First e-cig, open to suggestions

[Skincrawler]

I'm still very much a ecig newbie, but I love my 808 its so easy to carry around, easy to vape in public and since I work a very labor intensive job so easy to carry around. Also ended getting the volt with a pcc now I always have them charging on rotation
They can run out of power quick but great starter ecig till I can find something for a at home vapor

 

[yaksha]

Hey everyone! Just an update. I ended up ordering a Volt for my mom and a KGO 1100 for myself. Im glad to say that they both arrived today! I want to thank you all for the help and advice you have given me.

On a different note, since opening them ive just been charging them (8 hours for first KGO charge :/ ) but i think i must be doing something wrong. Admittedly ive only fiddled with them both briefly but i think maybe the pre-filled cartridges for the kgo arent good. I say this because after the first KGO battery charged i gave it a try. I was very disappointed to find that with a slow 5-6 second draw i was getting some taste but very little throat hit and very little vapor (even when not inhaling). Before anyone asks i did put one of the pre-filled carts on before trying. Needless to say i was hoping something was wrong and this was not an actual vaping experience. I gave it about 20 mins of vaping with no real improvement. But then i tried the volt and i was amazed, very realistic throat hit and while i dont like menthol it did taste like a menthol cig with plenty of vapor right off the bat. Im sure this means that SOMETHING is wrong with the kgo or what i have done.

I know it is fully charged and i used one of the pre-filled carts (of unlabeled flavor).
Im wondering if anyone else that has experience with KGO's (from breezesmokes) has any experience with their carts. I have seen a few videos of people dripping and it seems the norm is to go right to the brin of the cart but when i look in the prefilled it seems the cloth is just barely wet. Could it be the pre-filled are just junk?

Im hoping thats the case but i may have to wait to check, the one package that has yet to arrive is a couple bottle of juice and a LR atomizer (i have BOGE carts). Maybe if i just do my own carts it will be solved. I also noticed its harder to "pull" from the KGO than the volt (harder than an analog) so maybe im making a noob mistake but it doesnt seem to complicated.

So any noob advice would be of help such as, you ..... take off the end cap first (of course i took the cap off but i could be making some other stupid mistake)



Another thing is the PCC for the volt, i opted for the mega-pcc from smokeless image and it seemed like a no brainer (can charge 2 batts at once and holds cartos) but after a little looking around it seems i may have made a mistake. There are many reports that it is crappy tech and cant even fully charge a 78mm ONCE on a full charge, let alone 2. Does anyone have experience with it and if it is crap can anyone help me find a PCC that will work with the 78's that is better, this is one of the more important factors for my mom.


Thanks again everyone!



EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to mention the KGO came with a european wall adapter :/ i checked again and there was no option to choose US or euro when buying. I thought maybe BREEZESMOKES must have been a UK provider but i looked and the only ship to the US so im puzzled. its not a real biggy i have an adapter just thought it was strange. Does charging from USB from computer take longer? im guessing so because of the difference in voltage, maybe thats my problem.

 

[MiXoLoGiSt]

Good choices! Im sure you will both like them. Congrats on deciding to better your health with e cigs.

 

[washvap]

Hey everyone! Just an update. I ended up ordering a Volt for my mom and a KGO 1100 for myself. Im glad to say that they both arrived today! I want to thank you all for the help and advice you have given me.

On a different note, since opening them ive just been charging them (8 hours for first KGO charge :/ ) but i think i must be doing something wrong. Admittedly ive only fiddled with them both briefly but i think maybe the pre-filled cartridges for the kgo arent good. I say this because after the first KGO battery charged i gave it a try. I was very disappointed to find that with a slow 5-6 second draw i was getting some taste but very little throat hit and very little vapor (even when not inhaling). Before anyone asks i did put one of the pre-filled carts on before trying. Needless to say i was hoping something was wrong and this was not an actual vaping experience. I gave it about 20 mins of vaping with no real improvement. But then i tried the volt and i was amazed, very realistic throat hit and while i dont like menthol it did taste like a menthol cig with plenty of vapor right off the bat. Im sure this means that SOMETHING is wrong with the kgo or what i have done.

