Flash 8-Juice DIY Juice Calculator

[SeanFromIthaca]

just whipped this up in Flash because I'm getting some 100mg juice in a few days and I want to be able to mix all kinds of juices together and still know what the mg/ml is:

http://jackulator.com/flash/SeanFromIthaca's8-JuiceCalculator.swf

just enter the juice amount in drops and the mg/ml of each juice and hit the 'CALCULATE' button

you can do up to 8 juices at once

enjoy!

 

[mistinthewoods]

I've been using this one since last March.
eJuice Recipe Calculator

 

[breaktru]

I use this one: eJuice Me Up - e-Juice e-Liquid Recipe Calculator

 

[Switched]

just whipped this up in Flash because I'm getting some 100mg juice in a few days and I want to be able to mix all kinds of juices together and still know what the mg/ml is:

http://jackulator.com/flash/SeanFromIthaca's8-JuiceCalculator.swf

just enter the juice amount in drops and the mg/ml of each juice and hit the 'CALCULATE' button

you can do up to 8 juices at once

enjoy!

I would suggest you take a look at what is available already before you start playing around with 100mg. Your calc is scary and not one I would recommend to anyone. Sorry

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

how is my calculator scary exactly? it's just math man. 10 drops of something that is 18mg/ml of nicotine has 9mg of nicotine in it because it's half of a milliliter... it's that simple... and if you take that 10 drops and mix it with 10 drops of 0mg glycerin, you now have 20 drops of 9mg/ml juice... all this calculator does is add up all those amounts so you don't have to do it yourself

I get REALLY sick of people who don't know what they're talking about fear-mongering... and people on forums who don't really think before they speak and just react... one of the worst aspects of a forum really


lastly, I've been 'playing around' with 100mg juice the whole time I've been vaping... which as you can tell from my sig pic is only about two months... but I'm still alive and kickin... nevertheless it ain't college physics or calculus or anything -- which, being a chemistry major I took on my way to a 3.7GPA... not bragging, just saying -- I'm not exactly playing around

EDIT: did you even bother testing it out?? would you give a thumbs up/down to a movie before you saw it?

but now because of the fake controversy you've created this thing that I was happy to make and post for people to use now has your taint all over it... thanks pal

 

[Switched]

Woa! Back your horse up. Yes I have tried your calc. That you understand it is a good thing but I do not like how it calculates. Many that come here have yet to play at DIY, and I simply cannot recommend the use. The first link provides an almost fool proof calc.

U R Welcome

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

well if you don't like how 'it' calculates, take that up with the lord I guess... it's just math

 

[breaktru]

Sean, Your calculator seems accurate and different in that it was done in Flash. Great work and it's just a matter of people getting use to using it. My calculator took a month to catch on. I've gotten tons of emails and PM's after a month on how much people liked it. I got the same reviews on the first post on how the others were better. Stick in there guy. It'll catch on eventually. Good luck and happy vaping.

 

[Uncle Screwtape]

The flaw I see is that all 'drops' are not alike. A drop of VG out of a pipette is much larger than a drop of flavoring out of a syringe. I'd rather see it in all in ml. I do like the flash thing and would use it if it were all ml based. Nice work, very handy.

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

breaktru thanks so much -- I have had the same reaction to just about anything I've posted at any forum that I was really excited to post -- a political comic I drew for one forum, a flash game on another... I try to be nonchalant about it so that people don't feel the need to squash me because they think I'm thinking, "this is literally the best thing known to man that I've created", but it doesn't work... even though I'm just happy about it and want to share it people still seem to squash... but thank you for your advice/perspective

Uncle Screwtape -- that was my main concern really -- VG is so thick a 'drop' of 100% VG juice is almost like 1.5 (or more?) drops of 100% PG juice

but you're right, rather than add an additional box to fill out for each juice as to the ratio of PG/VG, and then try to find some kind of conversion for the drops PG vs. VG, it's better just to go with milliliters -- a ml of PG is the same as a ml of VG

