Flavor your carts, not your juice?

[geeker]

Has anyone ever tried something like this? I was thinking of making a plug to stuff inside the mouthpiece, maybe something like part of an analog filter. Then drop a couple-three drops of Lorann's flavoring onto this plug and drip vaping ready-bought juice (either unflavored or a complementary flavor). Would this give the flavor of the Lorann's without having to mix juice? Bought some shisha that came with flavored tips, and they inspired me to find a way to flavor the carts instead of the juice.

 

[Tecratk]

I like where your mind is going with this. I would definitely like to hear how this goes if you experiment further.

 

[solonguniverse]

I guess I just don't understand how this is any less of a hassle. It seems like it would just be more of a mess.

 

[Fredrick]

I guess I just don't understand how this is any less of a hassle. It seems like it would just be more of a mess.

I believe what they are getting at is not heating up the flavorings with the atomizer, not so much the amount of work aspect.

I can kind of see what they are saying. Flavors change with temperature, and this may be why the desired flavor is not as easy to find through flavorings. As an example, a cold Vichyssoise will need a very different amount of seasoning (salt & pepper), than a hot Potato and Leek Soup, just to have a similar flavor profile on the palate. Salty is one flavor that makes this most apparent, but it holds true with all flavors. I have been thinking about this lately in relation to flavorings for niquid, as most are designed for candy, and not for hot food products. There is heat in the candy making process, but that is not as important as the tempature the item is being consumed.

Of course I could be totally off base here.

 

[NaviRahu]

This kinda reminds me of the 'candy' cigs (sugary flavors) and the Djarum Black cloves. The smoke itself had flavor, but the sweet actually came from a coating on the .... of the cig. I've also heard of another analog (that I can't remember for the life of me) that had a menthol capsule in the filter, which you broke just before you use the cig. You had a stronger menthol flavor that seemed separate from the tobacco, and hit differently. In particular, I think we'd be looking at something similar here. Rather than vaping the flavor, 'filtering' the created vapor through the flavoring, if that makes any sense.

 

[Applejackson]

I'd say you'd get more of an aroma, without the flavor, because it's the vaporized droplets condensing on your tongue that give the flavor. Anything absorbent you put in the mouthpiece will actually absorb all of the flavor by collecting it on the way through. I know this because I've tried putting different materials in the mouthpiece in order to help catch overflowing juice from getting through. It completely removed all of the flavor from the vapor. If you had some flavoring on the material, you'd get the smell, but not the actual flavor I imagine, and the flavor from your liquid would be gone too. You can try it, just don't get your hopes up. If you find something that works, let us know.

 

[Applejackson]

This kinda reminds me of the 'candy' cigs (sugary flavors) and the Djarum Black cloves. The smoke itself had flavor, but the sweet actually came from a coating on the .... of the cig. I've also heard of another analog (that I can't remember for the life of me) that had a menthol capsule in the filter, which you broke just before you use the cig. You had a stronger menthol flavor that seemed separate from the tobacco, and hit differently. In particular, I think we'd be looking at something similar here. Rather than vaping the flavor, 'filtering' the created vapor through the flavoring, if that makes any sense.

Those are Camel Crush. I smoked them for a while toward the end of my smoking days when I was getting tired of the taste. They're pretty cool since you could smoke them regular flavor, menthol, or halfway through crush the capsule. It helped with the monotony of smoking.

 

[solonguniverse]

I suppose it would also give the benefit of not carrying around 10 bottles of juice and 10 devoted cartridges too. You could simply carry your cartridges and 1 bottle of unflavored juice. It makes sense that some flavor is lost in the heating process too. People use powerful flavorings at a very high concentration to get the flavors they want right now. Thinking about it...this really isn't a bad idea at all.

 

[stevo_tdo]

Those are Camel Crush. I smoked them for a while toward the end of my smoking days when I was getting tired of the taste. They're pretty cool since you could smoke them regular flavor, menthol, or halfway through crush the capsule. It helped with the monotony of smoking.

Same here, the camel crush was my last cig of choice before quitting. I'd smoke all the way down to the last drag and then crush the filter and get one last super hit to finish me off. It was sort of ingenius.

 

[Scottes]

That is one way to use oil-based flavorings which can destroy atomizers. Simply "paint" a little bit of the flavoring on the inside of the cart. You'll inhale the fumes, get the smell and taste, but the flavoring won't ever touch the atomizer. I saw one post where someone was doing this with clove oil.

 

[vapn]

People the vapor does NOT go through the filler material.. It goes around it.

 

[geeker]

It will go through the filler unless you completely block all airflow.
My intent is to enjoy more flavor without mixing/diluting liquid, while being able to change flavors without carryover.
Still pondering this; will let you know how it goes.

 

[geeker]

I cut a small piece of PTB to use as a flavor-holder. About 1x2 cm wadded up and stuffed high enough into the cart so that the atomizer doesn't touch it.