I know it is fully charged and i used one of the pre-filled carts (of unlabeled flavor).
Im wondering if anyone else that has experience with KGO's (from breezesmokes) has any experience with their carts. I have seen a few videos of people dripping and it seems the norm is to go right to the brin of the cart but when i look in the prefilled it seems the cloth is just barely wet. Could it be the pre-filled are just junk?

Im hoping thats the case but i may have to wait to check, the one package that has yet to arrive is a couple bottle of juice and a LR atomizer (i have BOGE carts). Maybe if i just do my own carts it will be solved. I also noticed its harder to "pull" from the KGO than the volt (harder than an analog) so maybe im making a noob mistake but it doesnt seem to complicated.

So any noob advice would be of help such as, you ..... take off the end cap first (of course i took the cap off but i could be making some other stupid mistake)



Another thing is the PCC for the volt, i opted for the mega-pcc from smokeless image and it seemed like a no brainer (can charge 2 batts at once and holds cartos) but after a little looking around it seems i may have made a mistake. There are many reports that it is crappy tech and cant even fully charge a 78mm ONCE on a full charge, let alone 2. Does anyone have experience with it and if it is crap can anyone help me find a PCC that will work with the 78's that is better, this is one of the more important factors for my mom.


Thanks again everyone!



EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to mention the KGO came with a european wall adapter :/ i checked again and there was no option to choose US or euro when buying. I thought maybe BREEZESMOKES must have been a UK provider but i looked and the only ship to the US so im puzzled. its not a real biggy i have an adapter just thought it was strange. Does charging from USB from computer take longer? im guessing so because of the difference in voltage, maybe thats my problem.

Congrats on getting your kits. Glad you like the VOLT. As with your KGO kit, you aren't doing anything wrong with the carts. As they are considered "old technology" and don't perform to the standards that most people expect to get from an e-cig. Forgot to mention to you that you should get some cartomizers but the good thing is that you got yourself a LR atomizer.

Which is going to give you a WAY better experience. Prime it with about 5 drops and let it site for 5 minutes before taking your first draw. Then add a couple more. Every 8 hits (I'm assuming it's a 510) than add a few more drops. If you want a solid place to get some BOGE LR 2.0 OR Resurrector (1.7 ohm single coiled Smoketech) cartomizers than here's a site for you:

Crystal Clear Vaping

$20 for 15 of them with free shipping.

As for your wall adapter. I'm not to sure but you might want to contact breezesmokes about that. I put a link for Hoosierecigsupply but I guess you missed that. Anyways, let breezesmokes know about your problem and see if they can fix that for you. If not, than get your wall adapter from the vendor that I mentioned. He has AWESOME customer service:

Hoosier E Cig Supply

He also has a number if you need to call and ask questions with him directly.


As for a good charger for your Volt:

Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Volt - 65mm/78mm Battery Charging Case - Accessories

Hope that helps.

 

[Resawman]

Hi there!!!
You cant go wrong with a ego or ego-t... Good luck

 

[tyefighter]

i have never used carts but i would imagine they need to be more than just barely wet... once you get your boge through you should see a huge improvement they are great ...good luck

 

[yaksha]

Hey guys, again i want to thank you all, you have been a lot of help in what has become a big change for me and my mom. This is just an update but also a request for some minor information. So far i love the KGO i have. I have been using it everyday and have not smoked an "analog" since it arrived. A few times (usually late at night or when im out drinking) ive craved an analog but have found the KGO sufficient. My mom has used the volt some but i suspect she is also smoking analogs as well. The good news is that i know that even though she is smoking analogs it is less than normal so she is at least using the volt.

But i do have a few questions for the experienced.

1) My moms first reaction to the volt was that it was strong. I got her 2 flavors when i ordered, the menthol and ice menthol. She normally smokes marlboro 100's menthol so i thought these would be a good jump but i may have gone to high on the nicotine content. I chose 12mg thinking that although she smokes ultra lights and the more nicotine the better because her cravings will be lower, but i didnt think about the hit. Im guessing she thinks it hits harder because 12mg is probably more than an ultra light generally contains. Does anyone have any experience with the volt flavors/strengths and know a close comparison to a marlboro 100 menthol? what mg of nicotine is comparable to a 100 ultra light analog?

