Flat ribbon wire in the mail! (good uses?)

[treehead]

Hey guys I finally gave in to the curiosity of flat ribbon wire, it's so "different" I had to see what the vape was like, since we're all trying to basically increase surface area for our builds, why not go with ribbon kanthal? I'm sure I'll find out soon enough what the pro's and con's are, I was just posting this to see if anyone is a die-hard fan already, or has figured a perfect coil use for it.

From what I understand it's perfect for sweeter and fruity flavors, which I definitely like for a majority of my juices (melons are #1! Kryptonite by cosmic clouds is my current favorite; watermelon pop-rocks), but I don't really know how it behaves yet, although I haven't researched at all.

-Does it get hotter?
-Do you need to watch out for any cross-overs more than normal wire?
-Does it work better when touching? or separated?
-Work better for genesis atomizers, or rda's etc.

I first got the idea because I see alot of genesis users, using it with ss mesh, and I recently got a prometheus, It's been going amazing with cotton, but I also have some mesh in the mail to give that a shot. I have an idea to wrap mesh around my cotton in RDA's to give the juice a "space" to travel and escape through. I've also got 24 gauge coming in, so I'm a noob in that respect as I've used 28ga my entire vaping life.

-Thanks for any and all advice/info guys, build on!

 

[Bimini Twist]

I wasn't interested in ribbon wire once I tried micro coils with cotton. But I bought some when I started seeing people talk about Mundy's Magic coils. I ordered the size he recommends and managed to get it right on my first try. I've only built one coil with it so far, and I've been loving it for a week or so.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...alexander-mundys-magic-twisted-ribbon-69.html

Now that I have some, I might try just a straight wrap. Yea, I would think no overlapping for a regular coil.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

RipTripper on youtube has got a Tinman coil thats ok aswell

 

[PhatRon]

I like doing a spin on Mundy Magic and twisting the wire with some other gauge wires for my RDAs. It provides great flavor IMO and one of the cons is that it does tend to have a lot more spring to it when you are wrapping unless you can hold it with tension on your wrapping instrument and give it a good torch. Other than that I don't find any other real cons for it. I just ordered some 0.8 x 0.1 mm to see if I like it any more than the 0.6 x 0.1 mm ribbon wire I have been using.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

you can adjust the MM id while its in your RBA with a tapered tool aswell, just to mix it up a bit

 

[Myk]

It's pretty much all I use. Micro style (touching) on gennies, micros in drippers. Now that I have 100' of it I should try some twisting.

 

[treehead]

I wasn't interested in ribbon wire once I tried micro coils with cotton. But I bought some when I started seeing people talk about Mundy's Magic coils. I ordered the size he recommends and managed to get it right on my first try. I've only built one coil with it so far, and I've been loving it for a week or so.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...alexander-mundys-magic-twisted-ribbon-69.html

Now that I have some, I might try just a straight wrap. Yea, I would think no overlapping for a regular coil.

Interesting, thanks for the link idea. I'd imagine that would let juice escape alot better! All those gaps combined with surface area too, pretty awesome idea. That's half the reason I ordered it is just to try some some unique coils myself. I've been kinda bored with the usual coils lately, just want some kanthal to play with! (ie last night I made a knuckle coil, wrapped into a micro-coil, it kinda looked like a DNA helix, and vaped surprisingly awesome.) I'd like to try my luck at a ribbon clapton coil.

 

[treehead]

RipTripper on youtube has got a Tinman coil thats ok aswell

Oh yeah he does, that's right. Thank you, that's probably what I was going to try first; a 6-7 wrap on something smaller like 1/16" screwdriver.

 

[treehead]

I like doing a spin on Mundy Magic and twisting the wire with some other gauge wires for my RDAs. It provides great flavor IMO and one of the cons is that it does tend to have a lot more spring to it when you are wrapping unless you can hold it with tension on your wrapping instrument and give it a good torch. Other than that I don't find any other real cons for it. I just ordered some 0.8 x 0.1 mm to see if I like it any more than the 0.6 x 0.1 mm ribbon wire I have been using.

Nice, a tiger coil huh? I can't wait to try throwing a few different types together somehow for those "creative days" . I like the idea of just throwing a few types in and twisting them all together lol. Best of all worlds right?

-I have a coil jig if it's something my rock-climbing grip can't take care of, but I've given myself near-arthritis on one coil before lol, I need to get me a small torch. Then again I have a big'ol propane welding cylinder if need be.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

hey treehead the ribbon touching or not isnt such a big deal with rba use, i've never seen hotspots, they are common when wrapping on mesh, poking the mesh should fix that

the Tinman coil is actually wrapped with the following wrap about 1/4 or half over lapping the last wrap if i remember correctly, its been a while! you cant really seal the gap between the wraps, if anything it would just be a tight overlap where the juice gets forced out from and adding to the flavour like a micro coil

Ribbon coil's normally deform when you torch them or when you fire them up on your mod without torching first unless you have mesh inside
so the thing to do is to wrap the coil on your jig and hold the legs with pliers, you can give the legs and the jig a little tug away from each other to tighten up the coil, using your thumb on the top of the coil to hold the wraps helps, then torch the coil while holding your pliers on the legs and you jig inside the coil, heat & cool a couple more times ...

then while still holding the legs with pliers remove the jig you wrap on and torch again, now it shouldnt deform

but it still has spring so you need to keep hold of the legs, insert your drill bit or jig back in to the coil and place your thumb on the back/top of the coil wraps keeping pressure while you install into rba, tighten screws, then you can let go



i have been able to just wrap the coil take out the jig and torch without deforming but you have to heat it up really slowly flickering the heat across it an building up the heat till it go's red, but the coil normally tightens up a little on the id

