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  1. Scherzhertz

    Scherzhertz Full Member

    Jul 6, 2019
    Any tips for flavor chasing?like coil position , cotton wick , watts/voltage and others.
    For mtl.
     
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  2. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    @Scherzhertz, that's a difficult one to answer. Due to the fact that each and every atomiser likes different builds.

    But one of the main things is reduced chamber size, so that the vapour doesn't expand as much and the flavour gets concentrated.

    Also, airflow hitting the underside of the coil is better than air hitting the side.

    At least that's what I've picked up along the way.
     
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  3. HigherStateD

    HigherStateD Ultra Member

    Mar 11, 2019
    What flavor are you chasing?
    What atomizer/mod?

    Fruits are better at lower temp, creams/custards at higher temps.

    Different coil/wick materials bring out different notes also.
     
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  4. vaper1960

    vaper1960 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Apr 24, 2019
    California, US
    Low wattage, restricted airflow, and "primer puffs" (draw air without firing coil) between vapes. I do MTL and right now (with my limited mod starter kit) doing 70VG/30PG juice on a 0.8 ohm coil at 18 watts and airflow fairly restricted. Primer puff between vapes keeps the coil good and saturated. Higher power and/or more airflow I get less flavor (with my meager setup)
     
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  5. Fredman1

    Fredman1 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 27, 2017
    New Zealand
    There's a few things that plays a part in flavor...for me the most important is airflow.
     
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  6. Scherzhertz

    Scherzhertz Full Member

    Jul 6, 2019
    Convergent rda , it have chamber reducer which is good
     
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  7. madstabber

    madstabber Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Overlooked often the drip tip really matters. Due to the fact your drip tip effects airflow which matters, I like a 510 that isn’t very long. The skinny hole and short, keeping you as close to the coil as possible without burning you. This is just one factor I thought I’d mention. The other posters have mentioned some of the other factors of which there are many.
     
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  8. ShowMeTwice

    ShowMeTwice PlusOnceMore ECF Veteran

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    With MTL a more restricted AF will help. On a Prime RTA for example if I vape it at the 1.6mm AF setting it is very good and flavorful. If I switch it downward to the 1.0mm or 1.2mm the flavor pops noticeably. Also as Madstabber mentioned a DT with a smaller bore will help as in 4mm or smaller. DT's are often overlooked. Also play with your coil height. You may find lower or higher works best for you. I haven't noticed any difference with cotton versus rayon with flavor. I use both and for me each brings excellent flavor. If you haven't tried rayon perhaps give it a shot.
    Cheers
     
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  9. HigherStateD

    HigherStateD Ultra Member

    Mar 11, 2019
    Rayon is GREAT for some flavors, others, I find, not so much. It definitely brings sweeteners to the forefront, which, if the juice is mixed well, is fine. If oversweetened, it can mute.
     
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  10. AngeNZ

    AngeNZ Squonkaholic ECF Veteran

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    Mar 24, 2018
    New Zealand
    Watch YouTube reviews on your RDA - that may help with figuring out the best coil position for flavour

    Here's a couple:



     
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  11. ShowMeTwice

    ShowMeTwice PlusOnceMore ECF Veteran

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    That ^^^^ is the beauty of vaping. Finding what works best for each of us. There are many options for tweaking ones vape with all the gear currently available to us. Awesome!
     
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  12. ShowMeTwice

    ShowMeTwice PlusOnceMore ECF Veteran

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    The Convergent RDA deck design is very similar to the Parvum and Salix RDA's. I have both of those.
    Placing your coil so that the AF is hitting dead center of the coil is what you want (middle). Using the coil rod cutouts on the deck is the optimal height and distance from the AF for your coil (per the design). You could try raising it a little and see how that vapes. There really isn't room to lower it by much but you could try.

    The chamber reducer will also provide more condensed flavor. I have a couple Creek RDA's and use the chamber reducer in one and there is a noticeable difference in flavor. Also try it without. You may like that better.

    What are the specifics of the coil are you using?

    2.5mm ID would be perfect for the Convergent or 2mm ID if you prefer a smaller coil. IMO you really don't want anything bigger in this style/design of RDA (MTL).
     
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  13. vapdivrr

    vapdivrr ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 8, 2012
    sarasota,fl
    As others have mentioned, perhaps chamber size, more restrictive DT and AF compared to more open(but that also depends, because to restrictive with imbalanced wattages can be opposite). Coil height definitely plays a big part , balance of power to a specific coil and knowing what juices work with your power and specific tank, but imo the number one thing is wicking...wicking is key with flavor, as just a few extra strands either way in the coil and in the ledges makes a difference. A slight under stuff or over stuff not only in coil, but at juice holes (juice holes dont really pertain as much in gta style rtas) or on deck in rdas are the key imo
     
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  14. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
    1187 Hundertwasser
    Increase the the percentage of flavoring in your DIY juice.
     
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  15. YorkMan

    YorkMan Super Member

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    Jul 17, 2019
    New Orleans
    Flavor increased for me when I got an ETNA MTL RDA and started winding my own single strand coils.
     
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  16. P3ch3

    P3ch3 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 31, 2019
    as personal taste... Flavor is always pointing to this things:
    Single coil: i rather and have found that single coils setups are amazing for flavor chasing, for example the taste i get from my zeus single and my paraoh mini RTA, arent compared to my duals like zeus X, themis and creed to name a few,

    Coil: several kinda wires provide better taste to some notes, for example i do love ni80, SS and kanthal wire in that specific order, some Alien SS coils are so tasteful, and so are some flat tricore ni80 claptons, and also i did enjoy some puff with plain kanthal as well, maybe you need to try some, to see your top choices!

    Wicks affect, but the Tank itself is the last but not less fact, for example mi themis RTA is my choice for sweet and fruit flavors, deserts are tasteful on Zeus X, fruity frozen and bold specific flavors on zeus single are somthing i love, also lemonade ones on both my single coils,

    So, vaping my friend is a taste thing here, and your personal taste will be the judge for all products related there!

    Regards,
     
  17. tj99959

    tj99959 ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Aug 13, 2011
    utah
    I can't be of much help to ya bud.
    None of the stuff I use is even made anymore.

    I use A7 mini RDAs on Caravela mechanical mods using 1.8 ohm coils wrapped around 4 strands of 0.8mm silica string.
     
  18. P3ch3

    P3ch3 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 31, 2019
    Old skull, die hard!
    i was using high ohms on mechs, then started using single coils, tricore wire on single coil RTA with a mech... so tasty, 0.35ohms!
     
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