Flavor mixing

[Okierider]

Hi fellow vapors. I have been making my own juice with concentrates from Capella's for ~year. I recently bought some flavors:buttered popcorn, caramel, blueberry, blueberry cotton candy, and rainbow candy, from Flavor West. The tastes are all bad. I'm not saying that I just don't like them but that they taste like chemicals. I had others try them and they actually started spitting and drinking their sodas to get rid of the awful taste. After running out of my Capella flavors I decided to try to vape the caramel because it was the least disgusting flavor that I had. I usually have about 18-25 % flavor in my juice and within ~ 8 hrs my brand new coils were so gunked up that I had to replace them and buy retail juice.
Is there something I can do to save these or are they just a lesson learned?

 

[suprtrkr]

I have no experience in the matter, or any idea how to "save" a flavor. I can say I buy my flavors from Flavor Apprentice.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

I'm not an expert on DIY, but I think that I read that flavors may only last a year or two even if properly maintained in a cool dark location, like a pantry. Freezing the flavors is not suggested as well.

 

[Rixsta]

Hi fellow vapors. I have been making my own juice with concentrates from Capella's for ~year. I recently bought some flavors:buttered popcorn, caramel, blueberry, blueberry cotton candy, and rainbow candy, from Flavor West. The tastes are all bad. I'm not saying that I just don't like them but that they taste like chemicals. I had others try them and they actually started spitting and drinking their sodas to get rid of the awful taste. After running out of my Capella flavors I decided to try to vape the caramel because it was the least disgusting flavor that I had. I usually have about 18-25 % flavor in my juice and within ~ 8 hrs my brand new coils were so gunked up that I had to replace them and buy retail juice.
Is there something I can do to save these or are they just a lesson learned?

Flavor west tend to be stronger than Capella, you maybe mixing them at a too high percentage, try going down to 10% and see if that helps. In saying that, those flavors could do with smoothing over a bit, maybe add some cream, or glazed doughnut or some Capella custard V1, it's surprising what a bit of Sweet Cream can do for example..
DIY is just seeing what works, make small 10ml batches and take it from there.

 

[Okierider]

Thanks Rixsta, I'll try that.

 

[xyanide]

Whatever the previous poster said. I'd like to add that some flavors may be more 'aggressive' than others. For example last week I had a fruit flavor in my tank and halfway through it, I started refilling with tobacco flavor. I noticed the flavor was toned down, but it the tobacco was almost not there. I refilled again when that refill became 3/4 empty, and the fruit flavor still persisted strong enough. Sometimes you just need a tiny amount of flavoring. Google around for DIY vape recipe websites because I know they're out there.

 

[mcclintock]

Flavor West is among the more dilute brands, but I still would never exceed 10% with anything I've tried. Try 5% to start with most flavorings, except super concentrated ones <2% (lowest I've used was .03%, 0.15 drops per 10 mL).

Too much flavoring rarely tastes like too much good flavor, it tastes BAD.

 

[retired1]

Moved to DIY E-Liquid

 

[Jdurand]

I agree, even with Capellas 18 to 25% flavoring is kind of high and a recipe for coil gunking. Try cutting the percentages by at least half.

 

[Completely Average]

Capella is weak flavoring. For most other flavors you can cut the percentage of flavoring in half or less and still get the same result. That's the main reason I no longer use Capella, too expensive when you make 250ml batches like I do. Any flavoring that requires me to dump a whole 30ml bottle into a 250ml batch is a watered down waste of money as far as I'm concerned.

With FlavourArt I rarely go over 5% of any given flavor and many I use in lower amounts than that. I never exceed 10% with TFA. I haven't tried Flavor West yet, but if they're like most everyone else 5-10% should be plenty.

25% flavoring is ridiculous.

 

[Completely Average]

Whatever the previous poster said. I'd like to add that some flavors may be more 'aggressive' than others. For example last week I had a fruit flavor in my tank and halfway through it, I started refilling with tobacco flavor. I noticed the flavor was toned down, but it the tobacco was almost not there. I refilled again when that refill became 3/4 empty, and the fruit flavor still persisted strong enough. Sometimes you just need a tiny amount of flavoring. Google around for DIY vape recipe websites because I know they're out there.

FlavourArt Black Cherry is the strongest flavoring I've ever encountered. It tastes fantastic, the closest I've found to real, natural black cherry, but it is STRONG. At 2% it totally dominates every other flavor I've mixed it with. After a bit of trial and error I never use more than 0.5% of it in any mix, and have dropped to 0.3% in some blends. Even at that amount I have no trouble tasting it.

 

[BrotherBob]

Is there something I can do to save these

Yes. All the flavors can be mixed and should be somewhat acceptable with other flavors. If you mixed the FW as single or standalone, I can understand your problem. I have found that 3 or 4 flavors out of a hundred are acceptable as single/standalones regardless of the blender.
Regarding FW Bluberry, some folks like it and some hate it as a single/standalone. Your other flavors listed, may be acceptable as mixers (percentage strength must be predetermined) only.