All day I vaped my 5v Prodigy/901. I loaded the flavor plug with 3 drops of Lorann's marshmallow and dripped RY4 into the atty. It was mighty tasty, until the RY4 vaped out and I got that low juice burned taste we all experience from time to time.. I just dripped more juice and the whole time I had a nice marshmallow flavor that I never had to replenish. Just dripped as usual.

I have switched to a 510 with Lorann's banana cream. Still vaping the RY4. Tastes great, going on an hour since I made the flavored cart.

I thought both of these Lorann flavors would go well to boost the RY4, which I have in abundance, but find weak in a high voltage device or the 510. Tomorrow I'll try some fruit flavored Lorann's (like blackberry) with vanilla or unflavored juice.

So far I'm pleased with the results.

 

[hxj]

That is one way to use oil-based flavorings which can destroy atomizers. Simply "paint" a little bit of the flavoring on the inside of the cart. You'll inhale the fumes, get the smell and taste, but the flavoring won't ever touch the atomizer. I saw one post where someone was doing this with clove oil.

Hey, I did this myself! I wasn't very pleased with the result, not because it didn't work, but just because the flavor combo didn't do it for me.

Interestingly, I had to take that cart out of the rotation because it just won't give up the clove smell-- and even the atomizer I used still has a lingering clove undertone, which I don't fully understand. I suppose the clove scent was so strong it leached its way into the atomizer wick while everything was sitting idle.

 

[kristin]

People the vapor does NOT go through the filler material.. It goes around it.

I don't get this comment? The vapor must go through the filler to reach the little hole in the mouthpiece we draw on?? How would it go "around" the filler, when the filler fills the whole cartridge?

Edited: Nevermind, Geeker, I just reread the post better! lol

 

[kristin]

I wonder if the brass screen mod would help with this. Empty cart (I use a 510) add a bit of filler with the Lorann flavor, slide the screen in after it, then add more filler and add the flavorless e-liquid. Would you get a mouthful of the Lorann's then?

This does have possibilities.

I'm trying to figure out a way to lable attys & carts for what flavor I have in them. I have 3 attys right now, all attached to carts with different flavors. I have to smell them to figure out which is which. Easy to distinguish peach from mint chocolate chip, but harder between chocolate and coffee, you know?

 

[Kurt]

I wonder if the brass screen mod would help with this. Empty cart (I use a 510) add a bit of filler with the Lorann flavor, slide the screen in after it, then add more filler and add the flavorless e-liquid. Would you get a mouthful of the Lorann's then?

This does have possibilities.

I'm trying to figure out a way to lable attys & carts for what flavor I have in them. I have 3 attys right now, all attached to carts with different flavors. I have to smell them to figure out which is which. Easy to distinguish peach from mint chocolate chip, but harder between chocolate and coffee, you know?

Hi Kristin,
I sometimes use a fine sharpie permanent marker to put a letter or two on the little rubber storage cap of the cart for my 510. Then I put a number for the nic strength on the side of the cap. For example, if I want to label a cart as Carmel Apple 18 mg, I put CA on the top of the cap and 18 on the side. Works ok, and you can erase the label with your fingernail if yyou reuse carts for other flavors.

Still I do wish there was something a little better. What about a plastic vial that is just big enough to hold one cart. The vial could be labeled with a sticker, and it would eliminate leakage if you are carrying carts around with you.

Maybe a really tiny baggy that one could write on with perm marker.

Kurt

 

[vapn]

Take a close look at the cart... There is a place for air to go around the filler material. If there were not some way to isolate the two you would just be sucking the juice into your mouth. On a 510 cart they are two very small slots on the sides. On the 901 you can see it more plainly. The vapor does NOT flow threw the filler material folks...

 

[hxj]

Hi Kristin,
I sometimes use a fine sharpie permanent marker to put a letter or two on the little rubber storage cap of the cart for my 510. Then I put a number for the nic strength on the side of the cap. For example, if I want to label a cart as Carmel Apple 18 mg, I put CA on the top of the cap and 18 on the side. Works ok, and you can erase the label with your fingernail if yyou reuse carts for other flavors.

Still I do wish there was something a little better. What about a plastic vial that is just big enough to hold one cart. The vial could be labeled with a sticker, and it would eliminate leakage if you are carrying carts around with you.

Maybe a really tiny baggy that one could write on with perm marker.

Kurt

I've taken to labeling carts with one of these:

Brother PT-2700 Desktop Labeling System

The labels are available in several printing and background colors (I use white text on black labels for my black carts), including clear labels, and they're very water-resistant-- I wash carts all the time and still rarely have to replace labels. You can type labels on the unit itself, or compose them on your computer and print to it via USB, which gives you lots more flexibility in terms of positioning, font, etc.

I certainly wouldn't get one just for labeling carts, but it's been really handy for labeling just about everything.

 

[geeker]

Take a close look at the cart... There is a place for air to go around the filler material. If there were not some way to isolate the two you would just be sucking the juice into your mouth. On a 510 cart they are two very small slots on the sides. On the 901 you can see it more plainly. The vapor does NOT flow threw the filler material folks...

I'm no aerodynamics physicist, Vap, but it's working so far for me.