First few days of vaping and having issues

[juju8212]

Hi Everyone,

I used my smoketip ALOT while I was on vacation in a no smoking hotel. I have a couple things that are worrying me about it though. The first thing is the sore throat, Its awful!!! I mean I feel like I have streph times 10! My question is do I keep vaping while im having all this pain (like will my body get used to it and it will go away) or do I stop vaping while this is going on. I haven't vaped in a day bc of the pain, but I have to wonder if this is something I should just go through and get it over with because if I stop and start will it just happen again?

My second thing is I don't get a nic buzz like I do off analogs and I still crave them. Is this how vaping is or could this be from not getting a strong enough cart? I so want to quit the analogs, even though I LOVE smoking them, ik how awful they are for me.

I also have a dry mouth, but I can deal with this... its just the pain and still wanting the analogs that are concerning me. Is this normal and will these get better? I've heard some mention about VG being better for sore throat issues, but are there any carts for a kr808 that are just VG?

Thanks!

 

[Twinkie]

Sounds to me like you're sensitive to PG and / or you're letting your carts go so dry, you're basically smoking the filler.

If you're experiencing a severe sore throat as a result of vaping, I'd recommend you stop immediately, and evaluate what's going on.

I'm not familiar with the Smoketip, but it looks to me like a 400 series battery with a cartomizer. Without really knowing much about the device, it's hard to give a specific "Try this...", but I can give a general one...

First, are you 100% sure you're not smoking the filler? (Do you stop using the cart when you get a burnt or "off" flavor?)

Next, assuming you can use any old 808 cart, I'd consider getting 100% VG liquid. I pimp Johnson Creek like I work for 'em, but that's got everything to do with how different the Red Oak line is from "typical" flavors that are 100% PG.

Switching to VG should help with the sore throat and dry mouth.

As for the buzz, it looks like Smoketip tops out at 16mg, which isn't very high. By the same token, Red Oak tops at 18mg, and I'm up at quarter after five because I've been screwing around with my V3 all night. (Note to self: get 0-nic and use it after midnight).

In the grand scheme of things, you need to be in the higher 20's / lower 30's to replicate the same buzz you'd get from a full-flavored cigarette. Part of your tradeoff there is going to be harsher vapor. I was apprehensive about going down to 18mg, and it isn't enough to kickstart me in the morning, but it's definitely more than enough for maintenance if you're a regular smoker.

 

[Valsacar]

I had the same problem at first with the cravings, I just upped the nic level and they went away (and as my sense of taste and smell returned... analogs are just nasty).

I haven't had the other problems, but from what I've heard it isn't unheard of, normal suggestion is to drink more water. Upping the nic level might help as well, as it will fight the cravings better and therefore you (might) not vape as much... though that didn't happen for me

Good luck!

 

[Valsacar]

As for the buzz, it looks like Smoketip tops out at 16mg, which isn't very high. By the same token, Red Oak tops at 18mg, and I'm up at quarter after five because I've been screwing around with my V3 all night. (Note to self: get 0-nic and use it after midnight).

Right now I'm at around 12mg, maybe I'll try a higher one... might help me stop burning out atties from near constant vaping

 

[juju8212]

I don't think I've burned any carts to this point. Ive used 4 and I've stopped using all of them when they started getting warmer than usual on the cart end, but they were actually producing ALOT more vapor when they were at this point than when I get a fresh cart and put it on. Since Im so new maybe the "burnt" taste is more suttle than what I am expecting, but none of my carts have tasted burnt so far. I used a few more out of my starter kit but got a mouth full of juice on at least 3 of them, and 2 of them had a gurgling sound so I put those back for later use. Not sure what the gurgling is or why the juice would be leaking on prefilled carts??? The reason I did this is because I saw the quick fill method posted somewhere else on here and decided I would like to try to refil my carts and didnt want to burn up the atty inside. So I don't think thats the problem. I also have been extreemly dry vaping so I've been drinking water and some soda more than ever before. I suppose its possible that I got sick with streph or a sore throat or something along those lines at the exact time I started vaping, but I kinda find that hard to believe.

Has anyone heard of someone having sore throat issues then changing to VG and they went away? Can you refill a PG cart with VG?

