Find the right mod or just buy new charger and bats? help

[shangula]

To make a long story short, I vaped on and off since 2012, but have been analog free for 7 months. I've been using an IPV mini 2 and Subtank Mini since March, but just a few days ago received a Billow V2 and built successfully on it first try! (wasn't my first rebuilding attempt, used rda a little bit before)....

The IPV Mini 2 seems to not be the most battery efficient mod, I'm swapping my battery out 3 times a day with the Subtank at 25-28 Watts, and swapping out 3 times a day and topping up via wallwart/USB when I use the Billow V2 (I hit it with 40 watts)

So... I'm thinking of getting a new mod, it has to be single external battery preferably. I want single for the size aspect and I'm not really into 'marrying' batteries together in a dual. I had considered the Evic VT but the thought of it being tethered for hours every while charging didn't appeal me. I'm trying to find that 'right' fit with a new mod, single batter, smaller, battery efficient, TC is a bonus,etc...

/or/

Should I just buy a nice Xtar charger that will charge my batteries much quicker, and maybe an extra battery or two (I currently rotate 3 Samsung 25rs) I currently use a Nitecore D2 which is fine but so slow. Then maybe I could buy a different color case or something for the IPV mini 2 to spice things up a bit. keep it fresh.


your thoughts?

 

[93gc40]

IMO, your battery usage sound OK. Considering the wattage you are running.

Sure there plenty of more efficient mods. IPV Not being one of them. FWIW, faster charging also results in faster drainage.

 

[edyle]

To make a long story short, I vaped on and off since 2012, but have been analog free for 7 months. I've been using an IPV mini 2 and Subtank Mini since March, but just a few days ago received a Billow V2 and built successfully on it first try! (wasn't my first rebuilding attempt, used RDA a little bit before)....

The IPV Mini 2 seems to not be the most battery efficient mod, I'm swapping my battery out 3 times a day with the Subtank at 25-28 Watts, and swapping out 3 times a day and topping up via wallwart/USB when I use the Billow V2 (I hit it with 40 watts)

So... I'm thinking of getting a new mod, it has to be single external battery preferably. I want single for the size aspect and I'm not really into 'marrying' batteries together in a dual. I had considered the Evic VT but the thought of it being tethered for hours every while charging didn't appeal me. I'm trying to find that 'right' fit with a new mod, single batter, smaller, battery efficient, TC is a bonus,etc...

/or/

Should I just buy a nice Xtar charger that will charge my batteries much quicker, and maybe an extra battery or two (I currently rotate 3 Samsung 25rs) I currently use a Nitecore D2 which is fine but so slow. Then maybe I could buy a different color case or something for the IPV mini 2 to spice things up a bit. keep it fresh.


your thoughts?

keep acquiring more batteries over time.
I use 10 in rotation, and I usually vape at 10 to 15 watts.

 

[DaveP]

I have a stack of 18650 batts, but I've moved over to single and double mods with built-in batteries and a USB connector. The power capacity of USB charged mods has moved upwards from 20W (iStick 20W) to 100W (there are several available now). These mods can go down to .2 ohms (Innokin Cool Fire IV).

I've moved away from the iSticks except for the iStick 20W. After having OLED display failures in both my iStick 50W's I took the Innokin Cool Fire IV as a warranty switch over and I'm loving it. It does 40W and I'm a 10W vaper, so that's well within the range I vape. I get 12 to 13 hours vaping at 8 to 10 watts and still have 40% battery left.

I really like the convenience of plugging my Cool Fire IV into the USB port on my truck if I'm away from home for extended periods. I no longer have to carry a battery box with charged 18650's when I'm out for a day. I can just plug into the USB port and vape and drive while it charges.

 

[Baditude]

I'm not really a fan mods that utilize a non-replaceable internal battery. For one, they are Li-Po batteries (not safe chemistry, like an IMR is). Therefore, I want to be able to choose the battery I want to use in my mod, not what the manufacturer chooses to use (they don't always know what's best or safer in my experience). I like using mods which use replaceable rechargeable external batteries; therefore when the battery eventually dies, I just replace the battery instead of the entire device.

 

[Stinkytofus]

ipv d2
sigelei 75 tc
sigelei 150 tc
ipv4s
cloudmaker sx
snow wolf 200w limited edition
sx mini m

so many choices

 

[DanJiblets]

I have a stack of 18650 batts, but I've moved over to single and double mods with built-in batteries and a USB connector. The power capacity of USB charged mods has moved upwards from 20W (iStick 20W) to 100W (there are several available now). These mods can go down to .2 ohms (Innokin Cool Fire IV).

I've moved away from the iSticks except for the iStick 20W. After having OLED display failures in both my iStick 50W's I took the Innokin Cool Fire IV as a warranty switch over and I'm loving it. It does 40W and I'm a 10W vaper, so that's well within the range I vape. I get 12 to 13 hours vaping at 8 to 10 watts and still have 40% battery left.

I really like the convenience of plugging my Cool Fire IV into the USB port on my truck if I'm away from home for extended periods. I no longer have to carry a battery box with charged 18650's when I'm out for a day. I can just plug into the USB port and vape and drive while it charges.

My screen just jacked up on my istick 50 after a really really small drop. Nothing 2 Coolfire 4s, and Evic VT, and a shiny new Disruptor won't fix though. I've always preferred internal batteries, I really love the concept of the new Disruptor though. The Coolfire 4 is my favorite mod though honestly for the size, look, and performance. I'll take Innokin over Eleaf in a heartbeat.

 

[Mike 586]

At 30'ish watts on a single 18650 if you vape more than the average guy? There's just no getting around the fact that you're going to have to carry extra batteries to get though the day if you're using only the one device.