EDIT: although for people like me who don't have measuring tools for such small amounts, drops work better, so I'd be interested to see what the milliliter difference using the same pipets/droppers/beakers for different ratios of PG/VG ranging in increments of probably 20% from 100% PG to 100% VG -- with probably 5ml of juice one drop at a time hehe... that much liquid would round out any anomalies with the droppers... so if someone could do that, it'd be quite useful to me personally, and perhaps others as well

 

[VAPOINSANO]

hi,
just wanted to say,

thanks to both seafromithaca +switched
(and of course the rest)

1st off merry christmas y'all !

to s.f.i. your contribution(s) are always noted+apprieciated thank-you!!
i really like a guy who says it like it is.

to switched for helping w/ guidance !
you've been here awhile +providing a safe atmosphere and other values.

my wife always says ,
you can say anything to anybody
its HOW you say it !

shes got like 99% success
so i agree

and to add my 2cts!

forums can be a harsh place,when posting.
no 1 ever really knows the temperment of writing !

i truly believe it was a safty vs communicate issue

thanks

happy holidaze

ps deep down we all want to be included somewhere.
myself included ...(sorry me bad)

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

thanks VAPOINSANO -- and a Merry Christmas to you too

yes I am happy to be here and part of this growing community, so naturally I like to use my skills to contribute as a way of thanking people here for making it such a great and welcoming place

I wasn't hurt or angry about what Switched said, I don't doubt that his heart was in the right place, ie keeping people safe

 

[Switched]

A great improvement would be to re-label the entries. Everything is called juice, keep the names for 1 and 2 (for mixing two differing strength of nic liquids) but call the rest what it is: e.g pg, vg, flavour 1 flavour 2 etc...

FWIW the calc in my sig, received similar reviews when it was released. It wasn't everyones cup of tea. It is the only one I use. Why? I designed it around the way "I" work at DIY. It is not for everyone especially the auto calc functions.

Wrt safety this is something we see weekly. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...st-attempt-mixing-am-i-making-too-strong.html Now you can see where I am coming from, I hope.

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

doh! I didn't see that in your sig hehe... but anyway when I read that post you linked my jaw dropped when I saw this:

40 drops 100mg nic juice
20 drops creme de menthe flavoring
15 drops VG

and I said, 'Oh my god...'

I don't know if that person is still around, so I won't say what I'm thinking, but -- wow. If you see a post like that often I can DEFINITELY understand your reaction.

I mean... obviously the ratio of 100mg to the whole mix is nothing short of horrific, but 20 drops of flavoring?? did this guy not understand the concept of the base? the stuff you mix other things into? if he'd gone this way:

40 drops VG
20 drops creme de menthe flavoring
15 drops 100mg nic juice

it still would have been 20mg juice -- and ridiculously minty I would think...

but the real issue here is, anyone who would mix up that first batch -- you gotta wonder whether they know enough to be careful with the 100mg juice and all...

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

this is why we do things like outlaw sharp sticks, or untied shoes, or pork rinds... you get one 'person' (just a nice happy, non-judgmental word) vying for a Darwin award and suddenly the very activity itself is called into question by everyone who doesn't want 'people' to kill themselves on something other people do for fun...

I'm sorry, we can't outlaw bleach just because someone thinks it's good to gargle with it to whiten their teeth

 

[Switched]

doh! I didn't see that in your sig hehe... but anyway when I read that post you linked my jaw dropped when I saw this:

40 drops 100mg nic juice
20 drops creme de menthe flavoring
15 drops VG

and I said, 'Oh my god...'

I don't know if that person is still around, so I won't say what I'm thinking, but -- wow. If you see a post like that often I can DEFINITELY understand your reaction.

I mean... obviously the ratio of 100mg to the whole mix is nothing short of horrific, but 20 drops of flavoring?? did this guy not understand the concept of the base? the stuff you mix other things into? if he'd gone this way:

40 drops VG
20 drops creme de menthe flavoring
15 drops 100mg nic juice

it still would have been 20mg juice -- and ridiculously minty I would think...

but the real issue here is, anyone who would mix up that first batch -- you gotta wonder whether they know enough to be careful with the 100mg juice and all...

No problem Sean. The one that gets me are those who want to play with 100% nic in their kitchen and argue with our guest chemists that show up every now and again. That is really scary.

