I have a joye 510.. Had it for over a month & it rocks.. Good thoad hit , no cut off, vapor is awesome... I also find the flavor real good.. I have a js too & I find the flavor better but not the thoat hit as much... But I do like them both.. I reach more for my 510 though than my js...
First impression of the 510 and a few questions...
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Can't stand my 510, it's a harsh hitting mess making vapor machine that's about it. The lame battery life, the messy carts that don't last for long at all. Waste of money as far as I am concerned. I use it as a backup that's about it. Once you try a KR808D-1 or a GreenCig you will see why I don't care for the 510 model.
Well so far mine is awesome... I did the ptb cart & it made a big improvement with the cart.. Last alot longer & no more juice left over at bottom of cart.. I was a pack & a half smoker sometimes 2 when having (beer).... It gives me what I need, Thoat hit, no more cravings.. Awesome vapor... I quit without trying to quit... The battery lasts me like 6 hrs or more so far.. Maybe I am not on it as much but I do when I have beer & it seems to be the same with battery... I find the thoat hit just right for me.. Takes my craving away. I still have a carton of reg cigs in freezer & have not even been tempted to get one out for well over a month now...
As long as it works for you then I am happy for you. I smoked about the same as you did when I smoked so I get what you mean. The thing does do it's job I can say that much about it. I think if I had not tried any others I might feel different but the 510 was the 2nd unit I bought and it just never lived up to the expectations. That first hit was rough and even the first week of hits were not pleasant compared to my M401 at the time. Since going the cartomizer route I am really aware of how much I really didn't like it.
In reality I imagine I could have been happy with it if I had been ignorant of other models and the taste differences. Like I said as long as it's keeping you away from tobacco smokes then it's working for you and no reason to change unless you want to try some different models. The one cool thing about the KR808D-1 is that you can use the 901 battery or atomizer with it as well so you have the best of both worlds. I believe there is also an adapter that will allow you to use KR carts with the 510 battery.
In reality I imagine I could have been happy with it if I had been ignorant of other models and the taste differences. Like I said as long as it's keeping you away from tobacco smokes then it's working for you and no reason to change unless you want to try some different models. The one cool thing about the KR808D-1 is that you can use the 901 battery or atomizer with it as well so you have the best of both worlds. I believe there is also an adapter that will allow you to use KR carts with the 510 battery.
My 510 kicks ace. I love the vapor production on it. I can make a Marlboro red feel like a light. They're are some newer 510's that have that cut off. With the battery I just keep it rotated one in mouth, one in charger. Maybe you got some defective atty's with the new battery.
Snarky, I am curious about the cartimizers. Do you refill yours or just throw it out? roughly how many do you use a month? thanks
Cartomizers interest me as well...but I need a big battery mod before I buy another e-cig.
I'm also interested in the costs and reliability of these things (they do seem to be a bit more user friendly/less hassle from what I hear).
(I still love my 510 Titan though, this thing got me off smokes).
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I'm also interested in the costs and reliability of these things (they do seem to be a bit more user friendly/less hassle from what I hear).
(I still love my 510 Titan though, this thing got me off smokes).
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yea a cut 7 second cutoff on a manual would be kinda counter productive.
i think its a short because ive stuck metal in my atty( dont ask
) with the button on. and when you ground it out.... it auto cuts off and you get a few blinks... so it might be grounding out in the battery.
KR808D-1 cartomizer adapters for your 510 batteries will be available in about 10 days. They will be an excellent mechanism for the 510 lovers to experiement with the 808 and GreenCig cartomizers to see if they like them.
Well, its been another day or two since I posted this. Just tonight my atty is finally starting to work a 'little' better. The battery needs to be charged up pretty good for it to work well. I am hoping in the next few days this thing will be broken in. Seems kinda silly to me that it takes it a week or so to finally start working the way it should, but better late than never. I will keep my fingers crossed! Hopefully I will have something good to report in a few days.
One cool note it that my DSE901 carts do fit the Joye 510, in case anyone had any doubts. They are snug, but they work just fine.
I will say though, this 510 definitely has the worst battery life out of the 901 and 401. I can maybe get an hour and a half to two hours of good vaping before it starts blinking and will vape no longer. I have been waiting for my guy to get in the PCC. It seems like a definite 'need' if you get a 510. I am waiting anxiously and will be the first to buy when his shipment gets in. I may even try an auto battery too. I am one of the rare people (it seems) who likes the auto batteries. The ones on my 901 and 401 worked great. I preferred the auto batteries to the manual on the 901, and people thought I was crazy. I like to vape without using my hands sometimes. Call me old fashioned, but that makes me feel like I am actually smoking... I got this thing because I still like smoking, I just don't want to get cancer and die from it...
