping, rather than a pack and a lighter.
Likewise, my roomie had quit smoking a number of times through the years. Last month, after more than 4 years smoke free, he was feeling the urge to smoke again...so I bought him an Eroll kit, made up several flavors of 0 nic ejuice and showed him how to use it all.
THAT was enough! Now he vapes a little bit in the morning with his coffee, and a little bit at night while surfing the net. Without the Eroll, he would be SMOKING again. I can't guarantee he'll stay smoke free, but with a 'self-convincing' vape, he's happy...and so am I.
My suggestion to the OP...WAKE UP!!! (Jeeeezzzz...
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The night before I smoked my first cigarette, I was a non-smoker. EVERY smoker has that ONE moment that changed them from a non-smoker to a smoker. For several weeks in advance, I knew I was going to do it...and finally I did. It wasn't an accident. For this reason, I will (and DO) guide similar non-smokers toward vaping, rather than a pack and a lighter.
Likewise, my roomie had quit smoking a number of times through the years. Last month, after more than 4 years smoke free, he was feeling the urge to smoke again...so I bought him an Eroll kit, made up several flavors of 0 nic ejuice and showed him how to use it all.
THAT was enough! Now he vapes a little bit in the morning with his coffee, and a little bit at night while surfing the net. Without the Eroll, he would be SMOKING again. I can't guarantee he'll stay smoke free, but with a 'self-convincing' vape, he's happy...and so am I.
My suggestion to the OP...WAKE UP!!! (Jeeeezzzz...
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My hubby is an ex smoker and ex alcoholic. He has anxiety issues, but refuses Xanax and junk like that. Last month he freaked out about an annoying neighbor, said he needed a smoke to calm down. I handed him my vape without thinking twice and showed him how to fire the button. I had to refill my tank by the time he was done, and was glad I had my ERoll backup! After that one time, he never picked it up again. It was just that one time. We vape for different reasons. I am hooked on flavors, some only do it in stressful situations. Not many people chain vape for the nicotine only. How many threads on this forum has something to do with juice flavors, or how an atty makes a flavor taste?
My wife quit smoking for just over 2 years. Had some stressful times and picked up the cigarettes again. My brother went threw this as well. Quit for a long time then had a couple hear and there and started up full force again. If your girlfriend is going to have a rebound wouldn't it be better if she picked up a PV instead of a pack of of cigarettes?? 
If youre looking for a low stress workout I cant recommend Tai Chi enough Racehorse.Not only is it calming but it helps with balance, muscle tone and flexibility. Im also willing to bet that if you look around you can find free classes in your area.
Sorry but I do not understand the issue here. My wife is diabetic and a non smoker. After she saw me quit my 25 year smoking habit using ecigs she was interested in trying some of the juices. I made her some desert flavors and she enjoyed them enough to warrant having her own kit. She now uses a PV with 0 nic juice as an appetite suppressant/alternative to snacks. I have quit smoking and my wife has lost 20 pounds thanks to ecigs. If your girlfriend is thinking about smoking again then vaping should be a great alternative which you should encourage. Or dump her so she can find someone a bit more supportive.
This thread is all kinds of fail.
I've been spending too much time in the rebuildable section. Missed all the fun.
I've been spending too much time in the rebuildable section. Missed all the fun.
I think at like page 7 or 8 we began beating the dead horse with the previous dead horse.
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I stopped smoking for three years using traditional NRT. I never really considered myself a non-smoker, just someone who chose not to smoke. Cigarette smoke smelled wonderful.
I started smoking again before anyone in my country really knew about vaping, which was a shame because it would have been wonderful to have an alternative at the time I started smoking again. When I realised how much damage I had again done to my body, fortunately vaping was there because I just didn't have the willpower to go through all that again. I tried again with the NRT, but hardly lasted one day.
One month into vaping however, I realised that I now considered myself a non-smoker. Cigarette smoke smelled awful, and I never want to do that again. Vaping is about the best thing to happen for smokers.
I'm not sure I explained that very well, but I was a smoker who chose not to smoke for three years, but I considered myself a non-smoker after vaping for only one month. As long as I can buy PG and VG, I know I'll never need to smoke again.
Your GF should try 0 nic, and if that does there trick there would be no need to use nicotine. Most people don't get the same kind of hit out of nicotine vaping as they go from smoking tobacco, so there's probably no need to go there. I'm betting that she may vape 0 nic while she needs to, and then tapers off, it's not chemically addictive after all.
That's because it take an awfully big hole to bury a dead horse.
We want to hear how his GF likes her new PV.
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