 

[treehead]

hey treehead the ribbon touching or not isnt such a big deal with rba use, i've never seen hotspots, they are common when wrapping on mesh, poking the mesh should fix that

the Tinman coil is actually wrapped with the following wrap about 1/4 or half over lapping the last wrap if i remember correctly, its been a while! you cant really seal the gap between the wraps, if anything it would just be a tight overlap where the juice gets forced out from and adding to the flavour like a micro coil

Ribbon coil's normally deform when you torch them or when you fire them up on your mod without torching first unless you have mesh inside
so the thing to do is to wrap the coil on your jig and hold the legs with pliers, you can give the legs and the jig a little tug away from each other to tighten up the coil, using your thumb on the top of the coil to hold the wraps helps, then torch the coil while holding your pliers on the legs and you jig inside the coil, heat & cool a couple more times ...

then while still holding the legs with pliers remove the jig you wrap on and torch again, now it shouldnt deform

but it still has spring so you need to keep hold of the legs, insert your drill bit or jig back in to the coil and place your thumb on the back/top of the coil wraps keeping pressure while you install into rba, tighten screws, then you can let go



i have been able to just wrap the coil take out the jig and torch without deforming but you have to heat it up really slowly flickering the heat across it an building up the heat till it go's red, but the coil normally tightens up a little on the id

Thanks brother that's exactly the info I was looking for, I can tell your experienced with the stuff. I know it doesn't short if it touches itself, I was planning on wrapping it tightly over-themselves like you said about 1/4 maybe even 1/2 over one-another. Actually since you mentioned RIP I checked out some of his vids with ribbon, and his recent one the hurrican is wrapped directly on top of of eachother, so I think it's pretty fool-proof stuff. I think just like normal wire, you were to overlap and touch a few coils away, THEN it would skip a few coils and technically short.

~Oh man I got the prometheus last month and it was definitely tricky poking that ssmesh all night getting those hot-spots out . I've got a method down though that's sorta backwards compared with "by the book" method. I wrap a perfect micro, get two of those burning even, THEN roll up ss mesh (which was really easy to get a "solid core" because of my spliff rolling days ) and twister her through. usually if the mesh is already oxidized I get one nice and even hot spot, that's how I like it, I can't wait to try some spaced 24 gauge and/or ribbon on mesh though.

 

[Jimi D.]

I use ribbon in all my builds. RDA's and tanks. I only use silicia for my wicks. It's a perfect match.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

What ribbon you got coming treehead??

Mundy's Magic Ribbon is good. you will need 0.6mm x 0.07mm ribbon to make it..

i have some 0.8x0.1mm and all this talk of ribbon has made me put some on a 3/4 opencoil wrap at 0.6Ω tastes pretty good
but hasnt quite got the fullness of the braided which im gonna put back on
you should try it if you have any 30 or 32g hanging about @ 0.5Ω its surprisingly good, i think it works like
mundys magic by firing the juice out through the holes/gaps between the braid, like fireworks

 

[Bimini Twist]

hey treehead the ribbon touching or not isnt such a big deal with rba use, i've never seen hotspots, they are common when wrapping on mesh, poking the mesh should fix that

the Tinman coil is actually wrapped with the following wrap about 1/4 or half over lapping the last wrap if i remember correctly, its been a while! you cant really seal the gap between the wraps, if anything it would just be a tight overlap where the juice gets forced out from and adding to the flavour like a micro coil

Ribbon coil's normally deform when you torch them or when you fire them up on your mod without torching first unless you have mesh inside
so the thing to do is to wrap the coil on your jig and hold the legs with pliers, you can give the legs and the jig a little tug away from each other to tighten up the coil, using your thumb on the top of the coil to hold the wraps helps, then torch the coil while holding your pliers on the legs and you jig inside the coil, heat & cool a couple more times ...

then while still holding the legs with pliers remove the jig you wrap on and torch again, now it shouldnt deform

but it still has spring so you need to keep hold of the legs, insert your drill bit or jig back in to the coil and place your thumb on the back/top of the coil wraps keeping pressure while you install into rba, tighten screws, then you can let go



i have been able to just wrap the coil take out the jig and torch without deforming but you have to heat it up really slowly flickering the heat across it an building up the heat till it go's red, but the coil normally tightens up a little on the id

Hmm. I decided to give it a try before reading this post. I got them pretty darn close without any intentional overlapping and I torched without the mandrel in place. I've already forgotten how many wraps & what the resistance is (not near a meter right now).

It vapes very nicely, though I think I'll do another MM next time around.

 

[treehead]

Hmm. I decided to give it a try before reading this post. I got them pretty darn close without any intentional overlapping and I torched without the mandrel in place. I've already forgotten how many wraps & what the resistance is (not near a meter right now).

It vapes very nicely, though I think I'll do another MM next time around.

right on, I already knew they don't short when touching, usually only if two pieces "far away" from one another touch then you have a technical short, but I wasn't sure if ribbon wire had any special needs, in fact they're less prone to shorts because of their shape I've found. Because of their shape though, I wasn't sure if they would short under circumstances wire wouldn't, like if they crossed perpindicular.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

i cant remember if i tried this combo before but i just tried it tonight 2mm voodoo and 5 wraps of ribbon spaced is pretty good

I use ribbon in all my builds. RDA's and tanks. I only use silicia for my wicks. It's a perfect match.