But that is my sunday night update. Feel free to leave your thoughts. i am enjoying reading thru this thread and seeing what you guys and gals have to say...
One cool note it that my DSE901 carts do fit the Joye 510, in case anyone had any doubts. They are snug, but they work just fine.
I will say though, this 510 definitely has the worst battery life out of the 901 and 401. I can maybe get an hour and a half to two hours of good vaping before it starts blinking and will vape no longer. I have been waiting for my guy to get in the PCC. It seems like a definite 'need' if you get a 510. I am waiting anxiously and will be the first to buy when his shipment gets in. I may even try an auto battery too. I am one of the rare people (it seems) who likes the auto batteries. The ones on my 901 and 401 worked great. I preferred the auto batteries to the manual on the 901, and people thought I was crazy. I like to vape without using my hands sometimes. Call me old fashioned, but that makes me feel like I am actually smoking... I got this thing because I still like smoking, I just don't want to get cancer and die from it...
But that is my sunday night update. Feel free to leave your thoughts. i am enjoying reading thru this thread and seeing what you guys and gals have to say...
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I also just recently received a 510, after vaping the DSE801 (as a penstyle and with the Prodigy) and KR808D-1 for four months. Like you, I'm not that impressed, although I do think the vapor production is very good for a unit this size. Compared to my other e-cigs, the 510 has no throat hit and reduced flavor. [The battery recharging is just what I expected. I've had no problem with cutoff.]
I find that I'm enjoying it for my 0mg "pacifier" vaping (between nicotine vapes and when I don't even want throat hit). I like the smoothness of the experience [I don't find it "harsh" at all] and, as I said, I'm happy with the vapor production.
It does depend on what you're looking for in an e-cig. All the good ones (e.g., the ones you see raved about here on ECF) have something going for them. I've just stated my impressions (+ and -) of the 501. My favorite so far has been the penstyle: great vapor, throat hit, and flavor. I don't mind the length (155 mm). I do wish the DSE 801 attys were more reliable. Maybe I'll try an M201 at some point.
And when I want to be hit hard and strong, "no ifs, ands, or buts" ... I screw my 801 atty into my Prodigy - never lets me down (as long as the atty is up to speed).
Many vapers, however, want an e-cig much smaller than a penstyle or Prodigy. Hence the popularity of minis and super-minis. But they pay a price, certainly in battery mAh ... except with the KR808D-1 ("Vapor King" is only one of the brand names). It is one of the larger (and heavier) minis, but it delivers well on the big three: vapor, throat hit, flavor. The battery is the same length (in mm and in time between recharges) as the penstyle. And cartomizers are simple and convenient.
Offered for your consideration.
Can't stand my 510, it's a harsh hitting mess making vapor machine that's about it. The lame battery life, the messy carts that don't last for long at all. Waste of money as far as I am concerned.
Now don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel, Ha Ha!
I have both 510 and KR-808 . and my 510 is my main.
I also have a PCC (fixes the battery life), and i dont use carts (drip & tailpipe)
i dont like the plastic taste from the KR carts after 1 or 2 refills.
and the fact that carts dont last like Atty's do. so its a constant investment like analogs... i can run a 510 atty for months and months. carts last a week or 2 at most.
to each his own..
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So its been a few days and things have stalled. Not getting the vapor I expected from the 510 and I think it has something to do with this 7 second cut off on my manual batteries. I am totally let down by this. It sucks, because I just cant seem to find a model I am completely happy with. I did order me a passthru, pcc and 1 auto battery, and those are on their way. I am hoping those things make this a better device, because right now I am not really happy with it... I should get those items on Saturday, and I will update again if you guys care to listen...
Interestingly enough.. a 7 second cut off wouldn't bother me at all. I'd never hit it. It is very, very rare for me to hit the 510 any longer than 4-5 seconds.
I'm really wondering if you didn't get some bad atty's.
I'm really wondering if you didn't get some bad atty's.
Yeah, that could be the issue as well. But both of them bad seems kinda unlikely to me. I have another atty and auto battery coming on Saturday as well as a passthru, and with all the different parts, that should be able to tell me something.