Thanks

Oh btw... smoketip is a KR808D

 

[The Big Chief]

Carts arent burnt until they taste burnt. The sore throat is part of the transition, and generally lasts a week(wiening chemicals and kicking out tar). Drink plenty of water, as the e cigs dry ya out a bit. Its part of the PG. The sore throat will go away soon enough, just get plenty of water. If you crave ciggy's, your not getting your nic, so puff more, or up the nic level. The nic buzz is in the past. No carbon monoxide to give that head rush, and no chemical boosters to shoot the nic through your veins. You can still get a slight nic buzz if you chain vape, it just doesnt hit you all at once. E cigs take about 20 seconds to a couple minutes to kick in good. Its more of a small hill, with slow up, slow down, instead of a steep mountain like cigs, with straight up, straight down with the nic. Takes a week or two to get used to, but you'll like the slow down, as you don't nic out quickly. You'll get to where you vape constantly, but only a few puffs, more often throughout the day, instead of 10 puffs, during 5 minute intervals throughout the day. Its a much easier going habit, but still a change, so give it time, and don't stress it. If you need nic, just puff away till satisfied, and don't worry about how much your puffing. If you just cant seem to take breaks at all, then you simply need to step up your nic level.

 

[Para]

Hi Everyone,
My second thing is I don't get a nic buzz like I do off analogs and I still crave them. Is this how vaping is or could this be from not getting a strong enough cart? I so want to quit the analogs, even though I LOVE smoking them, ik how awful they are for me.

I also have a dry mouth, but I can deal with this... its just the pain and still wanting the analogs that are concerning me. Is this normal and will these get better? I've heard some mention about VG being better for sore throat issues, but are there any carts for a kr808 that are just VG?

Thanks!

I went through the same thing concerning "craving" the analog nico hit but it's getting better. Here's what I did. I have a bottle of 36mg Vanilla Bean 100% VG on hand for those times. I vapor up with that juice and the cravings go away. For regular vaping during the day I used 24mg....which is down to 18mg now. My goal is to get to 12mg, but I know I'll probably have to keep the 36mg around.

 

[The Big Chief]

Pg is an anti viral of sorts, so no strep to worry about I don't think. If youve ever quite smoking before, you might remember the sore throat and hacking up the tar. Once you stop inhaling that tar, for even 1 day, your body will start the process of cleaning out...E cigs don't have that tar. They are clean, short of the nic, so it will be like chewing the nic gum. Same side effects of quiting smoking for the first couple weeks. You just so happen to be getting your nic the same way you always have, by inhalation instead of the gum.
Once you start to allow that built up tar to remove itself from your mouth and throat, your getting exposed to fresh air now, that you havent had in years. No more coating protecting you from the elements so to speak. Sooo, once you start to smell things better, and taste things more vividly, you'll know the tar is pretty much gone. Its not a 1 day thing. Just give it time.

 

[The Big Chief]

I went through the same thing concerning "craving" the analog nico hit but it's getting better. Here's what I did. I have a bottle of 36mg Vanilla Bean 100% VG on hand for those times. I vapor up with that juice and the cravings go away. For regular vaping during the day I used 24mg....which is down to 18mg now. My goal is to get to 12mg, but I know I'll probably have to keep the 36mg around.

I second that notion, to the T ! Well said....Dont forget drinking nights..you'll want 36 for that also, since alcohol numbs the throat, so you wont feel that throat hit...just a word to the wise. Youll have to buy your own liquids to refil those cartos to get 24 or 36 mg, which I think you figured out already.

 

[juju8212]

Pg is an anti viral of sorts, so no strep to worry about I don't think. If youve ever quite smoking before, you might remember the sore throat and hacking up the tar. Once you stop inhaling that tar, for even 1 day, your body will start the process of cleaning out...E cigs don't have that tar. They are clean, short of the nic, so it will be like chewing the nic gum. Same side effects of quiting smoking for the first couple weeks. You just so happen to be getting your nic the same way you always have, by inhalation instead of the gum.
Once you start to allow that built up tar to remove itself from your mouth and throat, your getting exposed to fresh air now, that you havent had in years. No more coating protecting you from the elements so to speak. Sooo, once you start to smell things better, and taste things more vividly, you'll know the tar is pretty much gone. Its not a 1 day thing. Just give it time.

I have never even tried to quit smoking, the only times I have gone more than a day without is when I had kidney stones in the hospital and was on so many pain meds I wasn't awake anyhow. As soon as I got out I started right back smoking...

So I take it that those who quit smoking before without an e-cig also go through the sore throat issue as well since you don't have the protective coating?

Can you give me an est. on how long the pain will last?

Thanks

 

[BlueMoods]

Also PG is a humectrant, meaning it attracts mousture, so it will dry you out more than analogs. Drink more fluids, after a while the vape, sip, vape sip is automatic, but at first you should make the effort to drink more water and other clear drinks like tea, light juices etc..

