Kinda of a sideways topic, but considering that Bad had once declared that he'll get rid of stuffed cartos if it's the last thing he does, I thought it was just a tad appropriate.
I've only used your run-of-the-mill Boges a few times, and all those have been with "naturally macerated" tobacco flavors - only because those seem to leach stuff from plastic. I pretty much re-started my vaping journey with Clearos - got fascinated by the GV site.
As we all know, strong tobacco flavor hides a multitude of sins. Today I tried Kona Coffee Milkshake (this juice has an almost cult-like following) in a Boge. Reason being that I can't ever seem to get full flavor out of it, so I figured what the heck, I'll try it, people swear they get stronger taste out of them than with clearos... OH, YUCK!!!
If there are Boge-folk out there, I totally apologize - this is just the opinion of my personal taste-buds. Really, no offense.
But, OMG. All I could taste was the filler. And it was *much* harsher than any clearo I've ever used. BTW, I was very careful about filling the Boge, syringe method, shook it, let it sit for several hours, etc - in other words, what I was tasting was *not* a "burnt" Boge but a Boge in its natural state...
Harsher. *Not* tastier. In other words, the overall flavor was stronger, yes, but it was the flavor of the juice mixed up about half and half with the "flavor" of the filler. I had to drink two glasses of Coke (universal cleaner) to get the taste out of my mouth - and it's still hanging around.
So now I'm thinking that those folks who state that for them the flavor of all clearos is "muted", are actually missing that part of the flavor that is the filler, and the harshness that goes with it.
But, wait, there is more. (Isn't there always?)
Flavor, just like odor, just like music for that matter, has a spectrum - from higher/sharper notes to lower/rounder notes. For instance, a lemon has a high/sharp flavor, while a good quality chocolate has a deep/round flavor.
A good e-juice flavor, just like a good perfume, will have at least three "levels": a top note, a middle note, and a deep note. It's a "chord" of flavor. For instance, orange (high), strawberry (middle) and chocolate (low) taste great separately, but if you put them together in the right proportion - wow! Ditto for lemon, peach and tea. Etc.
So what am I getting at?
It seems to me that, just like with sound, higher notes in flavor seem "louder". More noticeable. And from what I'm tasting here, in a Boge one tastes the high note and, maybe, the middle note - but the low note is eaten up but the filler taste, which is a low note in and of itself, but much stronger than any natural low note in the juice. The result is a stronger, harsher taste - but it's a distorted taste.
But even the clearos, depending on the physical configuration, will emphasize different aspects of the spectrum. Which brings me to the last point. It's been amazing me, for quite some time, that some folks complain about the flavor of the Stardusts being "muted". It occurred to me, finally, that what is happening is that the Stardust does a truly fantastic job of presenting the entire spectrum of the flavor evenly. Meaning that one tastes *all* the nuances of the juice, from top to bottom (which is why I love it so much) - but because of this, those who are used to the predominance of the higher notes, which are naturally stronger, will find the flavor more "spread out".
How you like it is, of course, the matter of personal preference. Some tune their music equalizer to boost highs, some - lows, and some normalize the volume so that the "loudness" is spread out evenly.
Point is, it's not that the flavor is "muted", necessarily, in the sense that there is less flavor - it's that the flavor is accented differently.
Not to say that there are no cartos that genuinely lessen the flavor intensity, but I really don't think that's the case with the Stardust. Or with clearos in general as compared to the Boges.
Just an observation... And, btw, all joking about aesthetics aside, that's the main reason why I hope the Stardust tube shape doesn't change - the shape *greatly* influences the flavor profile.
Anyway, just saying... vaping my KCM in a reg. Stardust at 3.9 V. I swear, this juice is over-rated... But, maybe, I just don't dig coffee juices, much as I like real coffee...
I've only used your run-of-the-mill Boges a few times, and all those have been with "naturally macerated" tobacco flavors - only because those seem to leach stuff from plastic. I pretty much re-started my vaping journey with Clearos - got fascinated by the GV site.
As we all know, strong tobacco flavor hides a multitude of sins. Today I tried Kona Coffee Milkshake (this juice has an almost cult-like following) in a Boge. Reason being that I can't ever seem to get full flavor out of it, so I figured what the heck, I'll try it, people swear they get stronger taste out of them than with clearos... OH, YUCK!!!
If there are Boge-folk out there, I totally apologize - this is just the opinion of my personal taste-buds. Really, no offense.
But, OMG. All I could taste was the filler. And it was *much* harsher than any clearo I've ever used. BTW, I was very careful about filling the Boge, syringe method, shook it, let it sit for several hours, etc - in other words, what I was tasting was *not* a "burnt" Boge but a Boge in its natural state...
Harsher. *Not* tastier. In other words, the overall flavor was stronger, yes, but it was the flavor of the juice mixed up about half and half with the "flavor" of the filler. I had to drink two glasses of Coke (universal cleaner
) to get the taste out of my mouth - and it's still hanging around.So now I'm thinking that those folks who state that for them the flavor of all clearos is "muted", are actually missing that part of the flavor that is the filler, and the harshness that goes with it.
But, wait, there is more. (Isn't there always?)
Flavor, just like odor, just like music for that matter, has a spectrum - from higher/sharper notes to lower/rounder notes. For instance, a lemon has a high/sharp flavor, while a good quality chocolate has a deep/round flavor.
A good e-juice flavor, just like a good perfume, will have at least three "levels": a top note, a middle note, and a deep note. It's a "chord" of flavor. For instance, orange (high), strawberry (middle) and chocolate (low) taste great separately, but if you put them together in the right proportion - wow! Ditto for lemon, peach and tea. Etc.
So what am I getting at?
It seems to me that, just like with sound, higher notes in flavor seem "louder". More noticeable. And from what I'm tasting here, in a Boge one tastes the high note and, maybe, the middle note - but the low note is eaten up but the filler taste, which is a low note in and of itself, but much stronger than any natural low note in the juice. The result is a stronger, harsher taste - but it's a distorted taste.
But even the clearos, depending on the physical configuration, will emphasize different aspects of the spectrum. Which brings me to the last point. It's been amazing me, for quite some time, that some folks complain about the flavor of the Stardusts being "muted". It occurred to me, finally, that what is happening is that the Stardust does a truly fantastic job of presenting the entire spectrum of the flavor evenly. Meaning that one tastes *all* the nuances of the juice, from top to bottom (which is why I love it so much) - but because of this, those who are used to the predominance of the higher notes, which are naturally stronger, will find the flavor more "spread out".
How you like it is, of course, the matter of personal preference. Some tune their music equalizer to boost highs, some - lows, and some normalize the volume so that the "loudness" is spread out evenly.
Point is, it's not that the flavor is "muted", necessarily, in the sense that there is less flavor - it's that the flavor is accented differently.
Not to say that there are no cartos that genuinely lessen the flavor intensity, but I really don't think that's the case with the Stardust. Or with clearos in general as compared to the Boges.
Just an observation... And, btw, all joking about aesthetics aside, that's the main reason why I hope the Stardust tube shape doesn't change - the shape *greatly* influences the flavor profile.
Anyway, just saying... vaping my KCM in a reg. Stardust at 3.9 V. I swear, this juice is over-rated... But, maybe, I just don't dig coffee juices, much as I like real coffee...