Many think that by ordering 100mg they are saving money, where the majority of places that sell unfavored liquid there is no difference in pricepoint between 50 and 100mg. 100mg cost twice as much and you still need to cut it, or folks that buy it by the gallon (cheap) for personal use (shakes head)... or yet again folks saying their nic liquid tastes like WD-40 and someone recommends adding more flavouring??? perhaps a different vendor is in order

Lot's of entertainment here unfortunately, bring the popcorn.

 

[Liv2Ski]

Sean - would it be possible to add a drops per ml box? You could default to the 20/ml but for people that know drop size per ml it would be helpful. I know you have asked for various drops sizes per ratio of mixes but there are so many variables you will get answers all over the place. For me my college chemistry lab grade pipette w/pump puts out exactly 37 drops/ml of 80pg/20vg while the plastic disposal pipettes I use come in at 28 drops/ml. Anyway thanks for the post and the resouce.

 

[breaktru]

Ahhhh. things are back to normal now. I'm glad we are all friends now. No more bickering please. Hey guys. This is what I do, and please don't jump on me for suggesting it.... When using drops instead of ml, I use the standard 20 drops = 1ml if I use both PG (thin based) and VG (thick base) together and to even things out I drip my drops for VG holding the dropper at 90 degrees (vertically straight up) and my dropper 45 or less degrees for PG until the drops look like the size of the VG drops (volume). I tested by dropping into a graduated cylinder and the measurements where pretty good in accuracy. I've done this hundreds of times so my eye for drop size has been sharpened.
This can not be done with pipettes, sorry Liv2ski.. by the way Mike, hows the snow up north? we got 30" in the city. I'm still digging out. Missed 2 days of work.

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

...The one that gets me are those who want to play with 100% nic in their kitchen and argue with our guest chemists that show up every now and again. That is really scary.....

sad as it is, if that's the case it's only a matter of time before something really bad happens.. some people need a helmet

Sean - would it be possible to add a drops per ml box? You could default to the 20/ml but for people that know drop size per ml it would be helpful. I know you have asked for various drops sizes per ratio of mixes but there are so many variables you will get answers all over the place. For me my college chemistry lab grade pipette w/pump puts out exactly 37 drops/ml of 80pg/20vg while the plastic disposal pipettes I use come in at 28 drops/ml. Anyway thanks for the post and the resouce.

I upgraded the calculator to include the ability to change the drops/ml, but it won't be as useful as it could be until I get a separate drops/ml for each juice implemented -- which I would do if enough people used this thing -- personally, I'll probably use 26 or 28 for my standard -- ballpark is good enough for me

anywho, here it is: http://www.jackulator.com/flash/SeanFromIthaca's8-JuiceCalculator2.0.swf

EDIT: btw, you may want to test it out first -- all I did was replace the hard-coded '20' with the number the user sets, and I ran some scenarios to make sure it was working, but I didn't test it out as much as I did the initial version -- probably works fine, but just saying

 

[chainvapor]

No problem Sean. The one that gets me are those who want to play with 100% nic in their kitchen and argue with our guest chemists that show up every now and again. That is really scary.

Many think that by ordering 100mg they are saving money, where the majority of places that sell unfavored liquid there is no difference in pricepoint between 50 and 100mg. 100mg cost twice as much and you still need to cut it, or folks that buy it by the gallon (cheap) for personal use (shakes head)... or yet again folks saying their nic liquid tastes like WD-40 and someone recommends adding more flavouring??? perhaps a different vendor is in order

Lot's of entertainment here unfortunately, bring the popcorn.

Hey there Switched! I do use 100mg/ml nic juice but it is because it is easier to boost nic content in juices without losing flavor. It is also nice to know if I put 10% 100mg juice in a bottle and fill the rest with flavoring and VG than I have 10mg/ml juice to vape. Same if I use 24% 100mg juice, than I am vaping 24mg/ml. Just easier for me. But I agree that people have to be careful. I have never spilled 1 drop of the stuff (as it is the most expensive part of DIY liquids). I have been DIY on juice for a few months now and I realize the danger but still prefer it at 100mg.

CV