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jaytex1969

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I've not specifically sought out 5 Pawns, but in my quest as a newish vaper to try many different flavors, I did pick up a lot of juice from our classifieds that included two flavors.

They are a year old and darker than the website shows, so not likely the best samples for first impressions. Then again, I paid much less than a buck per ml.

The first one, 64, my first impression was, "who would like this?" Then, strangely, it began growing on me and I have to say my first impression was misleading.

It's a grapefruit liquor, enhanced with lemon zest, cucumber, mint and dill. Not something I'd buy after reading that description. Nevertheless, I'm really starting to dig it.

There are a lot of sweet juices out there. I'm beginning to appreciate more savory creations and tastes that can be enjoyed without always being sweet.

The other flavor, Fifth Rank, I've not yet tried and it is equally odd in description, "A lively fusion that's reminiscent of the lost vintage drink known as the “Lime Rickey,” but with a substituted sweet champagne. The effervescent note of horehound herb is counterbalanced by a sweet cream, vanilla bean, roasted almond, and a twist of lime." (Phil Busardo slammed it and said, "It should remain lost and vintage"...:lol:)

If I enjoy it as much as the first, I may actually have to try a fresh one some day.

I'm more aligned with the tightwad crew here. My go to vapes are Juicemafia and more recently, Nicoticket. Still, it's good to cross the line occasionally, regardless of which philosophy you hold.

Try 'em all and decide from first hand experience instead of regurgitating the same old tired party line responses. Leave that to our inept politicians...


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And you have the right to want, what you want. As, I have the right, to not want it. Not everyone can afford these kind of things on a regular basis. And besides, a lot of this is a mute point. Even if I wanted to spend that kind of money, on that small amount, I can't. I can't handle a juice with more than 20% pg, anyways. At that price, you would think they would have more options.
 

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This idea of elitism is a joke to me, as well. Fanboyism is another thing altogether, mind you.

I'm poor. Not poor as dirt, but I don't earn much more than what I need to survive. I can afford few luxuries, but those I do allow for, I treasure. I have a beautiful mech, a couple of older high end atties, and I spring for a bottle of Castle Long bi-weekly.

These things are important to me. My last mech lasted me two years, I fully expect two or more from my current one. I beat the crap out of these things because I can't afford a collection.

I threw more money into the gutter in my first six months vaping thanks to an endless stream of abysmal QA from "CE" product. I had a box of juice left to rot because they were disgusting to me after more than a handful of draws.

Castle Long doesn't get old. My Immortalizer does it proper justice. Twice a day as a legitimate, wonderful bookend to the daily struggle.

Play the elitist card all you want, but I begrudge no one for their choices and certainly don't assume anyone is disingenuous about the creature comforts they indulge in.

[EDIT] The point is MOOT, not mute. Sorry, major pet peeve.
 

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[EDIT] The point is MOOT, not mute. Sorry, major pet peeve
Understandable. I hate my auto correct. My punctuation is probably atrocious, though.

My main problem is that, some people think, a high price tag makes it a superior product. At least, that's how it comes across, sometimes. That's not always the case. Whether it's high end or low, every major vendor has to have good products, in order to survive. And there are many people who can't stand 5P. Like it's been said, here on these forums, taste is subjective.
 
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I recently finished my first ever bottle from 5 Pawns. It was gambit, and I really enjoyed it. A friend raves about it all the time to me, so I finally broke down and bought some. It was really good, hit all the right spots for me, but I'm not sure I could vape it all day. I used it in a dripper almost exclusively, as a treat, and it was good that way. I'll probably order more soon, but I'm not losing sleep over being out of it. Having picked up a Goliath RTA recently as well, I'm looking for cheap juices that I like so I can keep that thirsty beast full
 

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I recently finished my first ever bottle from 5 Pawns. It was gambit, and I really enjoyed it. A friend raves about it all the time to me, so I finally broke down and bought some. It was really good, hit all the right spots for me, but I'm not sure I could vape it all day. I used it in a dripper almost exclusively, as a treat, and it was good that way. I'll probably order more soon, but I'm not losing sleep over being out of it. Having picked up a Goliath RTA recently as well, I'm looking for cheap juices that I like so I can keep that thirsty beast full
I hear ya. I just bought a Cthulhu and a Heracles. I need tanks that can handle the high VG.
 
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Durable goods (hardware) are much different than consumables (e-liquid).

A one time investment (or investments) versus blowing through $15 of e-liquid in a day.

Big difference.