2) I have so far loved my KGO but im a noob in the world of e-cigs. Initially i ordered the KGO starter pack, some different juices, and a pack of BOGE's cartomizers, some drip tips, and 1 LR atomizer. I quickly realized the BOGE's are far better than the carts/atomizers the KGO came with. I can fill one up and have it last hours as apposed to a much shorter time with the carts or dripping. But ive heard the LR atomizers are a good experience so i wanted to try it. My problem is the LR atomizer i got came with a hard top. What i mean is the tip (the part with the small hole you are meant to smoke through) is made of plastic and very much attached to the atomizer unlike the rubber 'condoms' with the BOGE's. I dont understand how this works, the tip is not removable so i cant drip into it and there is no way to attach a cart, so how am i supposed to use it. Should i just order LR cartomizers because i have come to love cartomizers and what ohm cartomizers/atomizers should i get for a KGO 1100?

3) This is a quick question (almost a poll) on how you fill cartomizers. So far ive seen the condom method where you fill the condom and slowly push the cartomizer down so it soaks it up, the drip method where you slowly saturate the poly-fiber by dripping on it from the top and turning, and using a syringe. I would prefer not having to use a syringe and the condom method seems to leave residue on the outside of the cartomizer that is submerged. Other than these methods ive found that the best is holding the tip of the juice bottle directly against the bottom of the atomizer and slowly inject juice to soak the ploy-fiber. This seems to work but i think il have to clean cartomizers more often than if i dripped from the top. Does anyone have any other methods that might be of help?


EDIT: for any other new members:

I have found the volt a great intro for techno-newbies into the e-cig world. It has a perfect amount of vapor and throat hit to simulate a real cig. I also love the KGO 1100. The battery lasts all day (near constant vaping) and it has even better vapor. They are both worth a try depending on what you are looking for.

 

[wizard10000]

...if you mention that in the new person's section, you will get about 6 people jump on you and say you are nuts.

If you mention *any* PV in the new person's section you'll get about six people saying you're nuts

Since OP's got an engineering background I figured I'd explain *why* things work so he can make informed decisions

Caution: Math follows - proceed at your own risk.



It's all about watts. If we know that W=V²/R we can figure out a bunch of this stuff on our own. Let's start out with a standard 3.2v 510-compatible e-cig and a standard 2.5 ohm atomizer.

(3.2*3.2)/2.5= about 4.1 watts. A little wimpy for most but fine for some.

Same carto on a 3.7v Volt battery -

(3.7*3.7)/2.5= about 5.5 watts. Warmer vape, more vapor. This is one reason why a Volt vapes better than a 510.

Okay, this is as good as it gets on skinny batteries as they don't have the reserve capacity to drive low resistance (LR) atomizers - you need something that'll support higher current drain. Let's move up to an 3.4v eGo with a Boge 2.0 ohm cartomizer - a favorite of many here:

(3.4*3.4)/2= about 5.8 watts.

Drop the resistance down to 1.6 ohms and you get

(3.4*3.4)/1.6= about 7.2 watts - this is getting better all the time

My current setup is a 3.8v KGO battery driving a 1.6 ohm EMDCC (eGO Megal Dual Coil Cartomizer) -

(3.8*3.8)/1.6= about 9 watts and a pretty nice vape. Good flavor and good vapor production.

I have a friend using 3 ohm cartos on a 6v mod; 12 watts and I think he's insane, but there are people out there vaping off car batteries I think

There are points of diminishing return, though. Too much voltage across a LR atomizer will pop the atomizer, the increased current drain of LR attys affects battery life, and if the atty runs too hot you can burn juice. Too little resistance against a skinny battery and you damage the battery because it can't stand up to the current drain.

My own sweet spot is around 9 watts or maybe a little better, which is why the KGO/1.6 ohm works for me. The same carto on a 3.4v eGo battery is just *almost* where I wanna be.

So - in a perfect world you want high voltage *or* low resistance and enough battery capacity to support the current drain.

Anyway, that's why things work. There are a few more variables but once you find your sweet spot you should be able to reproduce it at just about any voltage.

Sorry for being long and technical. Hope it helps -