If anyone else has any input, please, post it here, I'd love to hear your thoughts...
They certainly are simple: you just screw a cartomizer onto a charged battery and puff away. They can get expensive: I was going through two or three cartomizers per day when the KR808D-1 was my only device (now it's an alternate). Cartomizers can be refilled (pretty easily, by dripping through the hole at the battery end) with diminishing returns, i.e., after two to four refills, it starts tasty yucky and performance slacks off.
They deliver pretty well on the big three: vapor, flavor, and throat hit, although I've always detected an undertaste I don't especially like. There is a new longer manual battery available (which ups the mAh from 280 to 380: slightly more than the much more expensive VP1 and Vapre-51). BTW, KR808D-1 batts work with DSE901 attys.
Personally, I'm much happier with my penstyle. It delivers great on the big three. [And whenever I want those doubled, I connect my 801 atty to my Prodigy.]
The most intriguing new battery mods I've seen are the Bartleby (reviewed here by MoobyGhost) and the Chuck: impressive performance at relatively low prices. [The Ultrafire brand of the 18650 battery used in the Chuck in 3.7V mode is a whopping 3000 mAh.]
kalojado, I'm curious why you are investing more money in a device you don't like. There are so many different models out there. The 510 just happens to be the most popular one (among ECF members, not in the outside world) at the moment. [The most popular model outside of ECF is the RN4081 (i.e., Smoking Everywhere Gold or an Njoy Npro), which many ECFers also like. It can be purchased less expensively from Heaven Gifts.]
And even popularity within ECF is misleading. According to the primary devices poll, just under 1/3 of ECF members use the 510. A commanding lead over any other individual model. But another way to look at it is that more than 2/3 (the clear majority) of ECF members do not use the 510.
But popular, shmopular! Get a device that's right for you. And that link in my signature may give you some ideas.
I guess ai just figured I got some bum equipment, and this isnt the norm for the 510, thus why I am trying to figure out the cause of the issue I am having...
Of the seven 510 atomizers that I have unpackaged in my 1.5 months of use, 2 were useless right out of box (one Titan wide-band and one standard Joye). Another 2 were "OK", but their wicking is not ideal... they are easy to flood and easy to starve. That leaves three that are what I consider to be "model 510 atomizers". And of those three.. one is a 1.9 Ohm monster.
That's a pretty bad batting average if you ask me. And if somebody had unluckily gotten those two duds as their first atomizers, I could see how they'd be turned-off by the 510.
That's a pretty bad batting average if you ask me. And if somebody had unluckily gotten those two duds as their first atomizers, I could see how they'd be turned-off by the 510.
Well I have only used a 510 sooooo.
There is a thread on here strictly about atty resistance. Check up on it, the 510 atty is pretty close to 2.5ohms, so a 1.9ohm atty would be off of normal by a little bit. I doubt it would be monstrous though. My 510 also has a cutoff, as mentioned in the user manual. I have only ever hit that a few times since I started vaping. As for plumes of vapor, a friend of mine could get huge amounts of vapor. I never did. I think that is more about technique than anything else. I make it make huge clouds, but it seems wasteful to me. As for battery life, I have retrained myself to vaping similar to smoking. So it is not constantly sporadically vaping, but concentrated vaping for 5 to 10 minutes, then putting it away for an hour or so. That, combined with my PCC, means I have no need to charge for a couple days (max)
So well to each their own, and this is just my experience. I did try some j118b or something that was an auto battery. It was a little trickier and blew up after a couple days so I barely mention it.
There is a thread on here strictly about atty resistance. Check up on it, the 510 atty is pretty close to 2.5ohms, so a 1.9ohm atty would be off of normal by a little bit. I doubt it would be monstrous though. My 510 also has a cutoff, as mentioned in the user manual. I have only ever hit that a few times since I started vaping. As for plumes of vapor, a friend of mine could get huge amounts of vapor. I never did. I think that is more about technique than anything else. I make it make huge clouds, but it seems wasteful to me. As for battery life, I have retrained myself to vaping similar to smoking. So it is not constantly sporadically vaping, but concentrated vaping for 5 to 10 minutes, then putting it away for an hour or so. That, combined with my PCC, means I have no need to charge for a couple days (max)
So well to each their own, and this is just my experience. I did try some j118b or something that was an auto battery. It was a little trickier and blew up after a couple days so I barely mention it.
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