Ok consumables. By your logic, Coke and Pepsi should be avoided because they are way over priced and Wal-Mart makes a cola that is significantly cheaper. Nevermind that it doesn't taste as good to me, I should be buying the cheaper soda. The same could be said about many other consumables. Why buy premium gas? Why buy craft beer? Why buy clothes at the mall instead of Wal-Mart? Why buy bottled water when I pay less to get it out of my faucet?

Whether it's a one time purchase of a new Mercedes or buying nicer food, drink, or clothes, people want the best a product line has to offer. If they can afford it, and they like it better, more power to them. I have personally been given a second chance on life, and I am not going to spend the extra days I have been given nickel and dimeing every purchase I make. I would rather enjoy life while I can, and enjoy the finer things in life when I can.
 

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I never said that those who can afford it, shouldn't buy it. There is nothing wrong with that. I only stated my feelings on the subject. Based on what it cost to make juice, IMO $22 a bottle is still over priced, and a little pretentious. As for the other stuff, I don't go to a bar every day. I don't eat out every day. I take public transportation. I do however, vape every day.

There are many popular vendors that sell in the low $20 range. Based on what it costs to make juice, MBV's juice is over priced.
 

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There are logical arguments against every one of your examples, bones but tje fanboy rhetoric in this thread is tiresome.

Let's just agree to disagree and be done, okay?

Thanks.
It's all good Bro. Every product has fanboys. I am not a 5P fanboy, I was just replying to your statement. I do enjoy a few bottles of their juice a year though.
Cheers. :thumb:
 

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I recently bought some 5P Castle Long Mixology Edition because the Brick and Mortar shop was out of what I originally wanted. As someone said earlier, I was hoping I wouldn't like it because it's expensive but I do like it. With that said, I will buy it occasionally but not regularly. If you're craving that taste without the price tag, Steam Co. Gentleman's Reserve is very, very similar to Castle Long.
 

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Because I believe the elitist mentality and artificial scarcity tactic to screw customers with unnecessarily over-priced products is unconscionable. Sure, it's an effective marketing strategy but that doesn't make it right or make the product any better than one that's half the price.

Fanboys will always defend the ridiculously over-priced items they buy and one of (if not the primary) reasons, in my opinion, is they are ashamed to say they're spending stupid amounts of money based on hype and artificial status for an elitist product that's really no different than non-elitist brands.

It's the Apple effect, if you will. PCs, laptops convertible slates, and tablets with much more functionality than the sleek new iProduct are available for much less money than Apple gadgets (and always have been) but legions of iSheep line up to buy the next new iThing when there's very little difference between last year's new iThing. I work with several people that have never worn a wristwatch in their lives but now they're sportin' the iWatch or whatever it's called and most of them don't have a clue how to fully utilize it and those that do, don't.

But they're all cool 'cause they spent $400+ on a rubber strap with a tiny screen and cumbersome interface that doesn't enhance their lives in any way.

So to summarize, my disdain is not so much for the duped buyers but for the company that dupes them. The two just usually go hand-in-hand.

And for what it's worth, every opinion can be perceived to be judgmental by those with differing opinions, especially when the "judgmental" opinion hits a little too close to home. Kind of a "truth hurts" concept, I guess.

The OP asked "is this liquid good" and I answered, based on my opinion; it may very well be but it's ridiculously over-priced and one can purchase any number of other brands of high-quality liquid for much less.

I take it you are more of an Acer PC, Mount Baker, iStick kind of vaper?

You don't have to think of yourself as an Elitist if you use a Mac or vape 5 Pawns on a Provari.

people will always hate on Industry leaders ... even go as far as thinking they duped all their customers to get to the top.


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Five Pawns is either you like it or you hate it. There seems to be a special type of people who follow this brand. That's the beauty of vaping. It's your own choice of what you want to vape whether it's expensive or not, and there's something for everyone out there. I just had a bottle of This years Castle Long Reserve. Personally by the description I thought I would go Yuk when I tried it. It wasn't that bad though. Not my cup of tea and wouldn't be an ADV for me. So I'm giving the rest to a friend who makes his own juice and he is very picky and maybe even what I would call a sophisticated vapor. I'll bet he likes it!
 
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I think my taste buds are shot and complex juices like these go right past my tongue and out into the air. I find I do better with simple combos and one note juices, what I can taste is quality ingredients and as much as I miss all of subtle nuances of 5 pawns there is no denying they use good nicotine and good pg/vg bases. So God bless them for being able to charge what they do, it is the American way.

As a side note I am at the 6 month mark of being smoke free and hoped my taste buds would mature and be able to appreciate complex mixes like these, but it looks like it won't be happening any time soon.
 
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