There's really no point in looking for another single 18650 mod if you're seeking longer life, you're just not going to find anything efficient enough to change the fact that you have to change batteries a couple of times a day. At best, with something as efficient as an Evolv board and 3000mAh batteries, you might only need one extra battery to make it through the day.

Other than that, your only options are dual 18650, internal batteries or lowering the power your builds require. Cut it down to 15W and you'll get more than double the life. The way batteries drain isn't a linear curve, cut the power draw in half and maybe get 2.5x to 3x the life out of it.

Personally I just carry a plastic case (or two if I'm vaping above 25W) with some extra 18650s, vape the way I want and swap out batteries as necessary.

 

[Mpalacioss_]

A suggestion even though you dont really like the idea of marrying batteries together is to purchase a dual 18650 box mod, with a pair of vtcs or your prefered batts. I recently purchased a sig150 for my father, he loves the battery life on that thing. He doesnt go higher than 20 watts and that thing lasts him forever. I got it specifically because it can handle almost anything if he ever decides he wants to try new things but also the battery life. I am vaping 70-80 watts daily and a pair of vtc4s or vtc5s last me all day. I still carry an extra pair of batteries just incase. I would go with whatever you feel most comfortable with though, because at the end of the day its your vape

 

[MikeyConti]

If you want to stick with a single 18650 device, get more batteries.. Maybe even try some LG HG2's 3000mAh.

 

[caboog78]

Even a mod with a more efficient chip is only going to get you another 5ish percent battery life. I build my Delta 2 RBA at around 1.0-1.2 ohms and set my IPC mini 2 whatever wattage gives me 4.2 volts. I can run all day, or most of it, on one battery that way. I have a Lemo 2 and a Goliath, plus driopers, for sub ohm stuff, but that also means carrying an extra battery or two.

A Sigelei 100 is not *that* much larger than the ipv mini, and would have much better battery life, if you want to sub ohm all day

 

[niczgreat]

I'm not really a fan mods that utilize a non-replaceable internal battery. For one, they are Li-Po batteries (not safe chemistry, like an IMR is). Therefore, I want to be able to choose the battery I want to use in my mod, not what the manufacturer chooses to use (they don't always know what's best or safer in my experience). I like using mods which use replaceable rechargeable external batteries; therefore when the battery eventually dies, I just replace the battery instead of the entire device.

Hey Batitude, Nice to see you up and around.
As usual I partially disagree with you. I like the built in batteries. Usually by the time the batteries wear out the mod should be replaced. I also think that because they are building the APV to match a certain battery they are able to achieve efficiencies that might not be achieved using mixed style batteries. I still have my MVP-2 as a backup unit after many years and it goes 2 1/2 days on a charge.

I will agree that you might be right about Battery Chemistry on the High Wattage Vaping devices. But on the lower wattage devices Non-Removable Bats are great.

 

[Baditude]

As usual I partially disagree with you. I like the built in batteries. Usually by the time the batteries wear out the mod should be replaced. I also think that because they are building the APV to match a certain battery they are able to achieve efficiencies that might not be achieved using mixed style batteries. I still have my MVP-2 as a backup unit after many years and it goes 2 1/2 days on a charge.

I still have my MVP1 for a backup, too. I had to loan it to my sister whose two iStick 30's stopped working within a couple of weeks. Both were under a month old. First one developed a defective circuit board, and she dropped and broke the second one with a 2 foot drop from the couch to the floor.

I will also partially disagree with you. Just because a battery dies of old age should not be the reason the mod should be replaced. My first Provari is over 3 years old and works like new. It's on its third generation of AW IMR batteries.

If I were to buy a regulated box mod, I'd get one which uses replaceable safe chemistry IMR batteries like the Joytech Evic VTC Mini.

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[kkiet]

If you want to stick with a single 18650 device, get more batteries.. Maybe even try some LG HG2's 3000mAh.

These are really good batteries. LG HG2's 3000mAh

 

[TheLordWinter]

These are really good batteries. LG HG2's 3000mAh

Using a pair of these in the rotation for my XCube II. Very good batteries indeed. I have VTC4's and 25R's, as well, but I'm finding that I prefer the HG2's to the others. I get a full day of moderate to heavy vaping on those, whereas I go through both pairs of VTC4's in one day, and the 25R's only last about 2/3 - 3/4 of a day for me. I say moderate to heavy vaper, but in truth, I've no clue what the threshold is, so I'll say I go through about 15ml a day, 1 to 1.5mg nic.

Since I've only had two mods in total since I've been vaping, an iStick 50w which I wouldn't dare consider recommending to someone who already owns an IPV of any kind, and my current XCube 2 takes two 18650's, I'll leave you with wishes of good luck in your search.

 

[Kahina]

If I were to buy a regulated box mod, I'd get one which uses replaceable safe chemistry IMR batteries like the Joytech Evic VTC Mini.

Mine arrived yesterday. The build quality and usability is very good. I'm also liking the LG HG2's 3000mAh batteries.

It makes for a good unit to recommend people.

 

[Racehorse]

I will agree that you might be right about Battery Chemistry on the High Wattage Vaping devices. But on the lower wattage devices Non-Removable Bats are great.

I have a Kindle, an Ipad mini, an eRoll and figured there was no point in keeping a "charging station" going for a vaping device, so I have moved entirely over to internal batts that use micro-cables. No more loose batts sitting in chargers, etc. I like it much better.

 

[CloudOFsmoke]

I would check new batteries to be honest.
I have an IPV Mini 2, and run from 50-70 watts. (50 for my .25ohm dripper and 70 for my .35 ohm TFV4)
I vape anywhere from 5ml to 15ml a day, and still only replace the battery once per day. Batteries can make all the difference. I dont see them reccomended very often, but I swear by my MXJOs.