 

[KayleePup]

My sore thoat lasted about 1 week. I was pretty much chain vaping since I didn't seem to be getting the 'buzz' from the nic. I tried 12 mg and 18 mg but was still craving analogs. Finally stopped craving when I got on the 24 mg. I have increased my water intake to at least 48 oz every day, plus my regular coffee and sodas. I do find that soda irritates my thoat more if vaping heavily.

KayleePup

 

[Windpray]

get 24mg, it will help with wanting a regular cigarette, and just keep on keeping on, I never noticed a sore throat but I sure wanted a cig in the morning. I found out I liked cartomizers much better and that helped. the sore throat is the dryness from vapor, however I am not a doctor so if it is really bad you might want to see your doctor or go to a walkin clinic to check it out

 

[Springbird]

Does the sore throat get better when you are not vaping? If the sore throat doesn't get better you should see a doctor. There is no reason that you can't get a sore throat from a bacterial or a viral infection at the same time that you started vaping if you were exposed the the germ right before you started. Strep is a bacteria. It can damage your heart and your kidneys if it is left untreated. Other bacteria can also cause sore throat. Bacterial infections can be treated with antibiotics. Viral upper respiratory infections can't be treated with antibiotics but they usually just run their course without damaging other parts of your body. Your doctor can look at your throat and run some tests to find out what the matter is. Hope that you are better soon.

 

[Twinkie]

I guess I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I never had a continually sore throat with VG.

Unless you have a compelling reason to use PG (flavors you want aren't available, going through attys faster is more than you can / want to spend on maintenance, you're allergic to vegetables, etc.), I genuinely don't understand why people don't use it more frequently.

Obviously, this is going to vary wildly from person to person, so my take isn't the end-all-be-all, but to toss it out there:

Reasons to use PG instead of VG

• You can't tolerate any sweetness in your flavor
• You like the extra "scratchiness" in throat hit
• It wicks better than VG -- so less topping off
• Atomizers / cartomizers last longer, or require less maintenance

Reasons to use VG instead of PG

• More vapor production, typically
• A fuller, more smoke-like hit
• VG doesn't dry out your mouth and throat like PG does
• The cost of atomizers / cartomizers is insubstantial to you

 

[Sandybeach40]

I had a mild sore throat after my 2nd day no analogs and only vaping. It got better in 2 days and now I have no sore throat at all. I'm curently vaping some 24 mg from Backwoods Brew and I'm not feeling the nic as well as I have on 24 mg Dekang. Its good flavor but I'm tempted to have and analog. So I'm chain Vaping now.

 

[FlashbackRosie]

Really good info. I didn't realize the sore throat would go away so I went back to analogs. After reading this I'm going to give vaping another try and see if the sore throat goes away in a week or so

 

[Leppard Lilly]

I had a sore throat and headaches for a few days, then they just went away. Everyone is different, so I would keep an eye on it. Definately drink water, and look into VG if it doesn't cease. IMO I would visit the doctor if it doesn't go away soon.

I ordered some VG carts from V4L, just to see the difference...should be arriving in a couple of days. Curious how my body will react to that.

Stay well and keep us updated.

 

[IndieVisible]

I missed the throat hits and head rush when I first started vaping too. I started with a 808 e-cig too with 8mg nic lol. I went up to 18mg and noticed a little improvement. Recently I got a ego and 24 mg nic and am satisfied. I get the cloud of "smoke", throat hit and even get a slight head rush at times.

Now check this out. Your nic intake is indeed accumulating as you vape and since you will vape more then you smoke because of sheer convinience, your gonna end up on a nic high in no time! It just won't be so instant.

My cravings for analogs went away in a week and turned in to cravings for vaping. I simply can't see myself going back now. Last week before I got my ego my little 808 batt petered out on me and I had to bum a analog. It was just terrible. tasted like crap, and stunk too!

Also another thing I noticed which i like. I could never chain smoke analogs, I would eventually choke or gag or feel sick. I can vape all I want and no probs!

My triggers for a analog have all been replaced now for vaping right down to my first cup of coffee, drinking and after I eat. Those were the times I craved a cig the most. Now I just crave vaping, and I don't smell any more

Hang in there! You may need to upgrade to a better model and up the nic level but the benefits and more importantly the pleasures do out number analog!!!

 

[JTF]

Hi JuJu,

Freeze some bananas..

...then, eat half of one until the throat feels great. Vape. Repeat.

This is what I did in the transition from analogs Big Chief talked about and I had no probs during and afterwards. For sure though, getting on some Vegetable Glycerin (VG) based e-liquid, which is much easier on the throat, and up the water intake, which you'll need to do from here on out as a vapor, as has already been mentioned, will fix you right up.

Take care,